[pika]

Originally posted by lonnie

But you said those were shipments and hence if we use IFPI, the Katycats reliable source, then she sold less.
Anyway there isn't one reliable source that has figures of Prism selling more than Unapologetic

Originally posted by lonnie

It did, and since the Katycats love IFPI as source, according to IFPI Prism did 2.8M while UNAPOLOGETIC did 4.1M, a 1.3 million difference in copies sold.
Did I remark that the album was able to do it with way less promo?

No, it didn't. IFPI had Unapologetic at 2.3m by year-end (so did Universal) and PRISM at 2.8/2.9m. They never reported an extra 1.8m for Unapologetic.


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/Digita...eport-2014.pdf


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/dmr201...rt_english.pdf


http://www.vivendi.com/wp-content/up...ef_2013_en.pdf

You literally combined IFPI numbers with Mediatraffic's 2013 numbers for Unapologetic and tried to pass it off as the same source. So yet again, Katy wins. Why do Rihanna stans always lie?

[nickolsen]

I feel like Diamonds was bigger than the whole prism era.

[pika]

Originally posted by nickolsen

I feel like Diamonds was bigger than the whole prism era.

According to Mediatraffic (The Navy's favorite source since they believe Katy stans cling to IFPI!), Roar crushed Diamonds.

77. Roar
143. Diamonds
http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

Roar also made the top 5 on IFPI, while Diamonds didn't even make the top 10. Roar also has more youtube views (another source the Navy loves to use), so yeah not really.

[Schoolin' Life]

Yeah, it's funny Kats are beating Navy in their own game. Watch they try to use "acclaim" etc. And death at minimal promo when DJ literally locked 100 journalists to get that press plus made 7 countries tour across NA and Europe to get sales. And yes some of these were streamed/televised.

[Rafael]

Originally posted by pika

No, it didn't. IFPI had Unapologetic at 2.3m by year-end (so did Universal) and PRISM at 2.8/2.9m. They never reported an extra 1.8m for Unapologetic.


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/Digita...eport-2014.pdf


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/dmr201...rt_english.pdf


http://www.vivendi.com/wp-content/up...ef_2013_en.pdf

You literally combined IFPI numbers with Mediatraffic's 2013 numbers for Unapologetic and tried to pass it off as the same source. So yet again, Katy wins. Why do Rihanna stans always lie?

Originally posted by pika

According to Mediatraffic (The Navy's favorite source since they believe Katy stans cling to IFPI!), Roar crushed Diamonds.

77. Roar
143. Diamonds
http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

Roar also made the top 5 on IFPI, while Diamonds didn't even make the top 10. Roar also has more youtube views (another source the Navy loves to use), so yeah not really.

The SCALP is real and it hurts from miles

[Schhh]

Originally posted by pika

No, it didn't. IFPI had Unapologetic at 2.3m by year-end (so did Universal) and PRISM at 2.8/2.9m. They never reported an extra 1.8m for Unapologetic.


You literally combined IFPI numbers with Mediatraffic's 2013 numbers for Unapologetic and tried to pass it off as the same source. So yet again, Katy wins. Why do Rihanna stans always lie?

nnnn the exposè.

[Starstruck.]

Lmao PRISM of COURSE

[Mariano]

they are pretty close I guess (overall albums + singles)

Katy will def have the edge with her tour and the Superbowl.

[doublerainbow]

Yes

[newwil7l]

The Navy is embarrassing in here

[Tom_Ford]

I think it is

[SeanET]

Originally posted by pika

No, it didn't. IFPI had Unapologetic at 2.3m by year-end (so did Universal) and PRISM at 2.8/2.9m. They never reported an extra 1.8m for Unapologetic.


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/Digita...eport-2014.pdf


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/dmr201...rt_english.pdf


http://www.vivendi.com/wp-content/up...ef_2013_en.pdf

You literally combined IFPI numbers with Mediatraffic's 2013 numbers for Unapologetic and tried to pass it off as the same source. So yet again, Katy wins. Why do Rihanna stans always lie?

Originally posted by pika

According to Mediatraffic (The Navy's favorite source since they believe Katy stans cling to IFPI!), Roar crushed Diamonds.

77. Roar
143. Diamonds
http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm

Roar also made the top 5 on IFPI, while Diamonds didn't even make the top 10. Roar also has more youtube views (another source the Navy loves to use), so yeah not really.

Originally posted by Schoolin' Life

Yeah, it's funny Kats are beating Navy in their own game. Watch they try to use "acclaim" etc. And death at minimal promo when DJ literally locked 100 journalists to get that press plus made 7 countries tour across NA and Europe to get sales. And yes some of these were streamed/televised.

Originally posted by Rafael

The SCALP is real and it hurts from miles

Originally posted by Schhh

nnnn the exposè.

Originally posted by Starstruck.

Lmao PRISM of COURSE

Originally posted by newwil7l

The Navy is embarrassing in here

Originally posted by Tom_Ford

I think it is

this thread is LIFE

[Tom_Ford]

Originally posted by Schoolin' Life

Yeah, it's funny Kats are beating Navy in their own game. Watch they try to use "acclaim" etc. And death at minimal promo when DJ literally locked 100 journalists to get that press plus made 7 countries tour across NA and Europe to get sales. And yes some of these were streamed/televised.

Didn't the whole 777 tour air on Fox too?

[Yooorsh]

YES.

[Triton]

Katy Wins

[Rama]

My beloved Kats brought them receipts, so I'll go with PRISM.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by pika

No, it didn't. IFPI had Unapologetic at 2.3m by year-end (so did Universal) and PRISM at 2.8/2.9m. They never reported an extra 1.8m for Unapologetic.


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/Digita...eport-2014.pdf


http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/dmr201...rt_english.pdf


http://www.vivendi.com/wp-content/up...ef_2013_en.pdf

You literally combined IFPI numbers with Mediatraffic's 2013 numbers for Unapologetic and tried to pass it off as the same source. So yet again, Katy wins. Why do Rihanna stans always lie?

2.3M was reported for 2013 and 1.8M reported for 2012
The sheep all bleating and agreeing to this

[pika]

Originally posted by lonnie

2.3M was reported for 2013 and 1.8M reported for 2012
The sheep all bleating and agreeing to this

I literally just posted pictures and links of neither IFPI or Universal (two companies that report shipments) ever saying anything about Unapologetic selling that extra 1.8m.

In fact, the only site that brings up this 4.1m figure is Rihanna's wiki page ("According to IFPI, Unapologetic has sold 2.3 million copies in 2012 and 1.8 million copies in 2013 with total of 4.1 million copies worldwide.") and the source is some random French website that isn't even sourcing IFPI.

So yeah, using the emote as if you just came back for a 'major clock!' isn't really working here.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by pika

I literally just posted pictures and links of neither IFPI or Universal (two companies that report shipments) ever saying anything about Unapologetic selling that extra 1.8m.

In fact, the only site that brings up this 4.1m figure is Rihanna's wiki page ("According to IFPI, Unapologetic has sold 2.3 million copies in 2012 and 1.8 million copies in 2013 with total of 4.1 million copies worldwide.") and the source is some random French website that isn't even sourcing IFPI.

So yeah, using the emote as if you just came back for a 'major clock!' isn't really working here.

Regardless MusicCharts and Mediatraffic both have unapologetic selling more than prism so it isn't just () but unapologetic did sell more

[pika]

Originally posted by lonnie

Regardless

Regardless nothing, you're the one that kept nagging on about IFPI, but fleet to Mediatraffic since that turned out to work against you.

The only 'regardless' thing here is that Unapologetic, with being out for nearly a year longer and before the industry collapse of 2013/2014 with streaming, is only ahead of PRISM by a a few 100ks, which Katy will close in on as time goes by (Super Bowl + tour). Nothing more, nothing less.