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Discussion: Why is ARTPOP called ARTPOP when it's not Art Pop?
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Understanding the Artpop is not a simple matter of interpreting the language at face value and discerning a plausible conclusion based on that alone. It requires a deeper analysis of the metaphysical elements of the composition of the lyrics, understanding the complex ways in which the continua of art and pop interact with the inner machinations of the human condition in order to unveil the true, raw meaning of the words that she sings. You cannot simply hear or read the lyrics and expect to immediately understand them. Undeniably, you must feel them, live them and experience how the time and effort put into the song's construction in order to unveil the song's esoteric meaning. Once you're able to truly grasp the concept of how she represents the unspoken opposition between these two levels of interpretation, then you'll truly understand the meaning of ARTPOP.
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I know that Mom and Dad think I'm a mess
But it's alright, because
I am rich as piss.
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Understanding the Artpop is not a simple matter of interpreting the language at face value and discerning a plausible conclusion based on that alone. It requires a deeper analysis of the metaphysical elements of the composition of the lyrics, understanding the complex ways in which the continua of art and pop interact with the inner machinations of the human condition in order to unveil the true, raw meaning of the words that she sings. You cannot simply hear or read the lyrics and expect to immediately understand them. Undeniably, you must feel them, live them and experience how the time and effort put into the song's construction in order to unveil the song's esoteric meaning. Once you're able to truly grasp the concept of how she represents the unspoken opposition between these two levels of interpretation, then you'll truly understand the meaning of ARTPOP.
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Because it's not named after the genre obviously, but after the Pop Art movement, or rather its reversion. A reverse Warholian experience as it was stated infamously at the start of the album cycle. Instead of putting pop culture in art (as it often is the case with Pop Art), she tried to put art in pop culture and she partially succeeded by referencing several famous artists and pieces during the era, be it in the videos, the fashion or even the music. It's not that hard to get really.
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Originally posted by Schhh
I know that Mom and Dad think I'm a mess
But it's alright, because
I am rich as piss.
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You cannot simply hear or read the lyrics and expect to immediately understand them. Undeniably, you must feel them, live them and experience how the time and effort put into the song's construction in order to unveil the song's esoteric meaning.
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Originally posted by Onion Girl
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
what should we call it ? you go first
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anything without the word ART. its like calling a clothing line "Fashion", or a perfume "Scent".  obviously music is ART but you don't have to point it out  Most of the track titles would have made better names for the album than ARTPOP tbh.
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Originally posted by Anubis
Interesting, never thought of it this way.
But I'm afraid it may be beyond me so can you please deconstruct the true meaning behind this Artpop track?
"Donatella"
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Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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Originally posted by Onion Girl
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Originally posted by Onion Girl
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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I am DONE!
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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Gaga called her album ARTPOP because she wanted to call her album ARTPOP.
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yall its too early for this
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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Tell em
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It's a gimmick
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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ART.
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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Tbh
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Originally posted by Phil
Stop trying to drag her. This definition of Art pop has nothing to do with Candy Warhol and his Pop Art movement. Gaga's ARTPOP is a reverse Warholian experience and that's why she inverted the position of the words art and pop.
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The Freudian slip.
Teenage Dream era is inspired by the Pop Art movement.
A long explanation: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.ph...09829#17009829
Gaga had to be the opposite of that and reserved the words.
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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Originally posted by MaryJaneHolland
Gladly. Donatella is a modern Shakespearean tragedy about the misconstructions and misconceptions of fashion icons in contemporary society. There are two distinct levels of esoteric interpretation in Donatella which interact within the nexus of art and pop in order to portray an image of a woman who is constantly writhing between the values of fashion, vanity and humanity. In a generalised sense, the song deals with the appropriation of social misconception and the transformation of this character adulteration into a sense of self empowerment and personal strength in a climate of negativity and hate. At first, the song may seem like a scathing criticism of Donatella Versace, with lyrics such as "I'm blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch" establishing an abrasive, cold persona that is commonly linked to the archetypical celebrity. However, would you critic Donatella Versace if yourself were not Donatella Versace? Clearly, Lady Gaga is not Donatella Versace, and therefore she does not critic Donatella Versace. A deeper interpretation of the lyrics which tangles with the metaphysical interface of art and pop involves the introspective metamorphosis of negative misconception into a message of empowerment, harnessing the power of misrepresentation and allowing it to manifest itself as a being that exists beyond the rancourous exaggeration of the blonde celebrity stereotype- a woman who radiates her magic even though she's misunderstood. Donatella. Voodoo voodoo. Voo-don-na-na. ARTPOP.
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I'm in class don't do this to me
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