[Nialler]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Queen of critical acclaim.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/be...y-feat-juicy-j

MYLES TANZER: A lot can be said about the failure of Prism, but "Dark Horse" just works. The song doesn't have a proper chorus but still manages to have a million hooks. When Katy Perry asks "so you wanna play with magic?," I actually believe that she's a witch. She sells the hell out of this dumb song in a way that no one else could.
My Vote: “Dark Horse”

lmao
Birthday & TIHWD destroyed her

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Nialler

lmao
Birthday & TIHWD destroyed her

ddd mte. I guess only failures sell 3+ million WW.

[Life Savers]

She sells the hell out of this dumb song in a way that no one else could.

What kind of backhanded compliment

[Jackson]

I can't at that shady guy calling PRISM a failure though

I don't know how much we have to apologize for this era not being Teenage Dream

[Penny.]

Originally posted by sunofaphrodite

the idea of an urban ep is so perfect



i need her DARKPOP

yessss

[Aurora]

omg @ people still trying it with TIHWD, Birthday totally killed all era momentum and TIHWD totally saved as much as it could. Facts are facts. TIHWD is the third biggest PRISM era single.

[Jackson]

Originally posted by Sam Jay

omg @ people still trying it with TIHWD, Birthday totally killed all era momentum and TIHWD totally saved as much as it could. Facts are facts. TIHWD is the third biggest PRISM era single.

Yep, it was radio's fault TIHWD didnt happen. It would've been WUIV sized if it caught on there

[Ferst]

Originally posted by Sam Jay

omg @ people still trying it with TIHWD, Birthday totally killed all era momentum and TIHWD totally saved as much as it could. Facts are facts. TIHWD is the third biggest PRISM era single.

TIHWD killed the era, not Birthday.
That is a fact.



And Uncle is the third biggest single from PRISM.
WOA is coming tho.

[Jackson]

Birthday never should've happened

[Aurora]

Not when TIHWD has more views than both Birthday vids combined and charted for just as long despite peaking lower and having zero radio support. Plus TIHWD did better WW overall.

Roar > Dark Horse >>>>> This Is How We Do > Unconditionally > Birthday

"This is no big deal" literally has more impact than anything from Birthday.

[Jackson]

Uncle was bigger than TIHWD but other than that you're right Sam Jay

[Aurora]

Even more reason to blame Birthday for TIHWD's underperformance because they wasted so much payola on trying to make Birthday happen and it backfired. If it had been distributed evenly between Birthday and TIHWD, Birthday would have probably been the new Thinking of You and broken her Top 30 streak and TIHWD would have been a WUIV/Blow/Love Me Harder size hit.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Sam do you know who's bigger in NZ? Lorde or Katy?

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Sam Jay

Even more reason to blame Birthday for TIHWD's underperformance because they wasted so much payola on trying to make Birthday happen and it backfired. If it had been distributed evenly between Birthday and TIHWD, Birthday would have probably been the new Thinking of You and broken her Top 30 streak and TIHWD would have been a WUIV/Blow/Love Me Harder size hit.

No. TIHWD's video gave it some appeal but they still poured more money in TIHWD than DH. Their marketing was in vain tho. A lot of stations never really picked it up and it dropped like flies off playlists. I myself have only heard it twice or thrice; two of those times it was in some late night hour or on AT40 (so they HAD to play it ) It was destined to doom after the market research came in. People didn't like the song and goldsoundz posted this tea a while ago.

[Ferst]

@Sam Jay: We've been over this way too many times. Let's just agree to disagree.

[Aurora]

Uncle was only a bigger hit due to circumstance. The GP were clearly here for TIHWD more. People bought Uncle as a single because it came out before PRISM / early on, whereas most people who liked TIHWD probably already owned the album after
Dark Horse blew up.

Make TIHWD and Uncle swap positions and they wouldn't peak at 14 and
24 respectively, more like Top 5 and Top 30
(at best)

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

WHaaaaaaaaaaT? Wasn't Uncle released WITH the album? That's one reason why it underperformed.

[SupahBass05]

I will always blame ha team for not making Uncle a pre-order single when the pre-order effect was still new. Remember WoA?

[Aurora]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

No. TIHWD's video gave it some appeal but they still poured more money in TIHWD than DH. Their marketing was in vain tho. A lot of stations never really picked it up and it dropped like flies off playlists. I myself have only heard it twice or thrice; two of those times it was in some late night hour or on AT40 (so they HAD to play it ) It was destined to doom after the market research came in. People didn't like the song and goldsoundz posted this tea a while ago.

Uh uh. Never mentioned DH but you're probably right there, DH took off on its own. But TIHWD didn't cost much. The promo was next to non existent.

Let's just assume for a minute that the GP disliked TIHWD just as much as Birthday, the only difference is Birthday was pushes HARD despite this and TIHWD wasn't, yet both songs ended up performing pretty similarly, with both songs doing better in different areas.

There's no tea that anyone can post that contradicts real and actual available information such as TIHWD's much higher views, better WW performance and equal longevity without payola and radio spins.

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Sam Jay

Uh uh. Never mentioned DH but you're probably right there, DH took off on its own. But TIHWD didn't cost much. The promo was next to non existent.

Let's just assume for a minute that the GP disliked TIHWD just as much as Birthday, the only difference is Birthday was pushes HARD despite this and TIHWD wasn't, yet both songs ended up performing pretty similarly, with both songs doing better in different areas.

There's no tea that anyone can post that contradicts real and actual available information such as TIHWD's much higher views, better WW performance and equal longevity without payola and radio spins.

They sent reps around the country to beg stations to play it, including Hot AC and Rhythmic--fruitless endeavors. It went top 20 on Pop because Capitol was able to convince stations in the midwest to play it while she was touring there. She spent a day recording introductions for Clear Channel stations on the coasts that had to drop the track a week later because research came back, and it was terrible. Since those stations set the trends, the midwest and south followed. Those are the facts.

??? He's talking about TIHWD.