Chart Listings: US Airplay Discussion Thread - Page 2053

LostInStereo100

Phew, yesterday's 3.3 million update was just a fluke day, Earned It back over 4 million today with almost 4.2 million update

Grim

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Originally posted by Mediabase

This is it so far today on POP.

It is doing well on Urban though.

99% of the stations that played it every hour yesterday due do the deal dropped it today.

Forget huge radio hits and no1s without Universal/Island Def Jam. Rocnation is not a propel label.

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This is so stupid. Obviously pop isn't going to be interested in playing BBHMM. Everyone with half a brain has said this his a sure fire urban/rhythmic #1, but not pop.

Try waiting until she releases a decent pop song until you make claims like this.

alexanderao

All Stations + Recurrents

Pop
2 2 MAROON 5 Sugar 19871 19921 829 114.373
+50 Spins (+0.25%)
-201 Bullet
+1.208 Audience

Come through!

Hopefully #1 within 3-4 days.

rihannabiggestfan

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Originally posted by LostInStereo100

Phew, yesterday's 3.3 million update was just a fluke day, Earned It back over 4 million today with almost 4.2 million update

Rafael

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Originally posted by jason_z89

Pretty much all pop stations DROPPED the new Rihanna today. Very few spins. They were forced to play it yesterday due to the radio deal.

So much for the Urban queen who wanted to force her single down on TOP 40's throat

Rafael

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Originally posted by soramaro

I don't think it's surprising or shocking that BBHMM is getting dropped on Pop. Actually, I was expecting it. The song is not CHR/Pop friendly at all, even if it is Rihanna.

I remember Adele's Skyfall, which came when she was at her peak on Pop, also having a deal on its first day and only peaking at #37 or #38 on Pop.

I think a Pop single is coming soon, anyway.

Then why have a Top 40 deal then? It makes you seem desperate...

brianc33616

I am not trying to sound like an arrogant a--hole, but I tried to tell so many people in that thread last night BBHMM was far from a sure thing on Pop, and it wasn't until the end I finally found some others who said I was right, and that Rihanna would need to release another song for Top 40, Hot AC, and AC. Like with her "Stay" era she'll probably wind up with both the Urban and the Pop crossovers on Rhythmic.

"Stay" could've been a hit at Urban, and the song probably would've hit #1 on the Hot 100 had her label worked it there. But ehe already had "Pour It Up" and "Love Song" going at Urban though (which had some Rhythmic play). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "Stay" just about the only song ever to reach the Top 3 at Top 40, Hot AC, AC, and Rhythmic?

alexanderao

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Originally posted by brianc33616

I am not trying to sound lie an arrogant a--hole, but I tried to tell so many people in that thread last night BBHMM was far from a sure thing on Pop, and it wasn't until the end I finally found some others who said I was right, and that Rihanna would need to release another song for Top 40, Hot AC, and AC. Like with her "Stay" era she'll probably wind up with both the Urban and the Pop crossovers on Rhythmic.

"Stay" could've been a hit at Urban, and the song probably would've hit #1 on the Hot 100 had her label worked it there. But ehe already had "Pour It Up" and "Love Song" going at Urban though (which had some Rhythmic play). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "Stay" just about the only song ever to reach the Top 3 at Top 40, Hot AC, AC, and Rhythmic?

Songs I found that went T3 on pop, HAC, AC, & rhythmic

brianc33616

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Originally posted by alexanderao

Songs I found that went T3 on pop, HAC, AC, & rhythmic

I knew charting that high at all four genres of the Pop Quadrant, which can diverge quite a bit, had to be a rarity. Thanks for the information.

umich

Nico & Vinz - Am I Wrong

#1 Pop
#1 HAC
#1 Rhythmic
#1 AC

KINGS

brianc33616

That's why I proposed a Pop Genre Chart a while back. Maybe a Pop Airplay Chart, combining all four formats of the Pop Quadrant -- Top 40, Hot AC, AC, and Rhythmic -- (impressions based with that many formats) would at least be workable.

highwind44029

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Originally posted by alexanderao

Songs I found that went T3 on pop, HAC, AC, & rhythmic

Just The Way You Are
#1 Pop
#2 Rhythmic
#1 HAC
#1 AC

One Sweet Day
#1 Pop
#1 Rhythmic
#1 HAC (first #1 of the Billboard published chart equivalent)
#1 AC

Always Be My Baby
#3 Pop
#1 Rhythmic
#2 HAC
#2 AC

I'll probably look for some more and then thread it.

Tsuko

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Originally posted by brianc33616

I am not trying to sound like an arrogant a--hole, but I tried to tell so many people in that thread last night BBHMM was far from a sure thing on Pop, and it wasn't until the end I finally found some others who said I was right, and that Rihanna would need to release another song for Top 40, Hot AC, and AC. Like with her "Stay" era she'll probably wind up with both the Urban and the Pop crossovers on Rhythmic.

"Stay" could've been a hit at Urban, and the song probably would've hit #1 on the Hot 100 had her label worked it there. But ehe already had "Pour It Up" and "Love Song" going at Urban though (which had some Rhythmic play). Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "Stay" just about the only song ever to reach the Top 3 at Top 40, Hot AC, AC, and Rhythmic?

Rihanna does not need to release another song to HAC and AC. Her entire career she hasn't focused on those formats, so why all of a sudden does she need to? If she releases a single which can be played there, then great! If it doesn't then it's no big deal. The same applies with urban radio, Rihanna's singles don't always get played there. In her 10 year career, she's released dual singles only twice. TWICE. That's it. California King Bed/Man Down and Stay/Pour It Up. It's not a common thing for Rihanna to do, and I'm not saying she'll never do it again, but it's rare for her.

If Rihanna has to spend the rest of her career constantly having a single out on HAC and AC then she's going to turn into another version of Kelly Clarkson or Pink, which is not who she is, and I don't think that's what her fans who've been following her for years want.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm not a HAC/AC fan, it's just not logical for Rihanna to always have two singles out in my opinion. When FourFiveSeconds came out, it wasn't the kind of song I wanted from Rihanna, but instead of begging her to release a separate single for rhythmic and urban, I supported those songs being sent to those formats. Whilst FFS didn't do well on urban, I'm glad they sent that and non a proper urban song, as the little success it did get on urban helped FourFiveSeconds be more successful, and that's the same reason why I want BBHMM to continue on pop. It doesn't matter if it only peaks at #35 on pop or whatever, it's better than having a dual release. If 2 On by Tinashe can get #20 on pop Mediabase I think this can get top 40 at least.

Lose My Breath

POP

0 45 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 847 0 847 8.953
= pos
+51 spins
+0.342

Urban

0 39 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 516 0 516 5.797
DEBUT

Tsuko

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Originally posted by Lose My Breath

POP

0 45 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 847 0 847 8.953
= pos
+51 spins
+0.342

Urban

0 39 RIHANNA Bitch Better Have My Money 516 0 516 5.797
DEBUT

By my calculations, on pop BBHMM lost 94% of its spins from the radio deal.

If it continues to get about 50 spins on pop a day it should be at about 350 spins in the first week after the rolling effect.

Sinister

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Originally posted by Tsuko

Rihanna does not need to release another song to HAC and AC. Her entire career she hasn't focused on those formats, so why all of a sudden does she need to? If she releases a single which can be played there, then great! If it doesn't then it's no big deal. The same applies with urban radio, Rihanna's singles don't always get played there. In her 10 year career, she's released dual singles only twice. TWICE. That's it. California King Bed/Man Down and Stay/Pour It Up. It's not a common thing for Rihanna to do, and I'm not saying she'll never do it again, but it's rare for her.

If Rihanna has to spend the rest of her career constantly having a single out on HAC and AC then she's going to turn into another version of Kelly Clarkson or Pink, which is not who she is, and I don't think that's what her fans who've been following her for years want.

And I'm not just saying this because I'm not a HAC/AC fan, it's just not logical for Rihanna to always have two singles out in my opinion. When FourFiveSeconds came out, it wasn't the kind of song I wanted from Rihanna, but instead of begging her to release a separate single for rhythmic and urban, I supported those songs being sent to those formats. Whilst FFS didn't do well on urban, I'm glad they sent that and non a proper urban song, as the little success it did get on urban helped FourFiveSeconds be more successful, and that's the same reason why I want BBHMM to continue on pop. It doesn't matter if it only peaks at #35 on pop or whatever, it's better than having a dual release. If 2 On by Tinashe can get #20 on pop Mediabase I think this can get top 40 at least.

2 On is much easier to accept on pop
BBHMM not so much

Rihanna is a pop staple...but i'd be surprised if it did make it top 20

Rihbeyga

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Originally posted by Rafael

Then why have a Top 40 deal then? It makes you seem desperate...

Shame

Pop pop123

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Originally posted by jason_z89

Scooter is very good.

Pop pop123

Anyways, I thought you can only get one radio deal per era..how can rihanna get two?

umich

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Originally posted by Pop pop123

Anyways, I thought you can only get one radio deal per era..how can rihanna get two?

That's not true.