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Discussion: Rebecca responds To Gaga
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
1. I'm not defending anybody. I'm raising questions on the whole thing. What makes you think she sued GaGa just for the money? If you wrote a song that was atypical (such as Juda juda da da da) and that song was recorded by somebody with your ex involved, would not YOU make a reasonable connection and exact some compensation?
2. I do not dislike Lady GaGa. I dislike the hypocritical nature of her persona.
Go ahead and laugh at me. If I'm not wrong it's something a large portion of your stanbase does right?
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NO, not when there are NO similarities AT ALL.
It doesn't matter who made that song with her. She's suing because she thinks that she can easily snatch some coins from Gaga by saying these songs are similar.
There's no reasonable connection to be made here.
Even Kelly Clarkson has a song titled Judas. Does this mean she should be sued as well?
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Originally posted by Versace
Anyone who thinks it's wrong to counter sue her is just plain stupid. It's totally irrelevant that Gaga has a lot of money and would bring bankruptcy to Rebecca F. That means anyone can sue a celebrity on something with no merit and not experience any consequences. Hell, if a person goes to jail for a murder, you could say he doesn't deserve it because he has a family. I mean the logic behind that is so severely stupid.
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Originally posted by j0el88
As a member posted above, your 'I just posted this for everyone's benefit' act is very transparent and you would have known exactly the reaction you would get and now you complain about it. You'll never accept that you're somewhat bringing it on yourself so I'm not going to get dragged into a back and forth with you. I'll just go back to my casual browsing and shaking my head. Enjoy!
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
Well no, the constant barrage is the problem here. Not the other way around.
I have not once personally insulted someone here yet it's happened to me as you put it "constant barrage" Your advice should be directed at the problem, towards the people that don't have the ability to keep their emotions in check.
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You're such a liar
http://atrl.net/?p=24336707
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I'll get a warning point for this and I'll deserve it but it's worth it because you're a disgusting, vulgar little stan
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All those baseless accusations. Goodbye. 
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
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 Let me wait for his "here's why I'm allowed to throw insults and you're not" defense!
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Let me wait for his "here's why I'm allowed to throw insults and you're not" defense! |
I doubt he'd even post anything in here. I know I wouldn't after being scalped and snatched this many times in one thread.
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
NO, not when there are NO similarities AT ALL.
It doesn't matter who made that song with her. She's suing because she thinks that she can easily snatch some coins from Gaga by saying these songs are similar.
There's no reasonable connection to be made here.
Even Kelly Clarkson has a song titled Judas. Does this mean she should be sued as well?
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Yeah and Kelly Clarkson and P!nk have songs called "Sober".
Song titles aren't the issue.
May I throw a question at you, personally?
Let's say you, PRiNCE HiGH, wrote a song that was unusual. Let's say your lyrics are "Slippy ippy i i i ippy. Slippy ipp ippy" and years later a song with similar lyrics came out and your ex, who has the original workings of the song, worked with this artist.
Would you not find something fishy? Would you not think that you were stolen from? I personally feel that Rebecca was justified in suing, given the circumstances of similarity and the ex-factor.
You would want more than 1 judge to decide the case right? You would want a jury to deliberate right? You would want a fair trial, correct?
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
Yeah and Kelly Clarkson and P!nk have songs called "Sober".
Song titles aren't the issue.
May I throw a question at you, personally?
Let's say you, PRiNCE HiGH, wrote a song that was unusual. Let's say your lyrics are "Slippy ippy i i i ippy. Slippy ipp ippy" and years later a song with similar lyrics came out and your ex, who has the original workings of the song, worked with this artist.
Would you not find something fishy? Would you not think that you were stolen from? I personally feel that Rebecca was justified in suing, given the circumstances of similarity and the ex-factor.
You would want more than 1 judge to decide the case right? You would want a jury to deliberate right? You would want a fair trial, correct?
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Similar lyrics? Can you point out where the similarities are?
I would BUT after listening to both songs are noticing that there are NO similarities at all, I wouldn't have waste my and the other party's time by filing a case against them.
Her cases has no basis at all when the songs are not even remotely similar.
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
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I said in here, meaning this thread.
Do you have an example pertaining to this thread?
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
Yeah and Kelly Clarkson and P!nk have songs called "Sober".
Song titles aren't the issue.
May I throw a question at you, personally?
Let's say you, PRiNCE HiGH, wrote a song that was unusual. Let's say your lyrics are "Slippy ippy i i i ippy. Slippy ipp ippy" and years later a song with similar lyrics came out and your ex, who has the original workings of the song, worked with this artist.
Would you not find something fishy? Would you not think that you were stolen from? I personally feel that Rebecca was justified in suing, given the circumstances of similarity and the ex-factor.
You would want more than 1 judge to decide the case right? You would want a jury to deliberate right? You would want a fair trial, correct?
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He thinks the songs need to sound similar.
I don't think he's aware you can take someone's lyrical content and even music and make it sound totally different but still be guilty of plagarism - Even though in this case she wasn't.
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Not this nobody having the nerve to call DJ White Shadow a wannabe
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
I said in here, meaning this thread.
Do you have an example pertaining to this thread?
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It doesn't matter if it's in this thread or elsewhere. The bottom line is you did insult me personally.
You're no different than anyone else on this forum so don't act like you're above us.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
He thinks the songs need to sound similar.
I don't think he's aware you can take someone's lyrical content and even music and make it sound totally different but still be guilty of plagarism - Even though in this case she wasn't.
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How are their lyrical content similar? Can you point out the similarities?
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
It doesn't matter if it's in this thread or elsewhere. The bottom line is you did insult me personally.
You're no different than anyone else on this forum so don't act like you're above us.
How are their lyrical content similar? Can you point out the similarities?
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Drag ha passive-aggressive butt.
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
It doesn't matter if it's in this thread or elsewhere. The bottom line is you did insult me personally.
You're no different than anyone else on this forum so don't act like you're above us.
How are their lyrical content similar? Can you point out the similarities?
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our choruses are nearly identical (I repeat “Juda Juda Juda Juda Juda” over and over and she repeats “Juda, Juda-us, Juda, Juda-us, Juda, Juda-us” over and over), accounting for roughly 20% of each song
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So, let me ask you the question again
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Let's say you, PRiNCE HiGH, wrote a song that was unusual. Let's say your lyrics are "Slippy ippy i i i ippy. Slippy ipp ippy" and years later a song with similar lyrics came out and your ex, who has the original workings of the song, worked with this artist.
Would you not find something fishy? Would you not think that you were stolen from? I personally feel that Rebecca was justified in suing, given the circumstances of similarity and the ex-factor.
You would want more than 1 judge to decide the case right? You would want a jury to deliberate right? You would want a fair trial, correct?
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
He thinks the songs need to sound similar.
I don't think he's aware you can take someone's lyrical content and even music and make it sound totally different but still be guilty of plagarism - Even though in this case she wasn't.
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From the case:
Federal Judge Marvin Aspen dismissed the lawsuit "We agree with Defendants that the songs do not have common lyrics, the themes are different, and they do not sound at all alike musically." “Thus, we find the similarity of expression to be, quite clearly, ‘totally lacking.’
I have read the documents, they are to be found online and contain for example statements from people in the industry and people that have dealt with it before to judge the 2 songs.
That means composers, producers, a lawyers that has had a similar case and if my memory serves me correctly someone from a record label. Sadly I do not recall their position and they all came to the same verdict that helped this judge to come to this dismissal.
It’s case closed really, she needs to take her loss.
The sealed documents are totally unrelated to her trial anyway so I am not sure why she’s dragging this in.
I have no problem with admitting if Gaga would be in the wrong, that’s why I spent hours reading those court documents myself.
Besides the sealing of documents is nothing strange in the first place. As stated by Rebecca as well. Gaga and everything that is involved with her is like a company or a brand.
You really think all major companies have all their court files available to the people? Of course not and neither does Gaga have to have everything public if she wishes for certain files to be hidden.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
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So, let me ask you the question again
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For the simple fact that Gaga is known for repeating the title over and over again in her songs. (po-po-po-poker face). I doubt she knew (when she did the song) or knows about this Rebecca girl anymore, therefore you're biased.
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Originally posted by Darkroth
For the simple fact that Gaga is known for repeating the title over and over again in her songs. (po-po-po-poker face). I doubt she knew (when she did the song) or knows about this Rebecca girl anymore, therefore you're biased. |
Even tho Rebecca's ex worked with the people that Made Judas?
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Originally posted by GypsyLife
From the case:
Federal Judge Marvin Aspen dismissed the lawsuit "We agree with Defendants that the songs do not have common lyrics, the themes are different, and they do not sound at all alike musically." “Thus, we find the similarity of expression to be, quite clearly, ‘totally lacking.’
I have read the documents, they are to be found online and contain for example statements from people in the industry and people that have dealt with it before to judge the 2 songs.
That means composers, producers, a lawyers that has had a similar case and if my memory serves me correctly someone from a record label. Sadly I do not recall their position and they all came to the same verdict that helped this judge to come to this dismissal.
It’s case closed really, she needs to take her loss.
The sealed documents are totally unrelated to her trial anyway so I am not sure why she’s dragging this in.
I have no problem with admitting if Gaga would be in the wrong, that’s why I spent hours reading those court documents myself.
Besides the sealing of documents is nothing strange in the first place. As stated by Rebecca as well. Gaga and everything that is involved with her is like a company or a brand.
You really think all major companies have all their court files available to the people? Of course not and neither does Gaga have to have everything public if she wishes for certain files to be hidden.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
Even tho Rebecca's ex worked with the people that Made Judas?
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btw, RedOne made Judas, and Gaga wrote the lyrics, and i really doubt she knew about Rebecca when she wrote it for the fact that she is completely repeating the titles all over again in her songs
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Darklorde can you please explain how DJWS is related to this if he did 0 work on the song? Or is Rebecca F. just lying now that she lost and still making excuses for her case? Can we trust anything she wrote? 
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What sort of self-serving tripe. Enjoy coughing up $1.3 million, perhaps trying to bash Gaga will make you feel better signing the check.
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