[Qwerty1234]

All I can say.. Now I understand why she chose not to release it.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Luc

the only reason ya'll are saying it's "rape" is because R Kelly is in the video. If it was anyone else, it'd be seen as what it is... random nurses dancing on gaga with lobsters lol

So? The fact is that it was NOT anybody else, so that's why people are saying what they are.

[Shapes]

Originally posted by Kayhan

Today we understood that ATRL doesnt know what rape is.

Kayhan you need to watch more SVU! Primetime network television is the best source on what rape is and isnt!!!

[Summerboy95]

Originally posted by NaughtyDog

this thread has thought me that if I drug someone and then grind on top of them while exposing their private parts to a group of people is not molestation and totally ok as long as Do What U Want is playing in the background

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by Shapes

Kayhan you need to watch more SVU! Primetime network television is the best source on what rape is and isnt!!!

[NaughtyDog]

Originally posted by Shapes

Kayhan you need to watch more SVU! Primetime network television is the best source on what rape is and isnt!!!

ffff

[pxxxtrick]

Originally posted by tHE.PARtY.

The DWUW video is not about R. Kelly's history as a sex offender. The video is about Lady Gaga. R. Kelly is in the video because he is featured on the song. He is featured on the song because Gaga likes his music. Yes, the video is obviously sexual. Gaga has done several videos that are obviously sexual. So just because the video is sexual and includes R. Kelly makes it about rape?

[Rihinvention]

Originally posted by swissman

So? The fact is that it was NOT anybody else, so that's why people are saying what they are.

[tHE.PARtY.]

By the way half of you girls don't even like gaga why are you wasting your time posting in this thread about an artist you hate? Go listen to Loud or Prism and enjoy life

[Chronix]

Better question is why would R. Kelly, with a sketchy past relating to rape and molestation, even agree to be in a video like this. Just when the urban community was starting to warm up to him... M.ES.S.

[Shapes]

Originally posted by tHE.PARtY.

The DWUW video is not about R. Kelly's history as a sex offender. The video is about Lady Gaga. R. Kelly is in the video because he is featured on the song. He is featured on the song because Gaga likes his music. Yes, the video is obviously sexual. Gaga has done several videos that are obviously sexual. So just because the video is sexual and includes R. Kelly makes it about rape?

The issue is the video isn't just sexual.

She's passed out and is being exposed to other people. Haven't you heard of this happening in high schools and colleges? That's sexual assault!

I mean it's tough to see because it's filtered through this stylized lens by Terry Richardson (another rapist I just realized), but if you remove all the flashbang crap it's literally a crowd of people abusing Lady Gaga's body including her sexual organs.

That's rape bro

[tHE.PARtY.]

Originally posted by Shapes

The issue is the video isn't just sexual.

She's passed out and is being exposed to other people. Haven't you heard of this happening in high schools and colleges? That's sexual assault!

I mean it's tough to see because it's filtered through this stylized lens by Terry Richardson (another rapist I just realized), but if you remove all the flashbang crap it's literally a crowd of people abusing Lady Gaga's body including her sexual organs.

That's rape bro

You have a great point and I would agree with you if she wasn't telling them to do what they want with her body.

[tittieslap]

Originally posted by Shapes

The issue is the video isn't just sexual.

She's passed out and is being exposed to other people. Haven't you heard of this happening in high schools and colleges? That's sexual assault!

I mean it's tough to see because it's filtered through this stylized lens by Terry Richardson (another rapist I just realized), but if you remove all the flashbang crap it's literally a crowd of people abusing Lady Gaga's body including her sexual organs.

That's rape bro

No it isn't cause they're not having sex with her. If you think twerking is sexual assault, then go ahead. But that's something not everyone would agree on as being sexual assault. This is no worse than a bunch of kids doing a prank and writing on someone's face when they're asleep or passed out drunk.

[Skin&Bone]

This looks like a low budget mashup of Overprotected and S&M

[Samuel.]

57 pages

Who else but the Queen of ATRL

[iheartBrit]

[Shapes]

Originally posted by tHE.PARtY.

You have a great point and I would agree with you if she wasn't telling them to do what they want with her body.

That's another layer to the song though.

Look I understand what the song is trying to say, and I think it's an effective video and song that gets Gaga's thesis across.

The issue is everyone denying the fact that what's happening in the video is blatantly rape. It's not glorifying it, but it's portraying it, and that comes with criticism and controversy.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

The video is about rape/sexual assault because the theme of the video is Gaga being drugged and sexually assaulted in a doctor's office

Why are you guys having such a hard time with this concept?

This isn't up for debate. You can agree or disagree with her intent/message, but you can't just flat-out pretend that the theme isn't there

[Sexxx Dreams]

So many experts on atrl tonight

[Shapes]

Originally posted by tittieslap

No it isn't cause they're not having sex with her. .

If you think sexual assault means that you have to have sex...

Grabbing a woman's breast on the subway is sexual assault. I don't see any P in V going on in that situation.