That doesn't make sense, I'm from Europe, I do think it's interesting my country is starting to get fed up with Israel though
Also, it's impossible it was unclaimed land, all the land was already divided by the end of WWII, so saying there was no other country where Israel now is just ignorant. We studied the history of Israel + WWII, it was one of two topics for our final history exam
Oh yeah, so what's the name of the country that was here before Israel?
and don't tell me Palestine because Palestine was never a country.
Oh yeah, so what's the name of the land that was here before Israel?
and don't tell me Palestine because Palestine was never a country.
Ever since 1516 it was part of the Ottoman empire and since 1917 it was actually Palestine, owned by England and during the Conference of San Remo in 1920 it was actually officially named Palestine Maybe you should study your history before you start this discussion honey. Is your weave strong enough for more scalping and dragging?
Ever since 1516 it was part of the Ottoman empire and since 1917 it was actually Palestine, owned by England and during the Conference of San Remo in 1920 it was actually officially named Palestine Maybe you should study your history before you start this discussion honey. Is your weave strong enough for more scalping and dragging?
who cares if it was an official country?? the land was still traditionally theirs. it didn't need to be a country to be considered land associated with them
I promised myself not to comment on this subject anymore but the fact that some people are ready to say that there was no Palestine in the first place is absolutely ignorant and shows how brainwashed people are!!! Ignoring an entire nation that exist way before Israel is absolutely horrendous!
I'm ready for someone to start throwing israeli media to prove the non-existence of Palestine
The idea of someone saying there was no Palestine just cracks me up!
ARE YOU REALLY THAT BRAINWASHED!!!!!
Will be keeping those people in my prayers.
There never was a Palestinian people or a nation called Palestine. The Arabs invented the term after the fact. The so-called Palestinians lived mostly in Jordan and Syria. Yasser Arafat, the leader of the so-called "Palestinians," is actually an Egyptian!
Back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper "Trouw" published an interview it had with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. This is what he had to say:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
Moreover, a few facts you guys shall remember:
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1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.
5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter.
11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.
15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.
19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
The term "Palestine" came from the name that the conquering Roman Empire gave the ancient Land of Israel in an attempt to obliterate and de-legitimize the Jewish presence in the Holy Land. The Roman Procurator in charge of the Judean-Israel territories was so angry at the Jews for revolting that he called for his historians and asked them who were the worst enemies of the Jews in their past history. The scribes said, ‘the Philistines." So, the Procurator declared that Land of Israel would from then on be called "Philistia" [further bastardized into "Palaistina"] to dishonor the Jews and obliterate their history. Hence the name "Palestine." One more thing. Very often one hears the revisionists and propagandists finding ancient historical links between the "Philistines" and the Arab "Palestinians." There is no truth to this claim! The Philistines were one of a number of Sea Peoples who reached the eastern Mediterranean region approximately 1250-1100B.C. They were actually an amalgamation of various ethnic groups, primarily of Aegean and south-east European origin [Greece, Crete and Western Turkey] ... but surely not of Arabian origin! These Philistines were not Arab... and neither was Goliath! The Arabs of "Palestine" are just that... Arabs! And these Arabs of "Palestine" have about as much historical roots to the ancient Philistines as Yasser Arafat has to the Eskimos!
If anything, the name "Palestine" was associated with Jews. In the years leading up to the rebirth of Israel in 1948, those who spoke of "Palestinians" were nearly always referring to the region's Jewish residents. In fact, Arab leaders rejected the notion of a unique "Palestinian Arab" identity, insisting that Palestine was merely a part of "Greater Syria."
That as for the "Palestine" claims, and the facts about "stolen land"...
And the most important video, which you guys should watch before you are posting here fake maps:
That is the end of the "Palestine" lie, there is no such a place, there is no such a nation, there was a nation like that, but from people came from Greek, not those you call them or declare themselves "Palestinians". As for the fight right now, I have already said what I think in many threads, just take a look and expose the lies and the real truth, based on facts, and logic.
If you really believe that Israeli parents are teaching their kids to hate Palestinians than you are ignorant, sorry.
If any of the Israeli children hate Palestinians it's because they're shooting rockets at their home.
but...doesn't that mean palestinians are justified in hating israelis now because they're being violent towards them? you kinda just shot yourself in the foot with that argument
If Palestine was unclaimed land then why does it happen to be in the middle of the Arab World? Is that some kind of coincidence? I don't think so because in politics, coincidences do NOT exist.
The fact Israeli's claim "Palestine was never a country" is exactly why there's a problem there... you feel so entitled to a land, let me quote you some lines
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Thomas Salmon's 18th-century book, Modern history or, the present state of all nations, states that "Jerusalem is still reckoned the capital city of Palestine."
and the original declaration of the League of Nations
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"Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
Read that? "IN Palestine"... your home literally is in the Palistine country The fact that you don't accept that and use force and weapons to kill and hurt people and conquer land does not change the fact that you are not entitled to all that
That as for the "Palestine" claims, and the facts about "stolen land"...
And the most important video, which you guys should watch before you are posting here fake maps:
That is the end of the "Palestine" lie, there is no such a place, there is no such a nation, there was a nation like that, but from people came from Greek, not those you call them or declare themselves "Palestinians". As for the fight right now, I have already said what I think in many threads, just take a look and expose the lies and the real truth, based on facts, and logic.
I have never read or seen so much ******** in my whole life. Israeli and Pro-Israeli media will definitely use this as evidence to defend Israel's "existence". This is not the end of Palestine, but it could be the end of Israel. They are finally standing up for themselves and reclaiming their country back.
Ignoring an entire nation that exist way before Israel is absolutely horrendous! 
