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Music News: Record industry considering a global release date
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Originally posted by satellites.™
AOTY indeed.
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Forever iconic now, to be honest. Especially if this happens.
A Friday release for all albums will lead to more interesting album chart runs. 
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Originally posted by iHype.
Gimme receipts of piracy as whole then and we can work out the losses!  |
Those don't exist because most sources of piracy would rather not out themselves, so I gave you the fact that piracy is estimated to constitute over 90% of digital media consumption in general.
Now, let's also talk about the fact that if we're considering a hypothetical streaming-centric market where physical sales tank altogether, then different release dates in different countries actually makes literally zero sense if the files can be delivered globally ( edit: to streaming services and subsequently their users!) with a simple click without any adverse economic impact. "I mean, the globalization of the industry including release dates would probably be commercially beneficial to everyone, but let's just stick to our old fashioned territorial release patterns I guess because ****, why not?"
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Originally posted by YR.
Let me get that hit thread tho. Bey blesses my life everyday
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Mine also.
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Originally posted by 4AM.
Those don't exist because most sources of piracy would rather not out themselves, so I gave you the fact that piracy is estimated to constitute over 90% of digital media consumption in general.
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Oh so basically -- you're saying piracy will continue to be huge despite having no numbers, and also inserting an estimation? 
& @ the 2nd part -- piracy becoming stronger with more digital use is 100x less realistic then piracy becoming weaker with the use of Streaming being a free source to begin with.
Ask anyone and it's 10x more likely they've cut down / fully stopped pirating due to Streaming services; rather than did it even more.
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This is an amazing idea. It will mean the entire world will be awaiting an album the same day.
As far as Beyonce, I think she is the perfect example of how this can be a huge success. She topped iTunes in literally every country when the album dropped (111 countries), conveying that the entire world was excited about the release, making it a WW event.
When albums drops different times throughout the week, it can cause for leaked versions, etc. I also like Friday to Friday. People can buy the music to enjoy throughout the weekend.
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I wonder how this will affect where artist will promote their music... They'll all be in the US during release day?
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Originally posted by iHype.
Oh so basically -- you're saying piracy will continue to be huge despite having no numbers, and also inserting an estimation?
& @ the 2nd part -- piracy becoming stronger with more digital use is 100x less realistic then piracy becoming weaker with the use of Streaming being a free source to begin with.
Ask anyone and it's 10x more likely they've cut down / fully stopped pirating due to Streaming services; rather than did it even more.
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I feel like you didn't actually read the second part of that post because that part had nothing to do with piracy.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by 4AM.
I feel like you didn't actually read the second part of that post because that part had nothing to do with piracy.
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then different release dates in different countries actually makes literally zero sense if the files can be delivered globally with a simple click without any adverse economic impact.
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You said files could be delivered globally. When you mention files being delivered it's usually referred to as piracy, so yeah, that's why I thought you were talking about piracy!
As I said,
It's 10x more likely a person massively haults / 100% haults their illegal downloading with Streaming services, rather than uses it even more.
Can we discuss that, or are you gonna make EVERY post about something in your previous post not being discussed / discussed properly? 
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Originally posted by Superpower
You're not following the discussion. This isn't about Bey's longevity. Besides who needs longevity when when your frontloaded album has outsold those with "longevity"?
And there won't be any shock. When they implement this new system, we are expecting artists to do the same thing they are doing right now: announce release date and promote before the album drops. When the album is released everywhere at the same time, it will create excitement and inclusiveness and will help fight piracy.
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Like everyone else was saying in the last pages, let's just leave Beyonce out of this discussion. Only her fans see this related to her, and I'm not saying it to shade or anything, this just is not about her.
But in another comment you said that this was the right punch for the music industry and I agree, this could be a way to make albums sell more for a few more years. I think that labels should in the future just forget about selling digital, adding some value to streaming and profit big time from it. That's the only way I see them keeping up!
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Originally posted by iHype.
You said files could be delivered globally. When you mention files being delivered it's usually referred to as piracy, so yeah, that's why I thought you were talking about piracy!
As I said,
It's 10x more likely a person massively haults / 100% haults their illegal downloading with Streaming services, rather than uses it even more.
Can we discuss that, or are you gonna make EVERY post about something in your previous post not being discussed / discussed properly?
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I think you're only right in that they stop downloading illegally once the song they want is actually on their service, and I think they'd download it early if they could get it free on Mediafire or a .to site. I've already stated that assertion more than once. It's your fault if you want to continue discussing hypotheticals while cherry picking which parts of my posts to actually address. 
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I don't see the difference it would make.
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Originally posted by 4AM.
I think you're only right in that they stop downloading illegally once the song they want is actually on their service, and I think they'd download it early if they could get it free on Mediafire or a .to site. I've already stated that assertion more than once. It's your fault if you want to continue discussing hypotheticals while cherry picking which parts of my posts to actually address. |
Downloading early is something ONLY stans do. The public as a whole, not even a half, or an eighth is aware of a song during leak.
100,000 downloads days before a release = to $20,000 loss TOTAL if each person listens 20 times overall.
It's really no loss. & this is for the HUGE singles. This isn't even accounting if piracy rates VAULT down as Streaming takes over.
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Originally posted by iHype.
Downloading early is something ONLY stans do. The public as a whole, not even a half, or an eighth is aware of a song during leak.
100,000 downloads days before a release = to $20,000 loss TOTAL if each person listens 20 times overall.
It's really no loss. & this is for the HUGE singles. This isn't even accounting if piracy rates VAULT down as Streaming takes over.
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But that's not something you can accurately state and you don't have concrete numbers to prove that apparently the GP doesn't hear/care about leaks. I don't buy it. I want receipts.
And on the other hand, there is, as I said, still no point to retaining staggered release dates, economically. Simultaneous global release (to streaming services as well as other retailers) makes just as much sense, if not more given that it's a step toward a globally unified music market.
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As long as music charts in various countries move their tracking weeks in accordance with this, I think it's a good idea. Although as the article mentioned, it does eliminate the opportunity to promote in more than one country on the release date in each country, since the release date would be the same for every country.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I've been waiting for something like that for a while. Hope it really happens 
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People saying it will destroy sales and longevity like wtf
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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Smart idea. But like said above, this will only help first-week sales and impulse purchases. Won't help longevity
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Originally posted by Squall
People saying it will destroy sales and longevity like wtf
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I know, it makes no sense 
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Originally posted by 4AM.
But that's not something you can accurately state and you don't have concrete numbers to prove that apparently the GP doesn't hear/care about leaks. I don't buy it. I want receipts.
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You don't need to be a stan to be aware of leaks or music as soon as it comes out. Any person who regularly browses the internet and enjoys listening to music will most likely know.
Stans are a very small part of fanbases anyway. IDK why people seem to think they fill up stadiums or are responsible for albums and singles going #1. Majority of that is thanks to the GP.
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