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Discussion: UK bans creationism from being taught in public schools
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Originally posted by Gazing Ball
Religious education is exactly what put me off religion. First of all, except for one little topic we never looked at any religions other than Catholicism which defeats the purpose a bit. Plus the way it was structured forced us to have to write/say things that were pro-Christianity. I had to write about how IVF people are unnatural, less than human and "against God's plan" to pass. It was an utter disgrace, and my teacher as a former nun-in-training didn't help.
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RS was so easy  I just changed my religion on every paper to back up my opinion one second I'm a Jew, then suddenly the Muslim is me
Seriously, this isn't atheists forcing their views, it's making sure that you learn both sides of an argument, gawd 
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I can't wait until all atheists die since they're so quick to judge everyone. The world would be a better place with atheists dead since they can't seem to just leave people alone with their beliefs.
I've done research on both creationism and evolution and believe it or not, creationism seems to be the most logical explanation for our being. Evolution has A LOT of holes and is very illogical to believe, unless you're dumb of course.
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 You can't be serious.
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
You're saying that you barely spent any time studying evolution, yet you know that there are 'MASSIVE holes in the theory', when in fact the opposite is true? Evidently you need to do a bit more research on the matter.
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I have done my audits on it in university (currently taking a fee classes that heavy speak of it) and have done my own researches. I will admit I need to know more but I have read things that cotradict the theory completly. I'd live to share some with you guys. I'm seriously too busy to write an essay worth of reasons but I personally ask you guys to go make your own research on it and go Ito it with an open mind and not with a mind set were you are dead set on it being right. Right now it's nothing but a theory and not something that is set in stone.
Also to some ppl who seem to be offended with the fact that I believe the theory of evolution is nothing but theory and should not be taught as being 100% truth plz understand I am also agaisbt the theories of creationism. I need something much more logical and affirming with heavier evidence without any contradictions before believing in it. Call me a "non believer" or "skeptic" but that's just who I am. So plz do not get offended
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I've lived my entire life not judging anyone by their religion/non-religion, even with my belief in God. I've gotten BEATEN UP for my beliefs, bullied in school for it, etc. I can't simply go on being the nice guy anymore.
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Kii I wonder how many other religious people have stopped being the "nice guy". Isn't that like against your religion? Why are you going to take your past to bring judgement on present people? Stop.
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Wait is creationism is like the Adam and Eve way?
Didnt know schools could teach that  we just learned it in religion but we all know science is the truth on that one
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Weird that it was taught in the first place anyways...
I went to a Catholic school... (Catholic schools are publicly funded here, so it's free). We learned creationism in Religion, and evolution in Biology and Anthropology. I think it was best that way, learning both. Especially considering that it was a religious school.
Plus we learned how the stories of the bible are parables and did not necessarily happen, and exist to teach us lessons.
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Originally posted by Gazing Ball
Religious education is exactly what put me off religion. First of all, except for one little topic we never looked at any religions other than Catholicism which defeats the purpose a bit. Plus the way it was structured forced us to have to write/say things that were pro-Christianity. I had to write about how IVF people are unnatural, less than human and "against God's plan" to pass. It was an utter disgrace, and my teacher as a former nun-in-training didn't help.
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Religious education should be looking at a variety of different beliefs and religions and it needs to teach a balanced argument weighing up the pros and cons. If it is taught like that then I think it is really beneficial.
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I can't wait until all atheists die since they're so quick to judge everyone. The world would be a better place with atheists dead since they can't seem to just leave people alone with their beliefs.
I've done research on both creationism and evolution and believe it or not, creationism seems to be the most logical explanation for our being. Evolution has A LOT of holes and is very illogical to believe, unless you're dumb of course.
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1. Problem is we're on the progressive side of the arguement so 
2. Just no
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I've done research on both creationism and evolution and believe it or not, creationism seems to be the most logical explanation for our being. Evolution has A LOT of holes and is very illogical to believe, unless you're dumb of course.
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What holes?
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I've done research on both creationism and evolution and believe it or not, creationism seems to be the most logical explanation for our being. Evolution has A LOT of holes and is very illogical to believe, unless you're dumb of course.
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The idea that a giant, unknowable mystical creature manufactured the earth, life and the entire universe as we know it is the more logical than the idea that we evolved over time giving rise to similar species and interlocking genomes that trace back to a common ancestor?
Sis, sit down.
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I can't wait until all atheists die since they're so quick to judge everyone. The world would be a better place with atheists dead since they can't seem to just leave people alone with their beliefs.
I've done research on both creationism and evolution and believe it or not, creationism seems to be the most logical explanation for our being. Evolution has A LOT of holes and is very illogical to believe, unless you're dumb of course.
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There is not a single aspect of logic behind creationism. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Gazing Ball
Religious education is exactly what put me off religion. First of all, except for one little topic we never looked at any religions other than Catholicism which defeats the purpose a bit. Plus the way it was structured forced us to have to write/say things that were pro-Christianity. I had to write about how IVF people are unnatural, less than human and "against God's plan" to pass. It was an utter disgrace, and my teacher as a former nun-in-training didn't help.
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May I ask where you're from? It's a shame your religious education was so poor.
I learned, from a teacher trained in Religious Education, about Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism AND Christianity, which is something that should happen across the board. Also, all Christian teaching was taught as BELIEF, not fact - no-one was being forced into believing anything, merely understanding a different point of view. In a perfect world, the religious education I received would be taught worldwide.
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Originally posted by lousaysthings
I disagree. Religious education is important for religious tolerance, something that is especially necessary in the 21st century, post 9/11 and 7/7. I agree that it needs to be taught properly but if teachers stick to the curriculum, there should be no problem whatsoever.
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You don't need religious studies in order to be tolerant of religions. I haven't taken a religous studies class but I am perfectly fine with people and their beliefs in religion.
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Originally posted by IBeMe
I have done my audits on it in university (currently taking a fee classes that heavy speak of it) and have done my own researches. I will admit I need to know more but I have read things that cotradict the theory completly. I'd live to share some with you guys. I'm seriously too busy to write an essay worth of reasons but I personally ask you guys to go make your own research on it and go Ito it with an open mind and not with a mind set were you are dead set on it being right. Right now it's nothing but a theory and not something that is set in stone.
Also to some ppl who seem to be offended with the fact that I believe the theory of evolution is nothing but theory and should not be taught as being 100% truth plz understand I am also agaisbt the theories of creationism. I need something much more logical and affirming with heavier evidence without any contradictions before believing in it. Call me a "non believer" or "skeptic" but that's just who I am. So plz do not get offended
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So genetic mutations are more illogical than a higher being there is no proof of and who there are plenty of philosophical arguments against creating animals? What next, you think all these fossils were staged as part of an atheist revolution 
I'm not asking for an essay, just list a few reasons why. Maybe if you explained the reasons people would be more open to your point of view 
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Originally posted by IBeMe
You do not needy question my intelligence like that simply because I disagree with a theory. I'm not believing in any theory or religious banter until I see the concrete proof. Evaluation theories have been plagued with YES massive "holes". It dosnt take a genius to recognize that.
I agree with the other user who said it should be taught as a theory and that's about it because as of 2014 it IS nothing but a theory and I'm not about to accept teachers/pol/you come at me and tell me it's the "truth" and I should submit to the minimalistic and contradictory "evidence" in evolution.
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None of this is true sis You're being seriously misled by the word "theory." There are no major holes in evolution... In fact, our knowledge of evolution has helped us predict numerous future discoveries.
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Originally posted by lousaysthings
I disagree. Religious education is important for religious tolerance, something that is especially necessary in the 21st century, post 9/11 and 7/7. I agree that it needs to be taught properly but if teachers stick to the curriculum, there should be no problem whatsoever.
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Religion is a huge part of the world, so of course kids should be taught it. They should not be taught religious beliefs as a legitimate science though. Do you agree?
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Kii I wonder how many other religious people have stopped being the "nice guy". Isn't that like against your religion? Why are you going to take your past to bring judgement on present people? Stop.
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Because every atheist that I have met has been exactly the same in my experience. Ready to judge and tear someone down for their beliefs.
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Originally posted by SlayMeQueen
I've lived my entire life not judging anyone by their religion/non-religion, even with my belief in God. I've gotten BEATEN UP for my beliefs, bullied in school for it, etc. I can't simply go on being the nice guy anymore.
I'm not going to explain because every time I do I get multiple people telling me how stupid I am. I just don't bother anymore. It doesn't help anything.
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You can certainly explain your viewpoint, but it's rather silly of you to think we'll find your argument which is nothing more than "I've done some research and creationism is more logical to me" as a valid reason. I'd rather subscribe to actual scientific research, by scientists across the world which have time after time found a basis for evolution.
I'm certainly not implying anything about religion as I too believe in a God. But I doubt your research capabilities are as rigorous or as in depth as say, a PhD in Life/Natural/Chemical science.
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 Yes clock his hypocritical point of view
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