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Discussion: Why is Beyoncé shaded for being a "celebrity"?
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Trent W
Exactly all I see are insults, 0 sense and passionate anger
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No one is even "passionately angry". We're just annoyed and a bit amused (tbh) that you've spent all this time and energy in this thread trying to discredit her accomplishments with nonsensical arguments and failing.
Keep trying though. I'll keep reading and laughing.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
Posts: 11,016
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Originally posted by Wink
"When the navy thinks Mediatraffic is more reliable than the record label" |
Well Mediatraffic has UA at 3.2 - 3.4 million 
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Member Since: 3/24/2011
Posts: 2,315
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Originally posted by Sasha.
Like, I'm sorry, but I don't see how any album could sell 1,5m copies outside the bigger non-US markets.
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The US IS the biggest market.
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Member Since: 3/24/2011
Posts: 2,315
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Well Mediatraffic has UA at 3.4 million |
Welp.
And the navy swears it sold 4 million.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 11,844
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Originally posted by lonnie
Her record label went as far as illegally paying for her songs to be plated on radio, why would you think they wouldn't inflate her sales?
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Beyoncé had never used payola lol
On the other hand your fav has done all of the above
She has not to have an album sell 2 million copies in the worlds biggest market since 2008
She has yet to have solid tour numbers
But her label claims this things when this is on record of her luke warm career
Discounts , payloa , brought followers what doesn't she do  a queen indeed ha
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 9,438
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Originally posted by 50thStateofMind
No one is even "passionately angry". We're just annoyed and a bit amused (tbh) that you've spent all this time and energy in this thread trying to discredit her accomplishments with nonsensical arguments and failing.
Keep trying though. I'll keep reading and laughing.
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I've been here like 15 mins on and off, just trying to prove my point 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Originally posted by Wink
The US IS the biggest market.
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... no ****?
She sold 3m copies outside the US, yet only like half of those are accounted for in the major non-US markets (get it? big markets that aren't the US? need me to make a diagram?). Are you telling me she sold 1,5m copies combined in random European, African, and Asian countries where albums rarely go above 10k?
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
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Originally posted by Wink
Proof please.
And if they did, isn't it the same thing Def Scam is doing with Rihanna.
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Sony BMG also agreed to pay a $10 million fine, to be distributed to nonprofit organizations that promote music education; to follow new policies governing its efforts to cajole programmers; and to better monitor its promotional spending.
The finding that gifts were used to help tailor the playlists of many radio stations comes as audiences show signs of rejecting the music choices made by programmers. The iPod and other portable devices have begun cutting into the popularity of radio, and the growth of satellite radio has been putting pressure on the station owners to play a broader range of music.
For more than four decades, federal law has prohibited broadcasters from accepting secret payments or anything of value in exchange for airplay of a specific song. While music companies have long tried to sidestep the law, Mr. Spitzer says they have continued to violate it.
The state investigation found that Sony BMG, which releases music by acts including Jennifer Lopez, Good Charlotte and Beyoncé, had provided stations with entertainers for station-affiliated concerts or paid for station equipment or other bills in exchange for having its songs played. It also provided vacations and electronic goods for on-air giveaways in a direct trade for airplay. And it hired independent promoters to funnel money to radio stations.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/bu...tml?oref=login
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
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Originally posted by GrandMomCookies
Beyoncé had never used payola lol
On the other hand your fav has done all of the above
She has not to have an album sell 2 million copies in the worlds biggest market since 2008
She has yet to have solid tour numbers
But her label claims this things when this is on record of her luke warm career
Discounts , payloa , brought followers what doesn't she do a queen indeed ha |
Here are the receipts for Bey
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/26/bu...tml?oref=login
Mind giving any for Rih?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 8,025
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Quote:
Originally posted by Trent W
I've been here like 15 mins on and off, just trying to prove my point |
go for it. Like I said I'll keep reading and laughing
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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i love that bey stay on you guys mind tho lol
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 10,745
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
Her record label went as far as illegally paying for her songs to be plated on radio, why would you think they wouldn't inflate her sales?
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So Beyoncé's husband, who acts as an executive to Rihanna's entire career, allows his wife do all that but hasn't done it for his most profitable business venture? lol k
I feel like the Navy is low-key pissed that Rihanna's wealth is consequently Beyoncé's. Ya'll buying Unapologetic ironically paid for Blue Ivy's cloth diapers, so she can stay shittin on ya'll and your dusty ass internet opinions
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,010
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Originally posted by Trent W
You have to be kidding me if you believed that  |
It's very believable. Only a few countries are counted on Mediatraffic(mostly European), Beyonce's sells better in places like the Carribean, South America, Africa, Oceania, etc...
BEYONCÉ
#3 Kazakhstan
#3 Mongolia
#5 Bermuda
#5 The Bahamas
#5 Trinidad and Tobago
#7 Mozambique
#8 Anguilla
#8 Barbados
#8 Dominica
#8 Estonia
#8 Grenada
#9 Belarus
#9 Kyrgyzstan
#10 Ghana
#11 Azerbaijan
#11 Lebanon
#11 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#12 Kenya
#12 Lithuania
#13 Antigua and Barbuda
#13 Mongolia
#13 Uganda
#14 Nigeria
#15 Bulgaria
#15 Latvia
#15 Mauritius
#17 Mozambique
#17 Uzbekistan
#18 Botswana
#19 Armenia
#20 British Virgin Islands
#20 Turkmenistan
#21 Belize
#22 Cape Verde
#22 Dominican Republic
#22 Romania
#22 Slovakia
#23 Burkina Faso
#24 Malta
#24 Nigeria
#25 Cayman Islands
#26 Niger
#26 Ukraine
#27 Slovenia
#30 Cyprus
#34 Philippines
#34 Qatar
#34 United Arab Emirates
#36 Egypt
#36 Tajikistan
#37 Jordan
#38 Israel
#39 Antigua and Barbuda
#39 Fiji
#40 Panama
#40 Venezuela
#41 Bahrain
#43 Moldova
#43 Zimbabwe
#44 Grenada
#46 Kenya
#49 Saudi Arabia
#50 Malaysia
#53 Portugal
#54 Ghana
#56 Namibia
#57 Brunei Darussalam
#62 Cambodia
#62 Hungary
#62 Sweden
#63 Costa Rica
#64 Greece
#64 Poland
#68 El Salvador
#79 Oman
#80 Czech Republic
#80 Finland
#81 Mauritius
#81 Niger
#83 Singapore
#86 The Bahamas
#90 Nigeria
#92 Mozambique
#92 Vietnam
#94 Colombia
#104 Hong Kong
#106 Dominica
#108 Peru
#110 Cambodia
#110 Guatemala
#111 Bulgaria
#112 Fiji
#115 Argentina
#117 Ecuador
#119 Taiwan
#121 Turkey
#124 Papua New Guinea
#127 Barbados
#128 South Africa
#130 Uganda
#133 Thailand
#135 Paraguay
#138 Azerbaijan
#142 Macau
#146 Australia
#147 Luxembourg
#149 Netherlands
#150 Chile
#153 Belgium
#154 Nicaragua
#154 Sri Lanka
#159 Honduras
#168 Romania
#171 United States
#172 India
#173 Indonesia
#177 Norway
#178 Denmark
#179 Botswana
#180 New Zealand
#182 Uganda
#191 Brazil
#191 Ireland
#192 Moldova
#197 Turkey
Not bad for a 1 year old album.  Truly Global!!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 7,221
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I'm jumping into this late, but I don't think Beyoncé has been seen as Beyonce the singer since the IASF era. After that she transgressed and progressed into a full fledged BRAND, and that's why she is now seen as such. Her music now is like a treat. Back in the day it was an expectation.
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Member Since: 3/24/2011
Posts: 2,315
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Originally posted by Sasha.
... no ****?
She sold 3m copies outside the US, yet only like half of those are accounted for in the major non-US markets (get it? big markets that aren't the US? need me to make a diagram?). Are you telling me she sold 1,5m copies combined in random European, African, and Asian countries where albums rarely go above 10k?
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Lol. nonsense.
Please show me where I said BEYONCE sold 3m outside the US. I said she did (sold 3 million albums) outside the US with her first 3 albums which is a fact. DIL, B'DAY and IASF all sold 3 million outside the US. BEYONCE sales are lower and she did not sell 3 million outside the US with that album.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Quote:
Originally posted by Timber
It's very believable. Only a few countries are counted on Mediatraffic(mostly European), Beyonce's sells better in places like the Carribean, South America, Africa, Oceania, etc...
BEYONCÉ
#3 Kazakhstan
#3 Mongolia
#5 Bermuda
#5 The Bahamas
#5 Trinidad and Tobago
#7 Mozambique
#8 Anguilla
#8 Barbados
#8 Dominica
#8 Estonia
#8 Grenada
#9 Belarus
#9 Kyrgyzstan
#10 Ghana
#11 Azerbaijan
#11 Lebanon
#11 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#12 Kenya
#12 Lithuania
#13 Antigua and Barbuda
#13 Mongolia
#13 Uganda
#14 Nigeria
#15 Bulgaria
#15 Latvia
#15 Mauritius
#17 Mozambique
#17 Uzbekistan
#18 Botswana
#19 Armenia
#20 British Virgin Islands
#20 Turkmenistan
#21 Belize
#22 Cape Verde
#22 Dominican Republic
#22 Romania
#22 Slovakia
#23 Burkina Faso
#24 Malta
#24 Nigeria
#25 Cayman Islands
#26 Niger
#26 Ukraine
#27 Slovenia
#30 Cyprus
#34 Philippines
#34 Qatar
#34 United Arab Emirates
#36 Egypt
#36 Tajikistan
#37 Jordan
#38 Israel
#39 Antigua and Barbuda
#39 Fiji
#40 Panama
#40 Venezuela
#41 Bahrain
#43 Moldova
#43 Zimbabwe
#44 Grenada
#46 Kenya
#49 Saudi Arabia
#50 Malaysia
#53 Portugal
#54 Ghana
#56 Namibia
#57 Brunei Darussalam
#62 Cambodia
#62 Hungary
#62 Sweden
#63 Costa Rica
#64 Greece
#64 Poland
#68 El Salvador
#79 Oman
#80 Czech Republic
#80 Finland
#81 Mauritius
#81 Niger
#83 Singapore
#86 The Bahamas
#90 Nigeria
#92 Mozambique
#92 Vietnam
#94 Colombia
#104 Hong Kong
#106 Dominica
#108 Peru
#110 Cambodia
#110 Guatemala
#111 Bulgaria
#112 Fiji
#115 Argentina
#117 Ecuador
#119 Taiwan
#121 Turkey
#124 Papua New Guinea
#127 Barbados
#128 South Africa
#130 Uganda
#133 Thailand
#135 Paraguay
#138 Azerbaijan
#142 Macau
#146 Australia
#147 Luxembourg
#149 Netherlands
#150 Chile
#153 Belgium
#154 Nicaragua
#154 Sri Lanka
#159 Honduras
#168 Romania
#171 United States
#172 India
#173 Indonesia
#177 Norway
#178 Denmark
#179 Botswana
#180 New Zealand
#182 Uganda
#191 Brazil
#191 Ireland
#192 Moldova
#197 Turkey
Not bad for a 1 year old album. Truly Global!! |
BEYONCE probably sold less than 1k in 90% of those countries. Most countries have terrible sales/non-existing music markets, like...
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 9,438
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Quote:
Originally posted by Timber
It's very believable. Only a few countries are counted on Mediatraffic(mostly European), Beyonce's sells better in places like the Carribean, South America, Africa, Oceania, etc...
BEYONCÉ
#3 Kazakhstan
#3 Mongolia
#5 Bermuda
#5 The Bahamas
#5 Trinidad and Tobago
#7 Mozambique
#8 Anguilla
#8 Barbados
#8 Dominica
#8 Estonia
#8 Grenada
#9 Belarus
#9 Kyrgyzstan
#10 Ghana
#11 Azerbaijan
#11 Lebanon
#11 Saint Kitts and Nevis
#12 Kenya
#12 Lithuania
#13 Antigua and Barbuda
#13 Mongolia
#13 Uganda
#14 Nigeria
#15 Bulgaria
#15 Latvia
#15 Mauritius
#17 Mozambique
#17 Uzbekistan
#18 Botswana
#19 Armenia
#20 British Virgin Islands
#20 Turkmenistan
#21 Belize
#22 Cape Verde
#22 Dominican Republic
#22 Romania
#22 Slovakia
#23 Burkina Faso
#24 Malta
#24 Nigeria
#25 Cayman Islands
#26 Niger
#26 Ukraine
#27 Slovenia
#30 Cyprus
#34 Philippines
#34 Qatar
#34 United Arab Emirates
#36 Egypt
#36 Tajikistan
#37 Jordan
#38 Israel
#39 Antigua and Barbuda
#39 Fiji
#40 Panama
#40 Venezuela
#41 Bahrain
#43 Moldova
#43 Zimbabwe
#44 Grenada
#46 Kenya
#49 Saudi Arabia
#50 Malaysia
#53 Portugal
#54 Ghana
#56 Namibia
#57 Brunei Darussalam
#62 Cambodia
#62 Hungary
#62 Sweden
#63 Costa Rica
#64 Greece
#64 Poland
#68 El Salvador
#79 Oman
#80 Czech Republic
#80 Finland
#81 Mauritius
#81 Niger
#83 Singapore
#86 The Bahamas
#90 Nigeria
#92 Mozambique
#92 Vietnam
#94 Colombia
#104 Hong Kong
#106 Dominica
#108 Peru
#110 Cambodia
#110 Guatemala
#111 Bulgaria
#112 Fiji
#115 Argentina
#117 Ecuador
#119 Taiwan
#121 Turkey
#124 Papua New Guinea
#127 Barbados
#128 South Africa
#130 Uganda
#133 Thailand
#135 Paraguay
#138 Azerbaijan
#142 Macau
#146 Australia
#147 Luxembourg
#149 Netherlands
#150 Chile
#153 Belgium
#154 Nicaragua
#154 Sri Lanka
#159 Honduras
#168 Romania
#171 United States
#172 India
#173 Indonesia
#177 Norway
#178 Denmark
#179 Botswana
#180 New Zealand
#182 Uganda
#191 Brazil
#191 Ireland
#192 Moldova
#197 Turkey
Not bad for a 1 year old album. Truly Global!! |
So that justifies that 5 million inflation some member just posted?
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
Posts: 18,038
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Originally posted by qurl
So Beyoncé's husband, who acts as an executive to Rihanna's entire career, let's his wife do all that but hasn't done it for his most profitable business venture? lol k
I feel like the Navy is low-key pissed that Rihanna's wealth is consequently Beyoncé's. Ya'll buying Unapologetic ironically paid for Blue Ivy's cloth diapers, so she can stay shittin on ya'll and your dusty ass internet opinions
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It was done by Epic records not Jay Z, and isn't this proof?
Where is the proof Def Jam does it with Rih?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Originally posted by Wink
Lol. nonsense.
Please show me where I said BEYONCE sold 3m outside the US. I said she did (sold 3 million albums) outside the US with her first 3 albums which is a fact. DIL, B'DAY and IASF all sold 3 million outside the US. BEYONCE sales are lower and she did not sell 3 million outside the US with that album.
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But I'm still talking about the album, not her entire career. Please stop responding to my posts if you're not talking about the same thing  This just makes things confusing.
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