[Abyssy]

Originally posted by Honeyßéy

Beyonce fans buy albums tho, that's what you don't get.
Not too the mention the album has been in the media & talked about
every since it's surprised release. People aren't going to her
tours to listen to her old sh*t. So like I said before please stop.

I do get it, that's exactly what I just said. Her fans will enjoy it but the rest of the people watching won't know most of the songs.

I know it has, it has received a lot of attention, no one is denying that. People are obviously going to her tour to hear a mix of her hits and her newer songs. No one except a hardcore stan would go just to hear her new album and nothing else.

[konaa]

Originally posted by Venom☥

Most of them haven't though, let's be real. Everyone has heard OF the album, it was big news. But not everyone has actually heard the album.

Lol, okay.

And goodbye at you thinking it did much more for feminism than causing feminists to squabble amongst each other whether she was over-sexualising herself or not.

Which is exactly what I said to a t.

catapulted feminism into mainstream media and spurred thousands of conversations

[Honeyßéy]

Originally posted by Venom☥

I do get it, that's exactly what I just said. Her fans will enjoy it but the rest of the people watching won't know most of the songs.

I know it has, it has received a lot of attention, no one is denying that. People are obviously going to her tour to hear a mix of her hits and her newer songs. No one except a hardcore stan would go just to hear her new album and nothing else.

who are you to say, who has & who hasn't heard the album.
You say 'XO' & 'DIL' will only be known because the televised performances
and it's certs, and yet the entire album is 2x platinum.... you make no sense.
So you telling me, the 2M people who bought the album are only listening
to 'XO' & 'DIL'.

[UnusualBoy]

I think she will only perform the singles form the visual album, XO, DIL, Partitition, PH & ***Flawless.

[Superpower]

Originally posted by Venom☥

I do get it, that's exactly what I just said. Her fans will enjoy it but the rest of the people watching won't know most of the songs.

Isn't that what matters though? Her fans?! Haters won't buy the album anyway. They've heard about it and didn't.
This will allow people who were on the fence of buying the album to get a taste of the visuals before buying it.
And you don't have to know the song performed to enjoy the spectacle. If you can't enjoy a live performance because you can't sing the song, then Im sorry for you.
And the same thing could be said about every artist performing.
BANG BANG has only sold 500K.
Usher has sold less than that. Same with Maroon 5 and everybody else. When you think about it, BEYONCÉ songs are more known than the songs that will be performed tomorrow night.

[Abyssy]

Originally posted by konaa

Lol, okay.



Which is exactly what I said to a t.

Yes, conversations AMONGST feminists, nobody else really bothered, certainly not the GP.

Originally posted by Honeyßéy

who are you to say, who has & who hasn't heard the album.
You say 'XO' & 'DIL' will only be known because the televised performances
and it's certs, and yet the entire album is 2x platinum.... you make no sense.
So you telling me, the 2M people who bought the album are only listening
to 'XO' & 'DIL'.

No, I'm saying her fans will obviously know the songs but people who aren't fans or don't keep up to date with her music as much won't. There will obliviously be more than 2 million people watching and even then, not all 2 million who bought the album will be watching. So there will be plenty of people who know who Beyoncé is - and her older singles - but won't know her new album tracks.

Originally posted by Superpower

Isn't that what matters though? Her fans?! Haters won't buy the album anyway. They've heard about it and didn't.
This will allow people who were on the fence of buying the album to get a taste of the visuals before buying it.
And you don't have to know the song performed to enjoy the spectacle. If you can't enjoy a live performance because you can't sing the song, then Im sorry for you.
And the same thing could be said about every artist performing.
BANG BANG has only sold 500K.
Usher has sold less than that. Same with Maroon 5 and everybody else. When you think about it, BEYONCÉ songs are more known than the songs that will be performed tomorrow night.

Of course fans are important but it isn't a tour and people aren't just tuning in for an intimate gig with Beyoncé, it's an entertainment show and people want to be entertained. Not everyone who isn't a fan is a 'hater', there'll be lots of people who like her more popular stuff and want to see her performing the hits they know. Just because they didn't buy the new album or don't follow her every move doesn't mean they dislike her.

You can still enjoy it, but I don't believe you can enjoy it as much if you aren't familiar with the song. And people will WANT to hear here perform her bigger hits.

Yes but those songs are official singles, have music videos (or are coming), have been promoted and have been released to radio. That's a bit different than an album track.

[Walley]

Originally posted by Superpower

Isn't that what matters though? Her fans?! Haters won't buy the album anyway. They've heard about it and didn't.
This will allow people who were on the fence of buying the album to get a taste of the visuals before buying it.
And you don't have to know the song performed to enjoy the spectacle. If you can't enjoy a live performance because you can't sing the song, then Im sorry for you.
And the same thing could be said about every artist performing.
BANG BANG has only sold 500K.
Usher has sold less than that. Same with Maroon 5 and everybody else. When you think about it, BEYONCÉ songs are more known than the songs that will be performed tomorrow night.

And this is why I say the hive are the most intelligent stanbase. People really don't think when they make assumptions about Beyoncé and they end up looking like fools in the end. Every song on Beyoncé is more known by the GP than nearly every song being performed tomorrow night. So if someone has a problem with her performing the album, then they should have a problem with all the performances. And isn't the point of a televised performance to get more people to hear your music? The fans already have it and went to the concert, so it's the people who haven't heard it that should be watching.

And lets be real here, unlike most of the big artists today, Beyoncé has never had a performance that was panned by critics and tomorrow won't change that. Even when most publications were saying her Drunk In Love Grammy's performance was too raunchy, they still praised her. Beyoncé always wins so the haters are just wasting their time coming up with all these stupid excuses for why her performance won't be good enough.

[DIVO DIVINE]

The objective with BEYONCÉ was to get people to consume the project in it's entirety so I see why she's doing this. She wants to expose people to every song, so they'll be interested in buying the album if they haven't already. I think this will have a great impact on sales if it's as legendary as MTV is anticipating.

[Subomie]

Originally posted by Walley

And this is why I say the hive are the most intelligent stanbase.

And lets be real hear

[AVIB]

People don't know the songs so it won't be a hit. It's going to be a bore to the people that have not heard the album.

Lol didn't Beyoncé perform Deja Vu three days after it was released, as the opener of an award show? Didn't it become a hit just afterwards. Isn't still raved as one of the best BET performances? I'm sure that every viewer that night did not get to hear that song in the 72 hours before her performance.

It's not about knowing or not knowing a song (album). It is about the execution. And we all know Beyoncé puts on a show.

[Boomer]

Originally posted by Walley

And lets be real hear, unlike most of the big artists today, Beyoncé has never had a performance that was panned by critics and tomorrow won't change that. Even when most publications were saying her Drunk In Love Grammy's performance was too raunchy, they still praised her. Beyoncé always wins so the haters are just wasting their time coming up with all these stupid excuses for why her performance won't be good enough.

[Abyssy]

Originally posted by Subomie

[jane]

Wait.

She shouldn't perform all new songs because people wont know them? didnt she sold 2M copies IN THE US? those people wont know the songs either? c'mon now! Let's not even talk about those who bought the album illegally.

Also, isn't every artist performing at the VMAs performing new songs?

[JCON]

Déjà Vu
Such an underrated bop!

[Walley]

Originally posted by Venom☥

Of course y'all will stick with a grammar mistake because you have no other way to answer my post and validate your stupid assumptions about her performance. Typical unintelligent haters.

[Honeyßéy]

Originally posted by jane

Wait.

She shouldn't perform all new songs because people wont know them? didnt she sold 2M copies IN THE US? those people wont know the songs either? c'mon now! Let's not even talk about those who bought the album illegally.

Also, isn't every artist performing at the VMAs performing new songs?

!!!!!

Was the point I was trying to get across.
How many artists premiere NEW singles @ award shows every year...

[Abyssy]

Originally posted by Walley

Of course y'all will stick with a grammar mistake because you have no other way to answer my post and validate your stupid assumptions about her performance. Typical unintelligent haters.

Your post was lies though.

Originally posted by Walley

Every song on Beyoncé is more known by the GP than nearly every song being performed tomorrow night.

Like what kind of delusion? . That is NOT true.
Most of the songs listed that will be performed, outpeaked every Bey single minus Drunk in Love this era. How are they less known than some album tracks?

And she has had bad performances before, literally every singer has. That's a ridiculous thing to say.

[Honeyßéy]

Originally posted by Venom☥

Yes, conversations AMONGST feminists, nobody else really bothered, certainly not the GP.



No, I'm saying her fans will obviously know the songs but people who aren't fans or don't keep up to date with her music as much won't. There will obliviously be more than 2 million people watching and even then, not all 2 million who bought the album will be watching. So there will be plenty of people who know who Beyoncé is - and her older singles - but won't know her new album tracks.

No, I'm saying her fans will obviously know the songs but people who aren't fans or don't keep up to date with her music as much won't

That can be said for the other artists who are performing new singles too.
I haven't checked whose all performing, but I'm sure Beyonce is the biggest act that is attending the VMAs, and not too mention all of the people who illegally downloaded the album.

I agree everyone is NOT gonna know every song, but too say that people will only know
2 songs is blasphemy

[Espresso]

There's at LEAST 7 reportable posts in this messy thread...I'm surprised the Hive (and other bases) haven't pounced

That being said, it'll be interesting to see how this translates (or perhaps doesn't). IMO.

[materialboy]

If she doesnt perform Lose Your Breath,Survivor or Say My Name with DC SHe can perform only the singles from BEYONCE.