[JCON]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

Is it something that you feel a certain need to say? If you're not sure whether saying something would be considered disrespectful or not, then just pass on saying it.

It's not that I need to walk down the street calling every black person that, but I have black american friends and I'm not sure how this word affect them. Here in Brazil we had a long history of slavery, but we don't have all this controversy with the N-word (I mean the equivalent in portuguese), unless you're really use it as a insult.

[B'Day]

Originally posted by Flare

The real irony of this is that he called it a "Father's Day" joke but his father wasn't there for him until he became rich.

The effortless clock.

[Living Legend]

I hope he get's in trouble 'cause Paula Deen the poor thing....

[Big Smoke]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

How am I doing the same thing? I never stated who is outraged by this or not. I said I find it offensive and ignorant and that no one has the right to tell someone when to be offended or not. You're the one trying to speak for a whole race.

Yeah. Yeah I can. There are times when you should be mad about something and there are other times when I can tell a person to stop being a ***** and get over it. Stop trying to make mountains out of molehills.

It is very possible to speak for an entire race or a group of people when said community is being contradictory. You'll be hardpressed to find a rap song that doesnt contain the word ***** in it. The biggest consumer of rap music is suburban white folks. Not to mention society is a LOT more integrated now than ever, hell people call white people *****. You dont want white people to not say *****, then stop sayin it. me I dont care either way whether I get called it or not.

And whether he was 15,16,17; he's old enough to be called out on saying stupid ****.
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And maybe this is what irks me the most.

1. It's a conversation with his friends. a private conversation mind you. If your saying that havent said some off color things to friends in private, then youre lying because you have. We all do.

2. If I get judged by what I said and did at 16 (or hell, 18) I wouldnt have a career right now. People grow up, its called puberty.

And for the "he has black friends these days!" crowd. He was hanging around the same black people that he's hanging around now when he made this "joke". That obviously didn't stop him.

and they obviously care as little as I do that he said it. Didnt you just say you cant tell people what to be offended at?

[Aaron]

The worst part is definitely the haggard, wicked old cackling witch laughing along with him/ruining his joke with her own.

[Guy]

Originally posted by Big Smoke

Yeah. Yeah I can. There are times when you should be mad about something and there are other times when I can tell a person to stop being a ***** and get over it. Stop trying to make mountains out of molehills.

It is very possible to speak for an entire race or a group of people when said community is being contradictory. You'll be hardpressed to find a rap song that doesnt contain the word ***** in it. The biggest consumer of rap music is suburban white folks. Not to mention society is a LOT more integrated now than ever, hell people call white people *****. You dont want white people to not say *****, then stop sayin it. me I dont care either way whether I get called it or not.



And maybe this is what irks me the most.

1. It's a conversation with his friends. a private conversation mind you. If your saying that havent said some off color things to friends in private, then youre lying because you have. We all do.

2. If I get judged by what I said and did at 16 (or hell, 18) I wouldnt have a career right now. People grow up, its called puberty.



and they obviously care as little as I do that he said it. Didnt you just say you cant tell people what to be offended at?

Sis, if he's 16-18, he's well into puberty. Regardless, by that age he KNOWS right from wrong. He's not a 5 year old. That excuse doesn't fly. And given the fact that his personality has only deteriorated since, I doubt he's done this proposed "growing up."

Yes, people say off color things at times. That does absolve anyone from criticism. That doesn't make what he said any less offensive.

[Qwerty1234]

Originally posted by Big Smoke

Yeah. Yeah I can. There are times when you should be mad about something and there are other times when I can tell a person to stop being a ***** and get over it. Stop trying to make mountains out of molehills.

It is very possible to speak for an entire race or a group of people when said community is being contradictory. You'll be hardpressed to find a rap song that doesnt contain the word ***** in it. The biggest consumer of rap music is suburban white folks. Not to mention society is a LOT more integrated now than ever, hell people call white people *****. You dont want white people to not say *****, then stop sayin it. me I dont care either way whether I get called it or not.

Excuse me, but that's total and completely ********. You said: "Most black people aren't mad about this". Unless you went out and polled a significant or representative part of the population about their thoughts in regard to this Justin Bieber incident, then you can't state what a race or a group thinks about something. Even if you did that, it wouldn't even be possible to poll subjective feelings of a whole group/race.

And maybe this is what irks me the most.

1. It's a conversation with his friends. a private conversation mind you. If your saying that havent said some off color things to friends in private, then youre lying because you have. We all do.

I can honestly say, that I've never said racist things about any race. Ever. I might be an abnormality, but I doubt it. You're again projecting YOUR thoughts and feelings on others.

2. If I get judged by what I said and did at 16 (or hell, 18) I wouldnt have a career right now. People grow up, its called puberty.

Please. Your formative years are called your formative years for a reason. Either way, to me, age is not an excuse to say hateful things even in a joking matter. But if he tomorrow, released a heartfelt apology for this, then I'd accept it and move on.

and they obviously care as little as I do that he said it. Didnt you just say you cant tell people what to be offended at?

Where in that post did I say his friends cared or didn't care? I said the "You shouldn't be offended because he has black friends" argument is baseless.

[Jerome2Go]

Originally posted by Qwerty1234

Excuse me, but that's total and completely ********. You said: "Most black people aren't mad about this". Unless you went out and polled a significant or representative part of the population about their thoughts in regard to this Justin Bieber incident, then you can't state what a race or a group thinks about something. Even if you did that, it wouldn't even be possible to poll subjective feelings of a whole group/race.




I can honestly say, that I've never said racist things about any race. Ever. I might be an abnormality, but I doubt it. You're again projecting YOUR thoughts and feelings on others.



Please. Your formative years are called your formative years for a reason. Either way, to me, age is not an excuse to say hateful things even in a joking matter. But if he tomorrow, released a heartfelt apology for this, then I'd accept it and move on.



Where in that post did I say his friends cared or didn't care? I said the "You shouldn't be offended because he has black friends" argument is baseless.

He is going to release a statement , everybody make racial jokes whether it is about jews , chinese or even gay jokes , in his case he made the joke and apologized right after according to TMZ .

[YourMadGesty]

He's a little ****, but I'm not even mad. I am no longer surprised by what people say behind closed doors for something they thought would be private.

[Musicjunky318]

Everybody has racial tendencies/prejudices to some extent I don't care what anybody says. People need to really stop it with this politically correct stuff. Racial hatred is something different. Justin Bieber isn't a racist in that regard. He wouldn't even associate with the crowds he associates with if he really felt some type of way about black folks. Dude had a Mexican gf. Racist white boys don't make those type of moves. LOL

He's an egotistical, immature, spoiled-brat who needs his behind whooped. Where's mommy and daddy?

[Honeyßéy]

I guess saying the N-word is cool nowadays. He sounds so ignorant.If he only realize how ignorant he sounds, and I can't @ you guys defending him.

[Shigo]

UGH.

[Mezter]

Smh...

[Memphis]

Originally posted by Jerome2Go

I'm black myself and I don't think he is racist , I mean if he was we would have seen some sort of pattern over the years like with Paula Deen ,and Donald Sterling. I am more interested as to what his friends , and other people of color who work for him think of this .

I think Kenny is the only one who has spoken about it publicly https://twitter.com/KennyHamilton

[Golden]

His friend clocking him

[Jet]

Racist

[Jet]

And that joke didn't even make sense :/

[Raiden]

To those who say he's not racist



http://www.ibtimes.com/justin-bieber...e-brazil-photo

[Jerome2Go]

Originally posted by Memphis

I think Kenny is the only one who has spoken about it publicly https://twitter.com/KennyHamilton

Twitter is blocked on my network , i can't see it What did he say ?

Originally posted by Honeyßéy

I guess saying the N-word is cool nowadays. He sounds so ignorant.If he only realize how ignorant he sounds, and I can't @ you guys defending him.

Not escusing his behavior but he made the joke 5 years ago , not last week like one of the boys from 1D

[Chrome]

Uhm.

This ain't even some term of endearment thing argument y'all been making in the other thread. This is flat-out racism.