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Discussion: Gaga exceeds estimates + goes #1, why the downplay?
Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by TheNight
His last album, Viva Duets, debuted at #5 with 36,000 copies sold. ( Source) Thus, you're point is incorrect. |
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Originally posted by Rusty
The last time Tony release a collab album with another artist was in 2002, with k.d lang. It managed to peak at #41. Please stop talking out of your asses, people.
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I don't think that she exceeded the estimates. She didn't do very well tbh. She couldn't have not even one single charting on the top100 and the album will have a 70-80% downfall next week, like Artpop did. Celebrating a number one album by Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett isn't something special tbh. She discounted the album in its first week and Interscope (plus Tony's label) promoted it, too, putting all of the label's artists tweet the c2c iTunes link. Tony's last album sold more and not people saying it had gaga in it, when gaga just featured in one song, if I'm not wrong.
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I'm sure it's a good album, but don't ignore Tony, OP. It's not Gaga's #1. I guarantee the majority of sales were his fans. It's HIS album.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
I don't think that she exceeded the estimates.
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They estimated 115k-120k just last week, she sold 131k, how did she not exceed them?
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the album will have a 70-80% downfall next week
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How do you know? Is this how you do?
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when gaga just featured in one song, if I'm not wrong.
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LMAO! Maybe you should first check your lipstick before entering this thread. Tony has 2 solo songs and all other songs are together or even just Gaga.
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Originally posted by Tutankhamun
Because Tony's last album sold more? He lost 40k of sales due to the inclusion of Gaga in his album, clearly proving that Gaga has a negative fanbase at this point which is very alarming.
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so it's gaga the reason that he lost about 40.000 copies sold this album in front of his last solo album right? dont you know that we are in historical low music sales year? do you know how many artists got a downfall to their first week sales? do you knwo how many are struggling to sale 500.000 or 1.000.000 or 1.500.000? + you have to know that there are a lot and when a say a lot I mean A LOT of gaga fans that they wont buy the album because the dont like jazz (they better buy it tho) and there are also a lot of gaga fans (also me) that their going to buy on holidays days because its going to be discounted & jazz selling more in those days!
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Originally posted by ClinicStudent
I'm sure it's a good album, but don't ignore Tony, OP. It's not Gaga's #1. I guarantee the majority of sales were his fans. It's HIS album.
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No, it's their album. They equally share the success. Gaga just seems to be getting more praise because she is a pop star, and this is ATRL, where pop stars rule, and also because this is the first time she's released an album that is not pop, which makes its success even more notable.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Doesn't Gaga always get #1 albums? WTF is the big deal with this one? I don't understand the hype from the monsters around it.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
I don't think that she exceeded the estimates. She didn't do very well tbh.
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HDD estimated that she and Tony would sell 115-125k. They sold 131k.
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
Celebrating a number one album by Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett isn't something special tbh. She discounted the album in its first week and Interscope (plus Tony's label) promoted it, too, putting all of the label's artists tweet the c2c iTunes link.
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So it's a bad thing that she and Tony promoted their album?
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
Tony's last album sold more and not people saying it had gaga in it, when gaga just featured in one song, if I'm not wrong.
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TheNight already addressed this:
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Originally posted by TheNight
His last album, Viva Duets, debuted at #5 with 36,000 copies sold. ( Source) Thus, your point is incorrect. |
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
I don't think that she exceeded the estimates. She didn't do very well tbh. She couldn't have not even one single charting on the top100 and the album will have a 70-80% downfall next week, like Artpop did. Celebrating a number one album by Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett isn't something special tbh. She discounted the album in its first week and Interscope (plus Tony's label) promoted it, too, putting all of the label's artists tweet the c2c iTunes link. Tony's last album sold more and not people saying it had gaga in it, when gaga just featured in one song, if I'm not wrong.
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She DID exceed expectations and estimates. WTH are you even talking about?
Go check out the first weeks sales predictions for C#1C 
She did EXTREMELY well with ZERO radio support and we all know how much radios can help.
I'm sure you know that fact very well too.
Wait just a ****ing second, did you seriously expect a JAZZ COVER song to chart in the top100 with ZERO radio support. Their sole intentions with this album was to sell the ALBUM. Jazz/holiday albums don't work like pop albums. Which is why the released as many singles as they could, to let the gp know how incredible the Queen of Pop and Jazz alongside Legend Tony sound on this new record.
Celebrating a #1 for a JAZZ album is a big ****ing deal and we WILL make it a big ****ing deal.
So did Barbra AND Kenny.All three albums were discounted therefore it was basically a battle to see who gets the #1 and T&G snatched it.
That's pure ******** because Ariana, Britney, Andy Cohen, Brian May are NOT her labelmates.
Tony's last album had collaborations with TONS of big names in the music industry (John Mayer, Mariah Carey, Amy Winehouse, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Sheryl Crow, Queen Latifah, Norah Jones, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli, Faith Hill, Alejandro Sanz AND Carrie Underwood) excluding Gaga PLUS it was released two months AFTER Amy passed away. The single used to promote the album before it was released was Body and Soul which was a duet with Amy Winehouse (of course).
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
She DID exceed expectations and estimates. WTH are you even talking about?
Go check out the first weeks sales predictions for C#1C
She did EXTREMELY well with ZERO radio support and we all know how much radios can help.
I'm sure you know that fact very well too.
Wait just a ****ing second, did you seriously expect a JAZZ COVER song to chart in the top100 with ZERO radio support. Their sole intentions with this album was to sell the ALBUM. Jazz/holiday albums don't work like pop albums. Which is why the released as many singles as they could, to let the gp know how incredible the Queen of Pop and Jazz alongside Legend Tony sound on this new record.
Celebrating a #1 for a JAZZ album is a big ****ing deal and we WILL make it a big ****ing deal.
So did Barbra AND Kenny.All three albums were discounted therefore it was basically a battle to see who gets the #1 and T&G snatched it.
That's pure ******** because Ariana, Britney, Andy Cohen, Brian May are NOT her labelmates.
Tony's last album had collaborations with TONS of big names in the music industry (John Mayer, Mariah Carey, Amy Winehouse, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Sheryl Crow, Queen Latifah, Norah Jones, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli, Faith Hill, Alejandro Sanz AND Carrie Underwood) excluding Gaga PLUS it was released two months AFTER Amy passed away. The single used to promote the album before it was released was Body and Soul which was a duet with Amy Winehouse (of course).
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Fume a biT Princey 
At the end of the day, Gaga isn't the most liked figure here so I'm not surprised that people run in here trying to discredit her when what she did was good really. I'm not the biggest Gaga fan but even I can see that success outside of one's comfort zone is impressive and should be credited as such.
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Originally posted by lousaysthings
Fume a biT Princey
At the end of the day, Gaga isn't the most liked figure here so I'm not surprised that people run in here trying to discredit her when what she did was good really. I'm not the biggest Gaga fan but even I can see that success outside of one's comfort zone is impressive and should be credited as such. |
You call it fuming, I call it scalping with FACTS 
Thank you for that 
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Originally posted by ivi
They estimated 115k-120k just last week, she sold 131k, how did she not exceed them?
How do you know? Is this how you do?
LMAO! Maybe you should first check your lipstick before entering this thread. Tony has 2 solo songs and all other songs are together or even just Gaga.
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Your last point  I'm referring to Tony's last album, is it so difficult to understand ? 
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No one says this flopped. If someone does, they're delusional.
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Originally posted by blaggot
they're pressed and stressed. probably got bald spots from pulling their hair out in frustration from seeing her name at the #1 spot on the bb200
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Originally posted by alex_katycat
Your last point I'm referring to Tony's last album, is it so difficult to understand ? |
She wasn't on Tony's last album, Viva Duets, which people have shown the receipts for it not doing as well as this. She was on Duets II, and it was the second single, not just any throwaway track.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
She DID exceed expectations and estimates. WTH are you even talking about?
Go check out the first weeks sales predictions for C#1C
She did EXTREMELY well with ZERO radio support and we all know how much radios can help.
I'm sure you know that fact very well too.
Wait just a ****ing second, did you seriously expect a JAZZ COVER song to chart in the top100 with ZERO radio support. Their sole intentions with this album was to sell the ALBUM. Jazz/holiday albums don't work like pop albums. Which is why the released as many singles as they could, to let the gp know how incredible the Queen of Pop and Jazz alongside Legend Tony sound on this new record.
Celebrating a #1 for a JAZZ album is a big ****ing deal and we WILL make it a big ****ing deal.
So did Barbra AND Kenny.All three albums were discounted therefore it was basically a battle to see who gets the #1 and T&G snatched it.
That's pure ******** because Ariana, Britney, Andy Cohen, Brian May are NOT her labelmates.
Tony's last album had collaborations with TONS of big names in the music industry (John Mayer, Mariah Carey, Amy Winehouse, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Sheryl Crow, Queen Latifah, Norah Jones, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli, Faith Hill, Alejandro Sanz AND Carrie Underwood) excluding Gaga PLUS it was released two months AFTER Amy passed away. The single used to promote the album before it was released was Body and Soul which was a duet with Amy Winehouse (of course).
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Yaaasss scalp his miserable existence!
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The kats are so mean 
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
She DID exceed expectations and estimates. WTH are you even talking about?
Go check out the first weeks sales predictions for C#1C
She did EXTREMELY well with ZERO radio support and we all know how much radios can help.
I'm sure you know that fact very well too.
Wait just a ****ing second, did you seriously expect a JAZZ COVER song to chart in the top100 with ZERO radio support. Their sole intentions with this album was to sell the ALBUM. Jazz/holiday albums don't work like pop albums. Which is why the released as many singles as they could, to let the gp know how incredible the Queen of Pop and Jazz alongside Legend Tony sound on this new record.
Celebrating a #1 for a JAZZ album is a big ****ing deal and we WILL make it a big ****ing deal.
So did Barbra AND Kenny.All three albums were discounted therefore it was basically a battle to see who gets the #1 and T&G snatched it.
That's pure ******** because Ariana, Britney, Andy Cohen, Brian May are NOT her labelmates.
Tony's last album had collaborations with TONS of big names in the music industry (John Mayer, Mariah Carey, Amy Winehouse, Michael Buble, Aretha Franklin, Sheryl Crow, Queen Latifah, Norah Jones, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli, Faith Hill, Alejandro Sanz AND Carrie Underwood) excluding Gaga PLUS it was released two months AFTER Amy passed away. The single used to promote the album before it was released was Body and Soul which was a duet with Amy Winehouse (of course).
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omg  destroy ha.
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Why are people so eager to discredit her? Like your faves could do better.
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It was a joint effort, so I'm inclined to give her credit for about 65k.
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