[Retro]

Originally posted by SHICD

But like, y'all signed up to do the job so when people "volunteer" then we expect you to actually do something and not nitpick. You can say no to becoming a moderator. It's like you put yourself in a position to rule over us but not do it correctly and we can't do anything about. I really appreciate what you guys do, but at some point it's time to look at yourselves and see why so many of the members here are upset by what's going on. I'm sure it could be worse, but if it does become worse, we could all leave and you guys would be left with nothing. It's a give and take relationship and you still haven't figured it out. And the wall between members and moderators is just ridiculous. You guys ride on your high horse together. I'd love for you guys to just communicate more. You guys act like youre the Mandate of Heaven. You forget your roots and that is what faults you.

I say this again, I DO appreciate everything you guys do. Hope no hard feelings.

The members are unsatisfied about the rules themselves; we warn how we're supposed to. We have higher ups who would demod us if we weren't doing the job they expected. Demanding we do things with an exasperated or other unpleasant tone is not the same as expecting us to do our jobs. I'd argue that while you're right, and it is a two way street, the moderating team is not the only side that is at fault by any means. We deserve respect for the time we devote to this site, because it would not be here without regulation. We deserve respectful tone in dialogue. I personally try to communicate as much as I can, but if the overall communication is strained, don't you think that one factor in that might be that we don't any longer expect that the members will treat us with respect and dignity? Both sides have to work for it if either wants better circumstances, and pinning the blame on one side will not make anyone feel less angry, less disrespected, or less in the right. Everyone needs to realize it's a two sided process.

[MM3]

Don't argue with mods!1!1R1w3r!Rr!!!!!!

Meanwhile, you're the first one in here fuming when you receive (deserved) points. Bye Felicia.

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

The absolute mess in here

[Abyssy]

What about this one? This is a back view and there's literally not even the implication of breasts?

[MM3]

Originally posted by KingsOfLeon1994

don't bring SupahBass05 into this, his avis don't show these adult models doing anything sexual so whats the problem?



We have something called Freedom of Speech sir, if you don't like us "arguing" with the mods and their bias ways then you can add me to your ignore list or simply log out.

I hope it does the latter.

[ChrisRTW]

Originally posted by KingsOfLeon1994

don't bring SupahBass05 into this, his avis don't show these adult models doing anything sexual so whats the problem?



We have something called Freedom of Speech sir, if you don't like us "arguing" with the mods and their bias ways then you can add me to your ignore list or simply log out.

d @you thinking i'm going to waste my precious space and add you on there.
You still going to be mad and the avatars are going to be removed so Haha

[2014]

Originally posted by Saint BeyNavi

I wasn't referring to the mods when I said that. I was referring to the pressed individual who likes to go after monsters for no reason.

You missunderstood me. I was also talking about those pressed individuals, not the mods.

[Retro]

Originally posted by SHICD

Also, I can see why KOL94 is upset. No prior notice was really said on a grand scale and most of the time, sexual gaga avi's are allowed. I think a reminder is a better fit.

Also the avi is really suggestive but you can't see nipples or a vagina. Not everyone visits HQ every second to see whats allowed and what isn't for new occurrences.

And that is why we issue reminders first in most situations; I've been doing so for this situation but I know that some of the avatars (particularly those with "Brazzers" stamped on them) warrant immediate warning and other mods have seen to it that such examples are immediately warned.

[Saint]

Originally posted by 2014

You missunderstood me. I was also talking about those pressed individuals, not the mods.

Mess.
Whatever. I changed my avi. I don't want more WP's.

[Dämon]

I mean, why is this avatar allowed then?



IMO it's the exact same thing
You can see her naked body.

[Latinazza]

Originally posted by KingsOfLeon1994

don't bring SupahBass05 into this, his avis don't show these adult models doing anything sexual so whats the problem?

I'm only talking about Superiore's avi in particular. There is nothing suggestive in that avi (unlike the other DWUW gifs used by other members). I mentioned SupahBass for comparative purposes. Everyone knows where he gets those images, even if they're not showing anything explicit.

[Kings.]

Originally posted by ChrisRTW

d @you thinking i'm going to waste my precious space and add you on there.
You still going to be mad and the avatars are going to be removed so Haha

I'm not pressed about any avatar because I didn't have one nor did I attempt to make one

Originally posted by 4AM.

And that is why we issue reminders first in most situations; I've been doing so for this situation but I know that some of the avatars (particularly those with "Brazzers" stamped on them) warrant immediate warning and other mods have seen to it that such examples are immediately warned.

But Retro I didn't have an avi at all, I used the gif right after it was posted by someone else and then I got 2 WPs for being "vulgar" I'm not lashing out at you personally but the fact that I got warned instead of reminded to not use the gif is what has me upset

[Superiore]

Anyway, even if I didn't receive a response from Retro, that's been posting, or any other mod about how my avi is more vulgar / explicit / sexual than a woman in her bikini, I'll change it in the morning as soon as I log on from my laptop. Now I'm on mobile and I caught the reminder from here otherwise I would've already done it. Goodnight y'all!

P.S.: @Latinazza thank you for the support but it's ok, maybe they're doing it not to be accused of having double standards if I remain with it. I don't know. TY

[Satan]

Originally posted by Lethal

I need to speak with Athens, has he been on lately?

Don't you DARE delete your account

[Retro]

Originally posted by KingsOfLeon1994

I'm not pressed about any avatar because I didn't have one nor did I attempt to make one

But Retro I didn't have an avi at all, I used the gif right after it was posted by someone else and then I got 2 WPs for being "vulgar" I'm not lashing out at you personally but the fact that I got warned instead of reminded to not use the gif is what has me upset

Using the gif is seen as a different situation from applying the scene to an avatar, as documented rules on avatars are less clear.

[SHICD]

Originally posted by 4AM.

And that is why we issue reminders first in most situations; I've been doing so for this situation but I know that some of the avatars (particularly those with "Brazzers" stamped on them) warrant immediate warning and other mods have seen to it that such examples are immediately warned.

I dunno if you recall, but a member posted in here about him getting 6 points that don't expire until august over this when he had no clue.

In reference to your other post, I agree and I think you personally do a great job at communicating with us. But I've never heard from another moderator beside Doc, Lipton, Katie, and supaspaz. Nobody bothers to even talk to us and the help request system is inappropriately slow. I know how the higher up thing is and I'm sorry that you guys have to put up with it, but ATRL was fine for over a decade and could support itself. i don't understand the sudden push to be clean and pretty when we aren't. But really, how much can a site like this cost a month with no employees and probably a $50.00/month bill. I think the problem lies within the admins using this website as a sort of income by driving the mods to clean up the image of the site so advertisers can show their ads with a site that has a good rep. It just won't work. Thank you for the response, though.

[BadBoy]

If I ask for a Download Link of a instrumental album will I get a WP?

[RatedG²]

Yall write too many lines. No one is gonna read all that

[Venus Temple]

Originally posted by BadBoy

If I ask for a Download Link of a instrumental album will I get a WP?

Yep Even unreleased collections gets you WPs.

[The Governor]

Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr

I mean, why is this avatar allowed then?



IMO it's the exact same thing
You can see her naked body.

not Retro ignoring this