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Tournament: Create a Label 7 | Taylor/Zenny at #1
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The unrealism is having them on forty shows a week. That was what I was getting at. But since this is a single they're both FUNDING and PROMOTING, they were going to promote it TOGETHER for it's first week. This has been planned for weeks now so for REALISM. In real life, labels and management PLAN things
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It's fine, I just don't understand why there's an issue when it's a very common occurrence that both people on a song aren't always going to be there to promote it in this industry. It's actually more unrealistic that two independent artists WOULD be able to attend 20 promo events together. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by tigerlily13
The unrealism is having them on forty shows a week. That was what I was getting at. But since this is a single they're both FUNDING and PROMOTING, they were going to promote it TOGETHER for it's first week. This has been planned for weeks now so for REALISM. In real life, labels and management PLAN things
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Performing on TV shows isn't the only option you have for promoting, though, so that argument and idea isn't exactly the strongest.
If you want, you can each write 10 articles describing a performance with both artists, then have 10 articles each with your artist doing individual things that may or may not include performances. That seems like a good approach in my opinion; that way you still have your 20 collaboration performances but still have room for other things.
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Originally posted by Sam
It's fine, I just don't understand why there's an issue when it's a very common occurrence that both people on a song aren't always going to be there to promote it in this industry. It's actually more unrealistic that two independent artists WOULD be able to attend 20 promo events together. Just my opinion.
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I agree with this. Thank you for being helpful here; you're pointing out things that I haven't been the best at properly wording. It's very much appreciated.
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Imagine if I kept Nicki's era going and released Ladies Night as a single.
Azealia and Taylor, some of the biggest competitors in the game.
Ariana, a force almost equal to Azealia and Taylor.
And Beyoncé, which would be ran by iHype, probably the best player.
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Originally posted by Sam
It's fine, I just don't understand why there's an issue when it's a very common occurrence that both people on a song aren't always going to be there to promote it in this industry. It's actually more unrealistic that two independent artists WOULD be able to attend 20 promo events together. Just my opinion.
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You keep bringing up realistic in the industry. How is it realistic 2 artists have a collaboration, but can never actually do the collaboration together or else they're penalized? (Doing the same thing results in it counting as 1 article instead of 2).
I mean I've never heard of a collab that gets penalized when it's actually presented as a collaboration and does better when it's presented solo despite being a collaboration?
But I mean if that makes industry sense to you. 
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I'm going to go do promotion now. I've already gotten some great stuff written up so 
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See, it's not a penalty so much as a lack of a presence of an advantage.
It'd be the same if I wrote 2 articles for every single event that I had in one week. There would be 20 articles, but it's still only 10 events that are done...
You can have both artists appear at one performance, but only have one or the other player write the article. Writing 2 separate articles on the same event makes zero sense because you have the opportunity to do more but you just don't take it. 
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Originally posted by iHype.
You keep bringing up realistic in the industry. How is it realistic 2 artists have a collaboration, but can never actually do the collaboration together or else they're penalized? (Doing the same thing results in it counting as 1 article instead of 2).
I mean I've never heard of a collab that gets penalized when it's actually presented as a collaboration and does better when it's presented solo despite being a collaboration?
But I mean if that makes industry sense to you. 
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Yeah I get what both yourself and tigerlily are saying, but I think it's more to do with how you're both going about what's being asked of you. All that's been said is that you have to do 20 articles each if you want the most chance at doing well, it's no different than an individual person doing 20, just because there are two artists on one song. It wouldn't be fair that way. I personally found your idea of doing the same promo spot from two different points of view kind of cool, but X/O/X/O said that wasn't acceptable so it is what it is.
But also as X/O/X/O said you don't need to make all 40 articles performing at some event. You can do promo without that. You can have some performances together (just get one of you to post it), have some of them separate (like the examples I posted before) and have some where like Justin is being chased by Paparazzi and he throws copies of his new single at them in defence, idk. You two are way more experienced in Create A Label than I am so I'm sure you'll have no trouble thinking up something clever.
tl;dr all you and tigerlily need to do is make 20 articles each, either about your artists being together or not, promoting the song, whether it be a performance, interview, or whatever. It's just for the same song instead of different songs.
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Writing more articles isn't an opportunity. 
But I mean, rules are rules. Work will be done.

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What is this mess I walked into?

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Wait is this another new season?  Mess, did Eglé just give up? He was doing so well.
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Every chance to write an article is an opportunity to boost your sales. See tha POSITIVE.
And I'm sorry to cause a mess with this. It wasn't my intention.

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Eric, from now on I think it's best to privately ASK your questions. Some people here cannot mind their own business or refrain from making caustic remarks.
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Wait is this another new season?  Mess, did Eglé just give up? He was doing so well.
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Why are you always running in when things get messy?
Lemme get a threadban in order.
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Originally posted by X/O/X/O
Why are you always running in when things get messy?
Lemme get a threadban in order.
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What? I'm just innocently asking a question  I saw the title "The Tides of Change Are Here", and then I saw the OP wasn't Eglé anymore so I came in. If it's really that annoying I mean I guess you can threadban me.

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Originally posted by Tymps.
What? I'm just innocently asking a question  I saw the title "The Tides of Change Are Here", and then I saw the OP wasn't Eglé anymore so I came in. If it's really that annoying I mean I guess you can threadban me.

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This isn't the first time, but I won't be a twat about it.
It's still the same season. Egle just decided to step down from hosting to play, and I guess I'm hosting now.
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Azealia Performs on Fashion Rocks!

To promote Metamorph, the lead single off of the album The Dying Stars, as well as the album itself, Azealia performed at the Fashion Rocks! even where she performed Metamorph as well as Fly and Space Oddity to a television audience of millions and a stadium audience of thousands. Azealia's performance at the Fashion Rocks! event was heavily advertised by the public as it is something that is highly important for the advancement and growth in the fashion industry as a whole. Azealia is the headlining main artist of the show and had she not performed, who knows what would've happened to the event. The event helps bring awareness to great clothes and show the world that you need to put away those cargo shorts and that top that says to make a sandwich. Fashion Rocks! helps uglies all over the world learn to do better and Azealia brought that to the forefront even more than before. Along with the commercials advertising Azealia on Fashion Rocks!, Azealia had commercials also air that advertised the target special for Azealia throughout when the event aired on CBS as well as throughout the week. When asked about her appearance and performance on Fashion Rocks!, Azealia said the following "I am happy to be performing at such a fun event and such a great event. It'll be a great and nice way to present to the world music and fashion, two of my favorite things in the world. I know this will be a complete and total success and I believe in my strength and talent to be able to be able to put on a great show the world will enjoy from their living rooms. Buy The Dying Stars by the way." During Azealia's performance at Fashion Rocks!, she started off by performing Metamorph. In this performance, Azealia wore a very complex outfit that showed off her slim body. It was a latex white catsuit with large metal wires extending from the back. Azealia's hair was done in a long braid down her back. The stage had large shiny circular white balls covered in smoke. The dancers had on white masks, bathing suits, and white body paint. Azealia sang Metamorph as the dancers moved around her and danced with Azealia. After singing Metamorph, Azealia went on to sing Fly, the song featuring Childish Gambino. During this song, Childish Gambino came out to perform the song with Azealia. He had on all white as well, latex with white feathers. The entire ensemble from both artists was designed by Alexander McQueen. After Azealia's performance of Fly, wires lifted Azealia's dancers in the air and they disappeared in the blink of an eye. It was now time for Azealia to perform the final song, Space Oddity. During Space Oddity Azealia had on a white gown, taking time to change in between songs as the stage had a light show happening. When Azealia came out to reveal the McQueen gown, the crowd roared in applause. After performed the slower and relaxed Space Oddity, Azealia got a standing ovation. All performances have been uploaded on YouTube. Be sure to buy The Dying Stars today.
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Eric, from now on I think it's best to privately ASK your questions. Some people here cannot mind their own business or refrain from making caustic remarks.
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Sorry for trying to help. You're a player of a game and when fair rules are made it's expected you follow them, not have a whinge. But if you want to get catty with me just for suggesting some options that could help you still promote together but do some other things as well that could actually BOOST your score than it's whatever. No wonder there's a "no drama" rule, clearly it's a legit problem.
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