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Discussion: Talking about Iggy to White people?
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Some of you. 
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
really? cause ive heard different from other people on this board. apparently black people invented all music but whatever
Ya'll are so damn bothered by that article
the title was obviously a ploy for controversy/intrest for people who otherwise wouldn't care
the Queen of Pop title gets tossed around to literally all our faves when they have a magazine shoot or something
Who. cares.
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Please let this not be a serious response. 
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Originally posted by GotSkill
But so far your argument is my brain can't comprehend and I don't understand the article? I'm not sure how to reply to that...
Like I've been saying since my first post in this thread I'd love to discuss when discussion arises, so whenever anyone's ready for a real discussion. And please tell me or at least link me to something to reply to, I am definitely not the problem here and I have never been one to be stuck in my argument (receipts in basically any thread ever). I'm not an Iggy stan, I'm not a Macklemore stan, I listen to all genres and all races, I have absolutely no biases. I'm ready to discuss.
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Sis, feel FREE to join the discussion. Just know that no one is here to discuss with you if you believe that our argument is that Iggy is only successful because of her race. That indicates that you haven't understood the arguments, because MULTIPLE people have explicitly stated that that isn't true in their arguments.
I'm not being mean, I'm just telling you the truth. This is supposed to be a discussion. We simply cannot discuss if you don't understand what people are saying!
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Originally posted by KareBear
It erases black people's struggle and success. There's nothing wrong with white people going into these genres the problem is when the white public or writers or award committee praise them to the high heavens as if what they do hasn't been done before and usually they praise and award these white artists more so than they do black artists who are some of the times doing it better. I think even Kanye said he hasn't won a Grammy in the rap category when going against Eminem. Things that originate in the black community often become "cool" or "successful" when white people do it.
And for those who keep arguing about white privilege. No one is saying being white guarantees you success or wealth but if you put a black person (or any minority) and a white person in the same circumstances, the only difference being their skin color, white people will almost always benefit more
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see i feel like this thing about awards which is a legitimate problem if that was truly the case but it seems to me the reason this white urban artists keep getting these awards is because they're new and popular did blurred lines win best urban song last year? but is anybody here for Robin his era this time around?? we all know the awards shows dont award the most deserving hardly ever these days otherwise Janelle Monae would be slaying our faves. they award the song that sold the most and the artist that will get them the most press
don't blame white people, blame capitalism.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
really? cause ive heard different from other people on this board. apparently black people invented all music but whatever
Ya'll are so damn bothered by that article
the title was obviously a ploy for controversy/intrest for people who otherwise wouldn't care
the Queen of Pop title gets tossed around to literally all our faves when they have a magazine shoot or something
Who. cares.
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are you implying that blacks didn't originate hip hop, rock, and jazz
we agree with the article
the title is taken from the article
bye felicia
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Originally posted by Doc
I like Iggy, so I'm not here to talk about her tweets or her character. That's not directly relevant to this article. The purpose of this thread and the article was to have a discussion about race, music, and society in America.
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It would be so much better if we could just remove some of the sarcasm, snippiness, and GIFs when your point of view doesn't match someone else's. This type of behavior is present on nearly every page. If someone ignorantly says something like white privilege doesn't exist due to genuine ignorance or if he/she doesn't understand a person of color's point of view due to his/her lack of exposure to institutionalized racism, it's not right to mock that person. It's happens all the time.
This is somewhat off topic, so I'll just hope this thread going forward will somehow lack all of the negative aspects that hurt discussion.
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Imagine several decades from now when rap is an old people genre and Eminem and Iggy are remembered as the king and queen of it. 
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Originally posted by Dancehall
Imagine several decades from now when rap is an old people genre and Eminem and Iggy are remembered as the king and queen of it. |
Cuz they are.
The only people that seem to have a problem with it are the people who created it.
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Originally posted by Flare
Please let this not be a serious response. |
thanks for that thought provoking argument
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
really? cause ive heard different from other people on this board. apparently black people invented all music but whatever
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This is a true statement
You ain't know?
What music did White ppl invent? The Chicken Dance?
 
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Originally posted by Doc
are you implying that blacks didn't originate hip hop, rock, and jazz
we agree with the article
the title is taken from the article
bye felicia
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no im saying people on this site people have said the black people invent all music genres
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
It would be so much better if we could just remove some of the sarcasm, snippiness, and GIFs when your point of view doesn't match someone else's. This type of behavior is present on nearly every page. If someone ignorantly says something like white privilege doesn't exist due to genuine ignorance or if he/she doesn't understand where a person of color's point of view due to his/her lack of exposure to institutionalized racism, it's not right to mock that person. It's happens all the time.
This is somewhat off topic, so I'll just hope this thread going forward will somehow lack all of the negative aspects that hurt discussion.
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Just at the bold: The thing about people on ATRL who are like that is that they are not willing to learn. They are not willing to understand. So yes I'm gonna shut them down and keep it moving. That is much better use of my time that writing paragraphs for someone who just isn't willing to open their eyes.
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Originally posted by Latch
This is a true statement
You ain't know?
What music did White ppl invent? The Chicken Dance?
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Classical for starters 
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek;22595384[B
]It would be so much better if we could just remove some of the sarcasm, snippiness, and GIFs when your point of view doesn't match someone else's. This type of behavior is present on nearly every page.[/B] If someone ignorantly says something like white privilege doesn't exist due to genuine ignorance or if he/she doesn't understand where a person of color's point of view due to his/her lack of exposure to institutionalized racism, it's not right to mock that person. It's happens all the time.
This is somewhat off topic, so I'll just hope this thread going forward will somehow lack all of the negative aspects that hurt discussion.
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I get what you're saying, but dude, lighten up.
You are on a pop forum for God sake's. Unless someone is personally attacking you, I don't find it to be a reason to keep complaining about a gif, when you can simply stop engaging in conversation with the person. Not that serious.
I do slightly agree with your last sentence in the first paragraph.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
see i feel like this thing about awards which is a legitimate problem if that was truly the case but it seems to me the reason this white urban artists keep getting these awards is because they're new and popular did blurred lines win best urban song last year? but is anybody here for Robin his era this time around?? we all know the awards shows dont award the most deserving hardly ever these days otherwise Janelle Monae would be slaying our faves. they award the song that sold the most and the artist that will get them the most press
don't blame white people, blame capitalism.
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Very very true. The best of every genre never gets recognized, it's the most successful of each genre that wins at award shows. The truth is that this industry is driven by a majority of teenage white girls that are driven to buy music by other white artists (much as black people but music predominantly by black artists, Latin people but music from Latin artists, etc), which in turn gives them a nomination at award shows. So if you're looking for the root of the "problem" look there
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
no im saying people on this site people have said the black people invent all music genres |
Um I haven't heard that, nor has anyone in this thread said that, so regardless of what you "heard", that simply isn't relevant to this thread.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
thanks for that thought provoking argument
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What you said isn't thought provoking nor informed. I can't argue with ignorance. Who honestly has the time? It's not like you'll change your mind or learn anything from it (proof: your responses in this thread).
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Originally posted by Doc
Um I haven't heard that, nor has anyone in this thread said that, so regardless of what you "heard", that simply isn't relevant to this thread. |
Latch just agreed
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Originally posted by Flare
What you said isn't thought provoking nor informed. I can't argue with ignorance. Who honestly has the time? It's not like you'll change your mind or learn anything from it (proof: your responses in this thread). |
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Originally posted by Latch
always sweeping Whites, their issues, under the rug
Why for?
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Because whites are the ones having their non-existent culture stolen and made fun of and switched around and reclaimed aren't they? Because white people are a race of oppession aren't they? Girl stop with everything you're doing in this thread please....
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