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TV Show: Game of Thrones: Season 7 | Teaser released
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The highlight of this season.... Queen Sansa Stark (AKA Sophie Turner) has given Game of Thrones and HBO the highest ratings they have ever had in the history of their programing (beating the Sopranos) with her two groundbreaking and Emmy suggested episodes. After episode 7 and 8 people lost interest.... what does that tell you?
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Right ? Sansa/Littlefinger slaying the lessors with highest ratings of the season 
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Sansa and Lilfinger were the highlight of the book for me.. but i am not sure how i feel about what they did in the show! 
for me the highlight was the Purple Wedding and the immediate aftermath!  Basically the show nailed King's Landing this season!
Bran in the finale and the War at the Wall were the second and third.
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Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY
Sansa and Lilfinger were the highlight of the book for me.. but i am not sure how i feel about what they did in the show! |
Her change was so rapid and a little unbelievable in the show
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Originally posted by Lucas32
Her change was so rapid and a little unbelievable in the show
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no actually thats just one of my issues!
she escaped King's Landing perfectly.. it couldnt have been done better. then she went to the eyrie and Lysa's entry was perfect. the first night when sansa laid in her bed listening to Lysa go nuts nailing Petyr was perfect too. that all happened in the first 5 episodes.
then all of a sudden.. i dont know why they just RUSHED through the best bits. the thing that was the most interesting about Sansa's arc in the Eyrie, Lysa going crazy in the end and being pushed out the moon door, was rushed within 7 minutes. and i dont get why they did that cuz they havent shown her since episode 8. so why couldnt they have comfortably done it properly, skipped over some of the filler scenes, and given her like 10 more minutes! 
so basically.. it was the best thing about the season till episode 5, and then became the worst thing about the season. 
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Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY
no actually thats just one of my issues!
she escaped King's Landing perfectly.. it couldnt have been done better. then she went to the eyrie and Lysa's entry was perfect. the first night when sansa laid in her bed listening to Lysa go nuts nailing Petyr was perfect too. that all happened in the first 5 episodes.
then all of a sudden.. i dont know why they just RUSHED through the best bits. the thing that was the most interesting about Sansa's arc in the Eyrie, Lysa going crazy in the end and being pushed out the moon door, was rushed within 7 minutes. and i dont get why they did that cuz they havent shown her since episode 8. so why couldnt they have comfortably done it properly, skipped over some of the filler scenes, and given her like 10 more minutes!
so basically.. it was the best thing about the season till episode 5, and then became the worst thing about the season. |
Agreed.
What was annoying is that they spent like 8 episodes on Arya and the Hound just walking around doing nothing, those scenes were the ones that could have been edited down and gotten to the point right away. Why not send Arya to Braavos right after they introduced the city in the show? She's the one character who has so many things going on after that. The 10 minutes where Sansa builds the castle and the faces ******* crazy Lysa could have easily been done throughout two episodes, show her confession in episode 8 then in the season finale reveal her as the proper queen that she is, badass gown and all... It would have fit in perfectly with the Children theme.
Sophie Turner better slay for doing her confession scene in one take, she was the strongest actress this season and the one most deserving of the Emmy nomination. Natalie Dormer didn't appear as much, Lena wasn't given strong material (her gathering Tywin up was amazing though in the last episode), Masie was just there and no comment on Emilia.
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I was disappointed in the finale. They should have pushed for an extra episode because what happens next for most of these people is gut-wrenching....
I supposed we'll have to flesh out the stories a bit more for next season. 
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Originally posted by -Alfie-
Agreed.
What was annoying is that they spent like 8 episodes on Arya and the Hound just walking around doing nothing, those scenes were the ones that could have been edited down and gotten to the point right away. Why not send Arya to Braavos right after they introduced the city in the show? She's the one character who has so many things going on after that. The 10 minutes where Sansa builds the castle and the faces ******* crazy Lysa could have easily been done throughout two episodes, show her confession in episode 8 then in the season finale reveal her as the proper queen that she is, badass gown and all... It would have fit in perfectly with the Children theme.
Sophie Turner better slay for doing her confession scene in one take, she was the strongest actress this season and the one most deserving of the Emmy nomination. Natalie Dormer didn't appear as much, Lena wasn't given strong material (her gathering Tywin up was amazing though in the last episode), Masie was just there and no comment on Emilia.
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that would have been perfect actually 
and about the emmy considerations.. i dont now if any actress will get nominated but i am REALLY rooting for Tywin and Tyrion!  charles Dance was great this season and Peter Dinklage absolutely deserves to win for that trial episode alone.
but more than all of them.. i am rooting VERY hard for Diana Rigg and Pedro Pascal! both of them slayed my life this season and deserve to get nominated in the very least.
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: We’ve come to a huge pivot point. George R.R. Martin originally conceived of his books as a trilogy, and the end of A Storm of Swords feels like the first and only natural breaking point in the saga. It also begins a stretch of storytelling that some fans feel isn’t as compelling as what came before it. What’s your take on season 5?
DAVID BENIOFF & DAN WEISS: After finishing season 3, we were nervous about season 4—we’d been looking forward to the Red Wedding for so long that once we shot it, we feared everything beyond that would seem like an anti-climax. We grew less nervous when we outlined season 4, less nervous still when we wrote the episodes, and all nervousness evaporated when we saw the directors’ cuts and knew we had a great season in hand. For season 5, again, the fear started to dissipate when we outlined it and realized how much story we had to tell. Now that we’re nearly finished with the first drafts of each episode, we see no reason why the coming season shouldn’t be the strongest yet.
Each season has used material from books beyond where the bulk of that season’s story was set. Best I can figure, you’ll hit the end of Dance on most of the major storylines by the end of next season, if not before the end—and obviously you need to set up season 6, at the very least. Is the sense at this point that you know where the characters need to eventually end up, and so you’re just going to increasingly play your own game from here on out?
We have talked to George extensively about where he’s going with the books, and will continue to do so. His books are the blueprint for the world we’re building. Ultimately the show needs to work on its own terms, and keep on moving. Our job is to square that necessity with George’s work to the best of our ability.
Still thinking 7 seasons total?
Yep.
The production is going to Spain, and leaked casting breakdowns are full of Dorne characters. So can just assume we’re spending time in Dorne? And if so, what excites you about the Dorne storyline?
There will be Dorne, and we’re excited about it. Who wouldn’t want to hang out in Dorne? They have admirable values and priorities. And have you seen Oberyn’s coat?
This season we saw both Littlefinger and now Varys quit the crown to become rogue agents with uncertain agendas. Can you tease what these two are up to?
Littlefinger has been open with a few people about what he wants: Varys, Sansa, a few prostitutes, us. He wants everything. He wants to sit on that throne. By necessity, his path there will be twisted and indirect. But everything he does in some way points to that goal. As for Varys: Early in the season, when speaking with Tyrion, Varys claims to be concerned primarily with self preservation. At the end of the season, though, his actions prove otherwise. He throws away the entire life he’s built for himself in King’s Landing to save Tyrion’s life. Now what? … “Now what?” will become eminently clear in season 5.
One of the big surprises this season was the White Walker scene with Craster’s baby. Is it fair to assume that from here on out, fantasy elements increase each season given that, you know, winter is coming?
The characters will always be the thing. The scenes that make us most excited are often the ones that take place between two people in a room. That said… the White Walkers aren’t going away. The dragons aren’t getting any smaller. Melisandre’s still sorceressing, the giants are more pissed than ever, and Jaime’s almost done building his jetpack. So… yeah, the fantasy’s not going away. It is a fantasy show.
[Note: The rest of this transcript comes from an interview conducted months ago via phone, with a couple of these answers previously reported....]
With Stannis and Jon coming together in the finale, for the first time the series has started to contract after expanding. The characters have been spreading out, and now they’re starting to pivot to come back together. Is that an accurate read?
WEISS: I think that’s really smart. It’s something we talk about a lot. It’s the mid-game point of working on the show; after having spent all this time developing all these divergent and separate interests, being able to bring people from disparate worlds together is intrinsically interesting. It’s almost like the engine that drives the middle ground of the show.
BENIOFF: It almost feels like this is the midpoint for us. If we’re going to go seven seasons, which is the plan, season 4 is right town the middle. It’s the pivot point, as you say. It’s been an expanding universe and will now start to contract. Which doesn’t mean we won’t meet any new characters in season 5, because we will. But it’s going to start to shrink for sure.
BENIOFF: We’re not going in strict order because we can’t. We can’t adapt Feast and leave out half our characters. We’ll be drawing heavily from Feast and Dance in season 5.
You know George’s ending for the saga. Non-specifically, do you feel the saga’s ending is creatively satisfying? Is it an ending you’re excited to work toward?
BENIOFF: Absolutely, yes.
WEISS: 100 percent.
BENIOFF: And I feel we have so many conversations about later seasons. And this year we’ve started talking about the very end. One of the lessons of Breaking Bad, which had a phenomenal final season, phenomenal entire series—you really get the sense [creator Vince Gilligan] went into it with a story in mind and achieved that. We want this to work.
Is there a character on this show whose loss would really zap a lot of the life from the series?
BENIOFF: There are some characters who will die that I won’t think people will predict. And as George has said, we’re killing off more characters than in the books and will continue to do so.
WEISS: There are several characters whose loss will do that. But it doesn’t mean they won’t die.
Do you have a sense of what you guys want to do after Game of Thrones?
BENIOFF AND WEISS [in unison]: Sleep.
Which you both answer at same time…
BENIOFF: It’s the easiest question you’ve asked since we first met you.
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Wait only 7 seasons?! GRRM better work faster or that rumored hiatus might actually have to happen.
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I'm currently reading the books, can somebody tell me how true this bit ( "some fans feel isn’t as compelling as what came before it") is, without spoilers please.
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Originally posted by casholic
Wait only 7 seasons?! GRRM better work faster or that rumored hiatus might actually have to happen.
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The answer sums it all. An awkward: Yep.
They're saying 7 seasons because that's the number of season HBO and the creators agreed on when they began the show. I'm not talking about the renewed seasons (they renewed until 6) but about the pre-nup contract before season 1.
They have a contract, they can't say otherwise to the press.
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I'm currently reading the books, can somebody tell me how true this bit ( "some fans feel isn’t as compelling as what came before it") is, without spoilers please.
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It's unfortunately true. AFFC and ADWD aren't as focused as the first 3 books. It's all over the place. GRRM bogged down.
This is why i wouldn't be surprised if the show actually is better than the books starting next season. The creators are gonna merge AFFC/ ADWD, scrap all the useless storylines and create new ones focused on the main characters.
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This seven seasons plan won't work. It will be eight at least
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Originally posted by Tena
I'm currently reading the books, can somebody tell me how true this bit ( "some fans feel isn’t as compelling as what came before it") is, without spoilers please.
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The first half of AFFC is a bit of a drag and some of the storyline aren't as interesting in ADWD but they're still worth reading and will leave you wanting book 6
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Well it was already expected. Next season we should start seeing completely new material not from the books because 4th and 5th books are almost non-eventful compared to the first ones 
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Originally posted by Lucas32
The first half of AFFC is a bit of a drag and some of the storyline aren't as interesting in ADWD but they're still worth reading and will leave you wanting book 6
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I'm also considering reading the books, but I wanted to start from the book that comes after Season 4 of the show. But then someone told me I should read it from the beginning, what do you think?
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Originally posted by Tena
I'm currently reading the books, can somebody tell me how true this bit ( "some fans feel isn’t as compelling as what came before it") is, without spoilers please.
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They're essentially the aftermath of book 3 so there's not as much action in book 4 and book 5, but both still have good moments even if they're a little further apart.
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I'm also considering reading the books, but I wanted to start from the book that comes after Season 4 of the show. But then someone told me I should read it from the beginning, what do you think?
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Start with book 1. It is even more incredible in my opinion than the show because you get the insight thoughts of the characters and a lot more depth.You can start with book 4 but I would recommend to start with book 1 because the whole book series is just incredible
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There's absolutely no point in starting with book 4 
If you're only guiding mark is the show, AFFC and ADWD are gonna a be hell of a drag for you 
There's SO much that's not in the show, you wouldn't understand a thing ...
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Mmm, the books are only decent, but generally so is the show. So if you like the show a lot, you'll probably like the books a lot.
Book 5 is bad though.
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