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Originally posted by slw84
backpedalling now I see.
I always agreed with the idea that success doesn't equal iconic which is why I never viewed I I I wanna go o o as iconic.
My list of her iconic hits are from all factors combined (success/influence/impact) always has been.
Womanizer did smash and it is iconic. Just because Work btch underperformed and is iconic doesn't mean that you should shade her songs that are iconic and just happened to be successful.
But I'm glad you are backing away as you know your argument is empty. Still haven't addressed our questions because you have no point.
That's fine.
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im not the one whos backpedalling mess..
provide me with evidence that womanizer is iconic
im waiting 
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Originally posted by slw84
I'm sticking with barely iconic because i think enough people reference it and know it enough but I see your point.
I mean when you add up success/impact and influence
It's clear
BOMT
Oops
Slave
Toxic
GM
WB
I feel as though Lucky, stronger crazy and MATM are more cult classics and BOMT OOPS Slave Toxic, GM, POM, WOmanizer, Circus are strong iconic hits
Everytime and WB are barely iconic but still fit the bill
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there u have it
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
im not the one whos backpedalling mess..
provide me with evidence that womanizer is iconic
im waiting 
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On January 13, 2009, English singer Ana Silvera covered the song during one of her London concerts.[73] On April 6, 2009, Scottish band Franz Ferdinand also covered the song at Radio 1's Live Lounge. Lead singer Alex Kapranos claimed "It's been the best song out in the last few months".[74] It was also covered regularly by them during their 2009 American spring tour.[75] The song was performed live by UK girl group Girls Aloud during their Out of Control Tour, starting April 24, 2009.[76] Their version was released on their 2009 live album Out of Control: Live from the O2.[77] "Womanizer" was also covered by Fall Out Boy, among others.[67] "Weird Al" Yankovic also covered this song for part of the polka medley off his 2011 album Alpocalypse. In the 2012 Glee episode "Britney 2.0", actors Melissa Benoist, Alex Newell and Jenna Ushkowitz performed a cover of the song.[78]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygr3x38Hx6A
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
Barely. 
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like slave was barely a hit u mean ? 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
if wb isnt iconic then surely womanizer is not
what evidence u want? sales? chart runs? u know them already i dont have to post them
rational people dont care about hits or not... they know slave cuz its one of brits signature songs and its iconic...they dont care about sales or airplay or anything...they dont know brit was radio ban during that era they dont know it didnt get a physicla release..
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Nope. I want you to support your claims with something more than attention seeking and unsupported statements.
You just don't want to post the reality that would go against your claims. It's ok.
People knowing her stats and backstory of being banned on radio aren't irrational...they just know what they are talking/writing about regarding their fave.
You essentially just threw yourself under the bus with that weak comeback.
Coddie you try so hard and still have to backpedal and deflect not realizing you are including yourself.
Poor Coddie...I like debating but I need someone with strong POVs to go against.
I don't want to easily best you in your unsupported claims 
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
On January 13, 2009, English singer Ana Silvera covered the song during one of her London concerts.[73] On April 6, 2009, Scottish band Franz Ferdinand also covered the song at Radio 1's Live Lounge. Lead singer Alex Kapranos claimed "It's been the best song out in the last few months".[74] It was also covered regularly by them during their 2009 American spring tour.[75] The song was performed live by UK girl group Girls Aloud during their Out of Control Tour, starting April 24, 2009.[76] Their version was released on their 2009 live album Out of Control: Live from the O2.[77] "Womanizer" was also covered by Fall Out Boy, among others.[67] "Weird Al" Yankovic also covered this song for part of the polka medley off his 2011 album Alpocalypse. In the 2012 Glee episode "Britney 2.0", actors Melissa Benoist, Alex Newell and Jenna Ushkowitz performed a cover of the song.[78]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygr3x38Hx6A
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On October 14, 2013, Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi and her dance partner Sasha Farber performed "Work Bitch" on the season seventeen of Dancing with the Stars. Polizzi explained that the performance was "a celebration of me being a mother, a woman, a new person, and working seven days a week to provide a great life for my family."[53] A week later, Polizzi and Farber also performed the track on The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[54] The song was parodied on the American animated series, South Park. Seen in the episode, "The Hobbit", the song was used during a gym montage where most of the 4th grade girls and Timmy were "working out" by manipulating photos of themselves in Photoshop and using Instagram filters.[55] "Work Bitch" was also featured on TV series New Girl, in the episode "Menus", during a scene where Coach (Damon Wayans, Jr.) tries to get Nick (Jake Johnson) in shape
better than some covers 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
im not the one whos backpedalling mess..
provide me with evidence that womanizer is iconic
im waiting 
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You just backpedalled talking about maybe....blah blah blah after making strong claims against slave for you.
You refuse to post evidence because you know you don't have them.
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
Barely. 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
there u have it
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I guess those are the ones that are iconic to you...meh.
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
On January 13, 2009, English singer Ana Silvera covered the song during one of her London concerts.[73] On April 6, 2009, Scottish band Franz Ferdinand also covered the song at Radio 1's Live Lounge. Lead singer Alex Kapranos claimed "It's been the best song out in the last few months".[74] It was also covered regularly by them during their 2009 American spring tour.[75] The song was performed live by UK girl group Girls Aloud during their Out of Control Tour, starting April 24, 2009.[76] Their version was released on their 2009 live album Out of Control: Live from the O2.[77] "Womanizer" was also covered by Fall Out Boy, among others.[67] "Weird Al" Yankovic also covered this song for part of the polka medley off his 2011 album Alpocalypse. In the 2012 Glee episode "Britney 2.0", actors Melissa Benoist, Alex Newell and Jenna Ushkowitz performed a cover of the song.[78]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygr3x38Hx6A
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And the think about it...no one even needs to provide that many receipts to make their point against coddie because it's clear he doesn't use sound reasoning. Womanizer has been used not only as covers, a topic for talk shows, used in competitions and always known as her comeback single that smashed and is more remembered than most of the woman anthems of the moment.
that said, he certainly dodges the chance to provide support for his claims.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
like slave was barely a hit u mean ? 
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It was barely a hit in the states but still a hit (top 20 on pop and that's with most stations not playing her and no sales) It was a top 10 WW hit...might have even gone top 5 and that doesn't even include impact and influence.
Just like WB is barely iconic...but still iconic...at least to me. 
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Originally posted by slw84
Nope. I want you to support your claims with something more than attention seeking and unsupported statements.
You just don't want to post the reality that would go against your claims. It's ok.
People knowing her stats and backstory of being banned on radio aren't irrational...they just know what they are talking/writing about regarding their fave.
You essentially just threw yourself under the bus with that weak comeback.
Coddie you try so hard and still have to backpedal and deflect not realizing you are including yourself.
Poor Coddie...I like debating but I need someone with strong POVs to go against.
I don't want to easily best you in your unsupported claims 
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according to one of ur previous posts we dont debating cuz u agree with what i said...
u just cant accept some facts n u find excuses ...
i dont backpedal like u said..my statements r clear... success doesnt equal is something is iconic or not..
ur iconic list songs is attention seeking and the funny thing is that u know it aint even close to the real thing 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
On October 14, 2013, Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi and her dance partner Sasha Farber performed "Work Bitch" on the season seventeen of Dancing with the Stars. Polizzi explained that the performance was "a celebration of me being a mother, a woman, a new person, and working seven days a week to provide a great life for my family."[53] A week later, Polizzi and Farber also performed the track on The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[54] The song was parodied on the American animated series, South Park. Seen in the episode, "The Hobbit", the song was used during a gym montage where most of the 4th grade girls and Timmy were "working out" by manipulating photos of themselves in Photoshop and using Instagram filters.[55] "Work Bitch" was also featured on TV series New Girl, in the episode "Menus", during a scene where Coach (Damon Wayans, Jr.) tries to get Nick (Jake Johnson) in shape
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"Womanizer" has been covered by many artists from a variety of music genres, as well as a great number of amateurs.[66] Clark Collis of Entertainment Weekly explained that "the song has been covered by other artists with an enthusiasm only matched in recent times by musicians’ desire to remake Radiohead’s 'Creep' in their own image".[67] On December 8, 2008, New Zealand singer Ladyhawke performed a cover at BBC Radio 1's Live Lounge.[68] The song was covered by American band The All-American Rejects on the Yahoo! Music Pepsi Smash show in December 2008. It was performed in an acoustic version, in which the band members played percussions with beer bottles. The cover also included an excerpt from The Turtles's "Happy Together".[69] British singer Lily Allen also covered the song, because "simple really, I love Britney and I love the song".[66] Her cover was a stripped down version, that according to Nick Levine of Digital Spy, "might provoke those who reckon it doesn't have much of a chorus to revise their opinion".[70] Allen also performed the song as the encore during her 2009 tour.[71] French singer Sliimy cover was deemed as an "indie makeover".[66] He would later be the opening act of the second Paris date at The Circus Starring Britney Spears.[72]

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Originally posted by Swim
"You better work bitch" IS iconic.
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Thanks to RuPaul.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
according to one of ur previous posts we dont debating cuz u agree with what i said...
u just cant accept some facts n u find excuses ...
i dont backpedal like u said..my statements r clear... success doesnt equal is something is iconic or not..
ur iconic list songs is attention seeking and the funny thing is that u know it aint even close to the real thing 
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The "iconic" list is pretty spot on. How is posting a list attention seeking? What's attention seeking is pretending to love the worst pop album of 2013 and the worst album of Britney's career and saying Slave 4 U was a flop 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
On October 14, 2013, Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi and her dance partner Sasha Farber performed "Work Bitch" on the season seventeen of Dancing with the Stars. Polizzi explained that the performance was "a celebration of me being a mother, a woman, a new person, and working seven days a week to provide a great life for my family."[53] A week later, Polizzi and Farber also performed the track on The Ellen DeGeneres Show.[54] The song was parodied on the American animated series, South Park. Seen in the episode, "The Hobbit", the song was used during a gym montage where most of the 4th grade girls and Timmy were "working out" by manipulating photos of themselves in Photoshop and using Instagram filters.[55] "Work Bitch" was also featured on TV series New Girl, in the episode "Menus", during a scene where Coach (Damon Wayans, Jr.) tries to get Nick (Jake Johnson) in shape
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So you are acknowledging that Womanizer is iconic as you don't have an argument against Luccyyyyys points and offered that WB is as well.
WB and Womanizer are iconic hits...just womanizer was successful and iconic.
Funny because i included both on my list of iconic hits and you won't claim womanizer despite not offering any more arguments to support your claim.
Looks like i bested you again Coddie...modify your list of iconic hits to include Womanizer and you are on your path to recovery.
the first step is to admit that you have a problem identifying Britney's iconic hits.
We'll take 11 more steps to get you right back on track.
We won't give up on you even when you backpedal and give up on yourself.
Army STRONG 
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Originally posted by slw84
You just backpedalled talking about maybe....blah blah blah after making strong claims against slave for you.
You refuse to post evidence because you know you don't have them.
I guess those are the ones that are iconic to you...meh.
And the think about it...no one even needs to provide that many receipts to make their point against coddie because it's clear he doesn't use sound reasoning. Womanizer has been used not only as covers, a topic for talk shows, used in competitions and always known as her comeback single that smashed and is more remembered than most of the woman anthems of the moment.
that said, he certainly dodges the chance to provide support for his claims.
It was barely a hit in the states but still a hit (top 20 on pop and that's with most stations not playing her and no sales) It was a top 10 WW hit...might have even gone top 5 and that doesn't even include impact and influence.
Just like WB is barely iconic...but still iconic...at least to me. 
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i guess those r the ones that are iconic to u
r u describing work b ? u forgot it went top 15 in the usa 
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omg @ Break The Ice getting more recurrent views on VEVO than Perfume 
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Originally posted by slw84
So you are acknowledging that Womanizer is iconic as you don't have an argument against Luccyyyyys points and offered that WB is as well.
WB and Womanizer are iconic hits...just womanizer was successful and iconic.
Funny because i included both on my list of iconic hits and you won't claim womanizer despite not offering any more arguments to support your claim.
Looks like i bested you again Coddie...modify your list of iconic hits to include Womanizer and you are on your path to recovery.
the first step is to admit that you have a problem identifying Britney's iconic hits.
We'll take 11 more steps to get you right back on track.
We won't give up on you even when you backpedal and give up on yourself.
Army STRONG 
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im acknowledging that woman was successful noone can deny that
i have an argument..covers doesnt mean much .a coverage in tv series is more imprortant than covers
u list is not a list..u just peak most of brits singles
the fact that u think u did anything to me it funnier that ur iconic songs list hahaha
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
according to one of ur previous posts we dont debating cuz u agree with what i said...
u just cant accept some facts n u find excuses ...
i dont backpedal like u said..my statements r clear... success doesnt equal is something is iconic or not..
ur iconic list songs is attention seeking and the funny thing is that u know it aint even close to the real thing 
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I actually have facts...and state them you have not. which is why you dodge the questions luccy and i have for you and deflect. Then you PROJECT what you do onto others. The problem is that it's very apparent and most people that are good at doing that are better at covering their tracks.
You went hard against Slave and then BACKPEDALLED a couple pages ago reconsidering your claims with MAYBE as the bridge term.
You do yourself no favors when you don't want to admit this, make strong unsupported comments and then don't want to back up your claims only to ask someone else who has no problem backing up their claims to do so and then you literally project what you do onto others...as if you are fooling anyone.
Coddie go buy 200k copies of Britney Jean so that the era can have a certification to add to her barely iconic song Work btch which rips off Rupaul (the originator of the phrase) but she was a good sport at it doing so
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Thanks to RuPaul.
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Spill it...make coddie do ha homework.
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
The "iconic" list is pretty spot on. How is posting a list attention seeking? What's attention seeking is pretending to love the worst pop album of 2013 and the worst album of Britney's career and saying Slave 4 U was a flop 
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Thanks.
Coddie has no real arguments he just throws things out there for attention and then projects what he does onto others because he doesn't want to deal with it. Essentially the brandi glanville of the base.
In any event, he's made so many claims today that completely remove the shred of credibility that he had as of yesterday.
I just want him to buy more Britney Jean albums so she can have 8 studio album eras of certifications in the US to add to impact and influence. 
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
omg @ Break The Ice getting more recurrent views on VEVO than Perfume 
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break the ice is her most unisex or i have to say manly song... <3
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
i guess those r the ones that are iconic to u
r u describing work b ? u forgot it went top 15 in the usa 
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Not sure of your point...I included Womanizer and WB on my list and WB didn't have a ban and still peaked closely to WB on radio.
I never forgot WB went top 15...you are contradicting yourself again...If you recall I have both WB and Womanizer as iconic...one is just successful and iconic and the other one is an underperformer and barely iconic. Neither are flops...both aren't smashes just one and one is iconic and one is barely iconic...
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
omg @ Break The Ice getting more recurrent views on VEVO than Perfume 
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Ha animated video shot when she was in the hospital getting more interest than a BJ single...I'm shocked.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
im acknowledging that woman was successful noone can deny that
i have an argument..covers doesnt mean much .a coverage in tv series is more imprortant than covers
u list is not a list..u just peak most of brits singles
the fact that u think u did anything to me it funnier that ur iconic songs list hahaha
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Then your response to Luccyyy is null and void if you are going to use southpark.
Coddie, you already backpedal didn't want to post evidence because it would only expose your flawed statement but it's ok.
We are going to work with you on your road to recovery.
Get ready for Pretty girls... 
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Originally posted by easy HME
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Aww. She said she would try and steer her boys away from the entertainment industry if they wanted to be a part of it  bless her.. .
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