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News: ISIS behead US Journalist
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Originally posted by Goosey
That's what I'm asking, what should the Iraqis and Syrians be doing?
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I think the best thing they can do is to form a civilian army (like the Free Syrian Army) and attempt to fight ISIS and push them back.
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Doing nothing in the face of injustice and abuse never the answer. BUT, the US doesn't have to get involved with everything. With our economy the way it is there has to be a break in our "let's police the world" mentality.
What we need to do is focus more on helping build these local governments so that they can defend their own lands from the terrorists. We keep sending our soldiers to war to fight a battle that, and this is just IMO, doesn't need to be fought by us. I have to ask, what are other countries doing to assist in these matters?
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Originally posted by KangBey
I hate to break it to you, but there were probably over 1 billion lives lost do to the Atlantic slave trade. No one is trying to make Hitler out to be nice, just stating a fact that more lives were lost in the 400yrs of the Atlantic slave trade. You can't compare a 6 or 7yr war, to 400yrs of murder and mayhem.
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The entire World's population only hit 1 billion in total in 1804. Can you please cite a source that claims over a billion lives were lost during the slave trade?
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
With our economy the way it is there has to be a break in our "let's police the world" mentality.
We keep sending our soldiers to war to fight a battle that, and this is just IMO, doesn't need to be fought by us.
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This.
The US acts as if they are world police. They shouldn't.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by KangBey
I hate to break it to you, but there were probably over 1 billion lives lost do to the Atlantic slave trade. No one is trying to make Hitler out to be nice, just stating a fact that more lives were lost in the 400yrs of the Atlantic slave trade. You can't compare a 6 or 7yr war, to 400yrs of murder and mayhem.
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I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Over 10 million died as direct consequences of the Atlantic slave trade alone. But no one knows the exact number: Many died in transport, others died from diseases or indirectly from the social trauma left behind in Africa. Not only was Transatlantic Slavery of demographic significance, in the aggregate population losses but also in the profound changes to settlement patterns, epidemiological exposure and reproductive and social development potential. And perhaps one profound difference between Arab and European, compared with internal slavery systems was that Africa's development potential was being experienced outside of Africa, as opposed to inside Africa. And this fact alone had profound economic consequences
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I hope bestgore uploads it soon. |
I can't believe some of you want to watch it so badly.
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Originally posted by alexanderao
This.
The US acts as if they are world police. They shouldn't.
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We're suffering explicitly from this mentality. I mean, I don't even know why we still have military bases in places like Germany and Japan. Billions of dollars wasted for what exactly?
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
We're suffering explicitly from this mentality. I mean, I don't even know why we still have military bases in places like Germany and Japan. Billions of dollars wasted for what exactly?
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Protection from and monitoring of the Soviets on each side (and also I guess to warn if Japan or Germany tries any WW3 shenanigans?)
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 this is awful
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
We're suffering explicitly from this mentality. I mean, I don't even know why we still have military bases in places like Germany and Japan. Billions of dollars wasted for what exactly?
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It makes absolutely no sense to me 
It's the same thing with Crimea. The US getting involved there is just 
Let's try and relax and be peaceful instead of trying to control everybody. 
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Originally posted by Goosey
Protection from and monitoring of the Soviets on each side (and also I guess to warn if Japan or Germany tries any WW3 shenanigans?)
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Why are we the only country responsible for this though? It makes no sense. It's costing us billions each year to monitor countries that we owe billions of dollars to. It's senseless. Let some of the other countries get some of this action. France, the UK, Australia...
I also don't need to point out that we have military bases in London, Africa, and one of the Koreas.
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I watched the video and saw a pic of his body and head on reddit. It's so sad 
They always use such a tiny knife too 
I don't even know what to say tbh. I just feel sorry for him and all the pain he had to go through
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
I also don't need to point out that we have military bases in London, Africa, and one of the Koreas.
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Well, North Korea is a big threat to the South, so we need a base in South Korea since they coordinate with Americans.
Africa we need a base for humanitarian purposes and anti-terrorism, we can't just commandeer civilian homes for troops.
As for London... well, they attacked America before, that's how America was founded!
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This is SO upsetting.
May his soul rest in peace.
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Originally posted by accelgors
wow. you go on this page of a serious barbaric and tragic act just to argue about which horrible thing is "worse"? who gives a crap which one is worse when they're both pretty much the most cruel and awful things to happen in the past 500 years? why would you ever even compare them? all that does is minimize the holocaust which is one of the most offensive and disrespectful things you could possibly do. jesus christ
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You are jumping into a discussion or semi debate between myself and another member, sit down and know wtf you are talking about before you dip in. You need to take your own advice, you are minimizing 400yrs of murder and mayhem that occurred during slavery. Imo that is one the most offensive and disrespectful thing you could possibly do, Jesus Christ!!! You are dismissed into a stadium full of seats.
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This is awful and tragic. And the terrorist wants you all to watch the video, it gives them strenght. Do not watch it. May he rest in peace.
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RIP
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awful
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Originally posted by rbautz
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Some historians have estimated that over 100 million lives were lost during the Atlantic slave trade. There is no way on earth only 10 million slaves died during the course of 400yrs, I don't think you understand what 400yrs means. You are quoting a white washed revisionist history version of estimates, of course white historians will try to diminish and underestimate the amount of lives lost during the Atlantic slave trade. You are pulling that 50-70 million out of your butt, only roughly 11 million died during the most publicized by the mainstream media holocaust.
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In total, of the approximately 11 million people were killed during the Holocaust, over 1 million were children. Of the nine million Jews who had resided in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.
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During the Slave Trade almost ONE HUNDRED MILLION slaves lost their lives. That's not something they'll teach you in school but they'll take you to the movies to see "Schindler's List". When was the last time a school took students to the movies to see "Roots"? If "Roots" is too old then take them to see "Amistad". Did you know that around ONE BILLION slaves lost their lives during colonization(slavery) in America? Mr. or Mrs. All American school teacher is not going to drop those numbers on you. They never give you those statistics during Black History month which is the shortest and one of the coldest months of the year. These are things we need to know. Just to clear this up, we here at The Hidden Truth do not take away from what happen to the Jews in Germany, Poland and where ever else. That was an atrocious and demonic act that no race or nationality should have had to endure. We have suffered a mass amount of deaths in the past and we are currently suffering from a mass amount of deaths as a race. The true number of our continued genocide will never be known because of media black out, abortion, and other distortions of the truth. The one question that we should ask ourselves and the government-Why are we being denied the facts?
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http://glithehiddentruth.weebly.com/...ave-trade.html
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Doing nothing in the face of injustice and abuse never the answer. BUT, the US doesn't have to get involved with everything. With our economy the way it is there has to be a break in our "let's police the world" mentality.
What we need to do is focus more on helping build these local governments so that they can defend their own lands from the terrorists. We keep sending our soldiers to war to fight a battle that, and this is just IMO, doesn't need to be fought by us. I have to ask, what are other countries doing to assist in these matters?
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Unfortunately, it was largely down to the US invading the region that destabilised it to this degree in the first place. That's why our troops stayed so long, in hope that we could sufficiently train their security forces to look after themselves.
The US have a responsibility here, tbh. As do the UK, though, I'm not pointing fingers.
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