[Jet]

Originally posted by XLR8

'cause unlike Beyonce they actually have a voice

Screaming for dear life ≠ good vocalist

[XLR8]

Originally posted by Luzianne

Jennifer Hudson and Tamar Braxton's yelling over Beyonce's smooth transitions into higher and lower octaves? Not sure about that, especially when Bey can deliver it while fresh off of vigorous choreography, and during. But then again, most people who do underrated Beyonce's vocals tend to not know her discography very well.

Smooth? More like thin, hollow expelled air that fashions an amazingly common timbre. Her voice (if eligible to be named such) is hardly comparable to a grain of rice And it's not that I'm oblivious to her discography, I'm simply not a fan of ratchet hoodrat Anthems

[Luzianne]

Originally posted by XLR8

Smooth? More like thin, hollow expelled air that fashions an amazingly common timbre. Her voice (if eligible to be named such) is hardly comparable to a grain of rice And it's not that I'm oblivious to her discography, I'm simply not a fan of ratchet hoodrat Anthems

Then you must not have taken interest in most R&B stations over the past few years, since that's what most play, even the Adult R&B stations to a degree. Funny since those are the only stations where you'll find J-Hud or Tamar (put put put it all on me). I don't know how a fraction of Beyonce's discography, the "ratchet hoodrat Anthems" that Tamar sure as heck wants to emulate, is supposed to dispute her vocal capabilities though. But if you don't like those types of songs, you can opt for:

Stay
Brown Eyes
Emotion
Be With You
Gift From Virgo
Speechless
Dangerously in Love
Free
Still In Love (Kissing You)
Until The End of Time (with JT)
Satellites
That's Why You're Beautiful
Smash Into You
Dissappear
Halo
Scared of Lonely
Love on Top
Start Over
I Care
I Miss You
Dreaming
Lay Up Under Me
I Was Here
1 + 1
Superpower
Blue
Heaven

[XLR8]

Tamar ain't my cup of tea. I wasn't defending her. I do however exult Jennifer & Christina over Beyonce because I feel as though their instruments are naturally a lot stronger and more capable. Beyonce's voice is unbelievably one dimensional and limited. Singing well is one thing. Having an amazing voice is another. She barely has one

[Bloo]

Old School:
Whitney Houson
Mariah Carey
Celine Dion
Barbara Streisand
Aretha Franklin

New School:
Kelly Clarkson
Beyoncé
Leona Lewis
P!nk
Jennifer Hudson

* In no particular order.

[XLR8]

Originally posted by Bloo

Old School:
Whitney Houson
Mariah Carey
Celine Dion
Barbara Streisand
Aretha Franklin

New School:
Kelly Clarkson
Beyoncé
Leona Lewis
P!nk
Jennifer Hudson

* In no particular order.

Mhmm, Kelly just happens to coincidentally sit at the top

[King B]

Originally posted by XLR8

Tamar ain't my cup of tea. I wasn't defending her. I do however exult Jennifer & Christina over Beyonce because I feel as though their instruments are naturally a lot stronger and more capable. Beyonce's voice is unbelievably one dimensional and limited. Singing well is one thing. Having an amazing voice is another. She barely has one

What a load of BS. Having an amazing voice or tone is subjective and is not used to grade a vocalist. There's also nothing limited about Bey's voice compared to Xtina and JHud who really lack any musicality and just seem to belt notes (sometimes incorrectly) for the sake of it.

Now, tell me when those singers or any other singers from this generation are using their instrument as well as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw

I'll be waiting.

[Toysoldier99]

Brandy
Christina Aguilera
Whitney Houston
Mariah Carey
Alicia Keys

[nikko0l4l]

Whitney
Mariah
Mariah
Whitney
Beyoncé

[Walley]

1. Freddie Mercury
2. Janis Joplin
3. Otis Redding
4. Prince
5. Karen Carpenter


1. Beyoncé
2. Jill Scott
3. Adele
4. Brittany Howard
5. Miguel

[Walley]

MESS at Beyoncé not having a voice.

If Jennifer Hudson is so much better, then why did she sound like a dying hyena next to Beyoncé during this performance? It was such a breath of fresh air when Beyoncé came out after being put through torture of screaming and howling for 2 minutes. I was so angry when Jenoffkey Hudson came in during Listen and butchered the song.

[XLR8]

Originally posted by King B

What a load of BS. Having an amazing voice or tone is subjective and is not used to grade a vocalist. There's also nothing limited about Bey's voice compared to Xtina and JHud who really lack any musicality and just seem to belt notes (sometimes incorrectly) for the sake of it.

Now, tell me when those singers or any other singers from this generation are using their instrument as well as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw

I'll be waiting.

I'm not watching a video of Beyonce wasting air. Her voice epitomizes nothingness at its finest Give me an actual voice, thank you veddy much


Edit: If that link is that one video regarding Beyonce as The Queen of Vocals I swear to god

[Walley]

Originally posted by XLR8

I'm not watching

As expected. Obviously you don't want to be proven wrong like you know you will.

[XLR8]

Originally posted by Walley

As expected. Obviously you don't want to be proven wrong like you know you will.

Proven wrong about what? I've conceded many times that Beyonce is an astonishing technical singer. That I am not denying. But the voice itself? Very common. Her anatomy is nothing extraordinary, and she doesn't go beyond the "norm" of her vocal fach. She's matter of fact. Nothing transcendental about her voice. 90% That video factually speaking was vocal dynamics. And of the vocal dynamics she's primarily skilled in the realm of Pianissimo. That voice would crash and burn in Fortissimo

So finite dynamics? Okay

[Walley]

Originally posted by XLR8

Proven wrong about what? I've conceded many times that Beyonce is an astonishing technical singer. That I am not denying. But the voice itself? Very common. Her anatomy is nothing extraordinary, and she doesn't go beyond the "norm" of her vocal fach. She's matter of fact. Nothing transcendental about her voice. 90% That video factually speaking was vocal dynamics. And of the vocal dynamics she's primarily skilled in the realm of Pianissimo. That voice would crash and burn in Forissimo

So finite dynamics? Okay

So Jennifer Hudson's voice isn't common? I can pull 10 women from the church I go to that sound just like her. If you watched the video I posted of Beyoncé and Jennifer Hudson performing together on stage and tell me that Jennifer Hudson sounded better you're delusional.

[Samuel.]

Mariah Carey
Lady Gaga
Leona Lewis
Mónica Naranjo
Celine

[XLR8]

Originally posted by Walley

So Jennifer Hudson's voice isn't common? I can pull 10 women from the church I go to that sound just like her. If you watched the video I posted of Beyoncé and Jennifer Hudson performing together on stage and tell me that Jennifer Hudson sounded better you're delusional.

No, it isn't. The anatomical structure is generally that of a Lyric fach. That puts certain chains on one's voice, although there are those select few who break free of their binds and exceed their innate capacity (namely Mariah, Kelly, Carrie). Jennifer's tract is uncommon. She's a Spinto voice in the transition to Dramatic. Those facher are extremely rare. Jennifer's voice not only has an innate affinity in Fortissimo but Pianissimo as well whereas Beyonce's confined to only one.

Again, I'm judging the voice itself. Beyonce's voice is a wikipedia article. You can find it anywhere. She doesn't bypass the capacity of her voice. She sings within her natural parameters and has no ability to exceed them. It's feeble. I think Jennifer's voice is miles better than Beyonce's. That's my opinion. I don't think Beyonce has a good enough voice to compare to a great one like Jennifer's, Christina's or Mariah's or Patti's.

[BLaCKPoWeR]

NS: Beyonce, Jill Scott, idk who else

OS: Whitney Houston, Mary J. Blige, Aaliyah, Mariah I guess

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Here goes XLR8 in here talkin that NONSENSE about "Beyonce's voice isn't really a voice" BYE SON

I love Beyonce's warm, round, earthy tone. Thrilling, powerful, resonant high chest belts. Solid lower extension. Smooth transitions between registers. Beyond impressive agility and talent for dynamics. Ugh, Queen.

[ImmaSlave4u]

Vocalists?
Britney, Christina, Barbra, Kelly Clarkson, Celine Dion, Mariah, Whitney

Singers?
Christina, Barbra, Kelly Clarkson, Celine Dion, Mariah, Whitney