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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Well as I said I don't really want her releasing anything this yeah tbh but if it's gonna happen it's gonna happen, can't really stop it. She'll just have to accept that Taylor, Rih and Adele are going to overshadow her just like they did in 2012-13. But for the sake of keeping with the rumour that we may be getting something at the end of the month, I tried to set it up so that we would still get music this year, with the majority of the era happening in 2015. But yeah, I'll be the first to admit that it's a pretty bad era plan.
Her single may, and probably will, do well, but her album sales would certainly suffer. The industry's sales are already plummeting without having to go against two of the biggest album sellers that we still have (Taylor and Adele) and one of the biggest pop stars out there (Rih) who'll be in demand since she's coming off her first actual break since... the beginning of her career? Yeah. So it's even bigger competition than just Rih, Bruno and Taylor that she had in '12 and she still lost.
Either way I'm not all too fussed about the ~~success~~ of the era for bragging rights or whatever, I'm just more concerned about it because lack of success equals lack of interest in her and then there's less singles with videos and more waiting time. It's just no fun when an artist releases a good, fun album and nobody's here for it and it's managed poorly so it just kinda gets looked over. It's like you've waited for nothing. But as long as the music's good that's the main thing, I guess.
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All of this.
In a perfect world she would of released a single around March (following Timber's success) and then an album in May/June. Obviously due to mental health that wasn't possible - however as much as I want new music ASAP it would be best for her career if she began the era next year (or very late this year). That being said If she were to wait I would need one or two big collabs from (Calvin Harris, Zedd...) to keep her name out there from the end of RS to her lead single.
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I would like to thank the Hollywood
For the appraises assosation
And my dog Delicious
An my hamster gotta know the clova
And yoga teachers
My percentage of train expense
And of course all my fans!
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Oh my god I swear why do people even BOTHER with lyric websites these days.
You'd get a more accurate answer from Helen Keller.
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Oh yes a collab would be good. She could get an "I Need Your Love" or "Clarity" sized hit to lead into the era. Basically what "Timber" did, only strategically timed so that she'd be ready to release something right about when the song's popularity is peaking. Either that or the promo single idea I suggested. Nothing too fancy that could be lead single worthy, just a fun (probably shorter) track. Perhaps even an urban track to get people talking. Just something. 
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Originally posted by CroNich
All of this.
In a perfect world she would of released a single around March (following Timber's success) and then an album in May/June. Obviously due to mental health that wasn't possible - however as much as I want new music ASAP it would be best for her career if she began the era next year (or very late this year). That being said If she were to wait I would need one or two big collabs from (Calvin Harris, Zedd...) to keep her name out there from the end of RS to her lead single.
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Waiti agree this would be a disaster  Q115 it must be
Animals, hopeful they'll be and long they will wait 
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I kinda wish she'd pull a Gaga and just leak something and then blame it on FreeKeshaLuke so they'd get shut down. 
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Buzz singles would NOT work for Kesha in the way they worked for Taylor. No way. I mean look at the mess that was the 'Cannibal' release. 6/9 tracks we'd already heard before release. 
1 month seems way too short for album release though, don't y'all kinda think? Most singles don't even take off until around 2-3 weeks after initial release. At least 2 months. 2-3 is perfect.
And I think Kesha can get 100k opening week this time, at least. I mean Obviously I'd be hoping for more 250-300k for her sake but if Gaga can barely scrape that then Lorde knows Kesha won't touch that. 100k is far more likely for an act like Kesha. But, anything could happen with the RIGHT lead single, not just a HIT lead single... there's a difference. |
Due to the unpredictablity of the music world in 2014 she and her team need to be really clever and cautious about planning her next era. A song like Die Young would be lucky to have the success it would of back in 2012. Due to her likeable new image and the fact that the GP are starting to root for (on a general basis) with the right sound I think her success will (hopefully) shock some people. She really needs to capitalise on the whole retro sound that seems to be doing well; I mean you have a 60s inspired track at #1, plus a whole bunch of folk/country/jazz inspired tracks on the charts as well. There is no way she will get away with releasing a electro-pop track as her first single.
Whether or not she is working with Luke won't be an issue. Obviously everyone would love to see Kesha with more creative freedom and explore different producers but Luke does know how to adapt to the ever-changing music industry - and we can't rely fully on Kesha to make the right choices for singles (otherwise Dirty Love would of been the lead single from Warrior.) What I am trying to get at is that the first single is either going to make her or break her for this era and perhaps the rest of her career - no longer can she sell a song based on her name, it wil have to be on her sound and her image (her style/image has been on point lately so I am not worried about that).
I think if her first single was a country/hippy inspired dance track which showed off her uniqueness and powerful vocals as well as her traditional catchy sound that will definitely be well recieved by the GP and will more than likely see some (if not a lot of) success. I think this time around, in order to promote her album, she really needs to release a second single that shows off a COMPLETELY different side to Kesha, whilst still suiting the sound that is charting at the moment. I mean people are here for her, a lot more than they were back in 2011/12 and if she can demonstrate the actual talent she has whilst still creating fun and catchy songs I can see easily getting 100k+ in the first week. I don't think its realistic to expect a TD era in terms of success (for any of the pop girls anymore). However if she manages to get 3 or 4 top 10s with maybe one or two #1's plus go gold with the album - she will cement herself as a force in the pop world.
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Oh yes a collab would be good. She could get an "I Need Your Love" or "Clarity" sized hit to lead into the era. Basically what "Timber" did, only strategically timed so that she'd be ready to release something right about when the song's popularity is peaking. Either that or the promo single idea I suggested. Nothing too fancy that could be lead single worthy, just a fun (probably shorter) track. Perhaps even an urban track to get people talking. Just something. |
As much hate as this idea would get a think a perfect promo single would be an Avicii remix of Last Goodbye - keeping the same fun/folky sound just adding a bigger build and a dance break. I mean his sound (even though is on the way out) still slays and it will give her publicity at least.
I think if she manages to have a track of either Calvin or Zedd's album (which is plausible) then a single from them and a hype track will be more than enough to pull her over to 2015.
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I'm always here for "Last Goodbye" pulling a "Radar", though.
I think what this next era needs is more flexibility. That'll come with more creative control on Kesha's end though, I feel. The 'Warrior' era seemed very rigid... it was clear from the beginning that the plan was to release "Die Young" as the lead, "C'Mon" as the second single, "Crazy Kids" with will.i.am as the third single and "Supernatural" as the fourth single. When "C'Mon" under-performed as a promo single (only charted at #99 on the US charts - many promo singles chart within Top 40, or at least Top 80), instead of switching up the plan, Luke kept on with C'Mon. Same goes for Crazy Kids... even though it was clear after C'Mon that the sound they were aiming for wasn't clicking anymore, they persisted, which ultimately ended up cutting the era short. A lot of us were still rooting for "Supernatural" but I think, realistically speaking, it wouldn't have even gone Top 40 if it was released as the fourth single during that era, sadly. Kesha just didn't have the support.
I think that the lead single is definitely important, but it's not necessarily the make-or-break, if they are able to maintain a sense of flexibility. If the lead single tanks, there's no reason that the second single can't smash and save the era. It's happened many times on many different occasions.
But let's just take it one step at a time and hope that whatever she decides to release is received well from the get-go, PLUS it's not a basic generic song that is going to make Kesha lose any credibility she's gained with the GP as of late and not want to purchase her album as it'll be full of TiK ToK's and Die Young's.
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I really want Kesha to take this opportunity to really rebrand herself pretty seriously. This could create a huge comeback and she'd be able to create the pop music she wants
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Lord these essays. No thank you
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I just need Last Goobye to get the recognition it deserves.
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Lord these essays. No thank you
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It's okay, there's some big words in there that you might have struggled with too, save yourself the hassle. 
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A dual lead single could also work. One for the pop fans, one more experimental or personal track.
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Thanks for confirming that it would be a waste of time
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Originally posted by Kiss N Tell
Thanks for confirming that it would be a waste of time
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If I were you i'd take the time to read... you might actually learn something
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Originally posted by CroNich
If I were you i'd take the time to read... you might actually learn something
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the brain dead can learn?
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
the brain dead can learn?
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There's always hope
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Would you guys be here for a chainsmokers collab
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Originally posted by CroNich
Would you guys be here for a chainsmokers collab
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No
Maybe a remix of her lead or second single though. Their remix of timber isn't horrible
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Originally posted by Terre$uxx
No
Maybe a remix of her lead or second single though. Their remix of timber isn't horrible
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