um this is a stupid argument because if it has all of the benefits and qualifications it's literally just calling the same thing something different. if it isn't called marriage it will always be looked at as gross and inferior, because not letting them use the word with the connotation it brings just shows a contempt for gay people as if their romance can never be put on the same level as straight people. if reading orwell ever taught me anything it's that language does matter and what you call something can change everything about how people perceive it.
marriage means more than a religious certificate in modern culture, the word "married" carries a huge weight and a relationship is rarely seen as "complete" and significant unless it ultimately ends in marriage. marriage is the legal bonding of people and saying "civil union" is just refusing to let gay people into something that actually does mean something to people. it's not the same and it never will be because the word marriage has had centuries of building up connotations and traditions, all of these things meaning something to people. if you deny gay people that you can't call it equal because it's not.
not only that but words change in meaning all the time, please don't talk about language if you don't know anything about it because the way words are used is ultimately what they do mean in all practical purposes. if everyone started using "marriage" to mean both straight and gay people and the old usage eventually died out then marriage's definition has changed in all purposes that actually matter. this kind of desperation to put tradition over human rights is exactly what bothers me about the republican party
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That doesn't make it okay in the eyes of God though, it's just (sorry) appropriating religious culture.
Human rights are so extra. Freedom of speech is the most annoying thing I have ever heard of.
I agree with they should be given equal rights, but marriage is between a man and a woman. Like, equality doesn't mean you can change the meaning of a word. It's (supposed to be) a religious thing between a guy and a gal which means they can f*** and reproduce, gays can't do that. Like, just give them all the benefits, but don't get married.
like "equal but separate" but this time for the gheys
Oh yeah, WOTN would have been a really nice fourth single. They should release MD2.0 as a part of the FY album, they really amped it up and made it more fresh. I'd re-re-re-purchase it.
yeah i'm not going to create an explosion in this thread so that's all for me but you clearly block out empathy for the sake of religious tradition and that is just not okay with me at all
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Well, see someone say 'f****t' and this site loses their ****, but when people say all 'homophobes' should kill themselves that's fine. I would slay as an authoritarian dictator, tbqh.
yeah i'm not going to create an explosion in this thread so that's all for me but you clearly block out empathy for the sake of religious tradition and that is just not okay with me at all
yeah i'm not going to create an explosion in this thread so that's all for me but you clearly block out empathy for the sake of religious tradition and that is just not okay with me at all
Fair enough. not everyone will agree.
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I'm sorry but I really don't care about the marriage stuff but I hope they get it though.
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yeah, WOTN would have been a really nice fourth single. They should release MD2.0 as a part of the FY album, they really amped it up and made it more fresh. I'd re-re-re-purchase it. 
