[Instant]

Why would Live Nation bring the tour there if it was doing that bad?

[Shelter]

Originally posted by Instant

Why would Live Nation bring the tour there if it was doing that bad?

Her last tour there did really well.

[Instant]

Originally posted by Shelter

Her last tour there did really well.

Yeah but they had many reasons to cancel ArtRave dates in Australia when ticket sales started

[jhonyguy04]

Why are ppl surprised about Australia? ARTPOP was a big commercial failure there.

[Shelter]

Originally posted by Instant

Yeah but they had many reasons to cancel ArtRave dates in Australia when ticket sales started

That would look bad and i doubt she would cancel on her fans.

[Bang Up]

Haters: Lady Gaga is a flop.
Gaga: *flops*
Haters: Wow, I expected her to do more.



I mean, at least she has a reason to underperform in AUS. since they didn't use ARTPOP. Truly tragic would be failing to sell out in a country where you had a massive hit just a few months prior.

Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr

I'm confused. How can the shows be sold out if the attendance is 'only' 6,000 ? It's pretty obvious an arena can not be sold out with 'only' 6,000 people.
And why is the gross good when the attendance is bad? .

Wasn't it an outdoor arena, so like a festival? It doesn't hold the amount an indoor arena does.

[Reaper]

Wow tragic numbers in Australia

[BlondUnicorn]

Originally posted by Bang Up

Haters: Lady Gaga is a flop.
Gaga: *flops*
Haters: Wow, I expected her to do more.



I mean, at least she has a reason to underperform in AUS. since they didn't use ARTPOP. Truly tragic would be failing to sell out in a country where you had a massive hit just a few months prior.

Exactly. Let's remember that not even Applause hit top 10 there.

Stateline looks amazing on the other hand, though. Great gross for such a small venue.

[puffpuffpass626]

Originally posted by Instant

Yeah but they had many reasons to cancel ArtRave dates in Australia when ticket sales started

Maybe thats why they wanted her to scale down the sets but she insisted to keep it the same....they definitely lost money

[bey0nce]

Originally posted by Jolie's Lips

Are these Pollstar receipts? Because they tend to be really off (see: Diamonds World Tour when they made it seem as though the tour was flopping only for the tour to end up grossing $150 million).

Pollstar reported the entire On the Run Tour before Billboard and every attendance was identical, the only difference was a minor change in gross for the Canadian shows (Canadian dollar / US dollar)

They are reliable, they just make occasional errors. And with the Diamonds World Tour they said Rihanna's team was not cooperating in handing over the figures for whatever reason (the mid year chart thing) and all was fixed by the year end chart

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚

But how can she gross almost 1M with 6k people and 800k with 5k people. Doesn't make sense at ALL.

What doesnt make sense? Australia is one of the biggest touring markets and charge the highest average ticket price per continent besides Asia for Gaga. Bey grossed $2.5M per show in Perth, it's also one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in. Dunno why people are dragging yes the attendance is bad but the gross is great when compared to the attendance

edit: wait I was looking at the stateline gross

[Bang Up]

Originally posted by puffpuffpass626

Maybe thats why they wanted her to scale down the sets but she insisted to keep it the same....they definitely lost money

LiveNation would never let an artist play if they weren't making money. That's not how business works.

[Dr.Cake]

The Stateline boxscore seems pretty reliable to me.
That was the smallest venue of the entire US Leg, yet it still grossed 1M. It would be amazing if true.

The Perth one, on the other hand, is just disastruos, but it also seems a bit off to be honest,
For that particular show (that had a 13k capacity) they curtained off the back of the arena, so I doubt that the back of the arena can take off about 7k seats, considering the pictures we got for the concert show a pretty packed arena on the first two levels.

[Dr.Cake]

What I am pissed about is why wont BB release the damn boxcores for all the US shows?
There are also so many shows to report (mostly great ones), why wont Pollstar release them, but instead always releases those really bad ones.

[bey0nce]

Originally posted by Dr.Cake

What I am pissed about is why wont BB release the damn boxcores for all the US shows?
There are also so many shows to report (mostly great ones), why wont Pollstar release them, but instead always releases those really bad ones.

They 100% will release them, especially since Live Nation are promoting they will report every show. I'd expect soon all of the US, Aus an Asia leg to come at once. Sometimes they wait so that artists can top BB Boxscore, so if another artist is reporting also with big #'s they may wait another week so she can be right at the top with the Tokyo shows maybe

[BlondUnicorn]

Originally posted by Dr.Cake

What I am pissed about is why wont BB release the damn boxcores for all the US shows?
There are also so many shows to report (mostly great ones), why wont Pollstar release them, but instead always releases those really bad ones.

I've noticed this too. Why not Toronto, Chicago, Boston or LA?
Also why not the Tokyo shows instead of any Australian one?

[Chris▲]

Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi

These are Pollstar numbers judging by the graphics. They are always a mess. They confirmed me in my emails last year that they didn't have any resource from Rihanna's team and they were just taking guesses. Plus 6k people, with 1 million dollars gross is way off. You have artists with 28k attendance who get the 1 million gross. Was the average ticket price 170 dollars?

Actually yeah the average prices for that show were $170, that's why it was so high, but Perth doesn't make sense at all.

[Jolie's Lips]

OK I can't stop pretending, the decline in tour gross is just PATHETIC.

[NX127]

Australia

Hope this does over 100m

[Kayzan]

OMG, 6k and 5k

[Dr.Cake]

Originally posted by Kayzan

OMG, 6k and 5k

The 6k (which is actually almost 7k) is the real capacity of the venue.
Please document yourself before coming in here (once again) and trying to make a fuss about it.



This is the Harveys Outdoor Arena, an amazing venue Lady Gaga wanted to play and the smallest venue of the entire North American leg (it can usually fit about 6,2k people, yet Gaga played for 7k (-17) people) and grossed $1M from only 7k people.

I agree on the Perth show (if the receipts are true), but it's no news to no one that Gaga struggled in Australia and that her album and singles didn't sell there.