[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Javan

Old testament was never supposed to be perfect, the people at the time were a young unruly civilization. Spiritually they were like children thus the old testament was a lot more extreme and explicit. The new testament is sovereign to the old testament obviously. Jesus didn't condone slavery.

How do you know all of this though? Also Jesus did condone slavery and the old testament I have already demonstrated this. Also if he didn't condone the OT it would be part of the bible.

[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

You know what it is, EVERYONE does, Gods law is in our hearts.

The ten commandments are literally basic knowledge, heres a few

Love your neighbor as yourself

Respect and obey your parents

Dont take whats not yours

Sounds farmiliar doesnt it?

the ten commandments are on the old testament. They are also not that specific and can be interpreted all kinds of ways.

[Planet Mars]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

How do you know all of this though? Also Jesus did condone slavery and the old testament I have already demonstrated this. Also if he didn't condone the OT it would be part of the bible.

That doesnt make sense

Though most of the mosaic laws practiced in the old testament were recalled its a BIG part of biblical history, why on earth will God want it left out. Lets also note that the holy bibly we all read today was assembled my emporer constantine during the 4th century, YEARS after jesus left.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Oh I am sorry that I have responses to the things you are saying and I am sorry I have actually read the bible.

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Yes he gave us a way out of all going to hell (a concept from the NT, not the old) for the actions of other people, as long as we believe in Jesus. So I am going to hell but there will be a few serial killers who aren't.

That's not how it works

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Also why didn't god intervene in any way when people started misrepresenting him? According to most Christians

So I guess you skipped the 17 chapters in which God came down to earth as Jesus to teach his faith correctly? The sheer ignorance.

[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Javan

Wear does it say that?

http://www.openbible.info/topics/slavery

[Planet Mars]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

the ten commandments are on the old testament. They are also not that specific and can be interpreted all kinds of ways.

No, their rather specific actually

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Women don't have to be second class citizens under their husbands. In the eyes of God we're all the same. Every man will be judged exactly the same as every woman

It all depends on the couple. Some men prefer strong, independent women who don't have to depend on them for everything. I just think you're being misogynistic under the guise of piety and really you just think women are less than men

[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

That doesnt make sense

Though most of the mosaic laws practiced in the old testament were recalled its a BIG part of biblical history, why on earth will God want it left out. Lets also note that the holy bibly we all read today was assembled my emporer constantine during the 4th century, YEARS after jesus left.

I dunno, maybe to stop people wrongfully discrimination against others in his name.

Also who recalled them? We already established that Jesus didn't, he even said he wasn't there to do that.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

the ten commandments are on the old testament. They are also not that specific and can be interpreted all kinds of ways.

Bitch WHET?

You shall have no other Gods but me.
You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
Respect your father and mother.
You must not kill.
You must not commit adultery.
You must not steal.
You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.

How could you be any more specific. How else could any of these be interpreted

[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Planet Mars

No, their rather specific actually

Generally in the Catholic church divorce is not permitted (but it is legal in most countries just not recognized by them) they would view a remarriage as adultery. Other churches do permit divorce and would not, who is right and why? Remember that the bible both condemns and condones divorce.

[Planet Mars]

Originally posted by Javan

Bitch WHET?



How could you be any more specific. How else could any of these be interpreted

it's pretty straight forward though

[KareBear]

Jeez what year is this, I can't believe people still think like this

To answer the question, marriages should be equal. What makes a man more capable to be the leader in the relationship than the woman? If both worked and the woman wanted to be the leader while the man was submissive would you support that too? What if the guy is an idiot should the woman sit back and support his decision because he's a man? In plenty of those marriages women feel trapped because they don't have a voice and men like that typically don't believe they should.

Seriously, if the bible is your source then that's too bad because its really flawed. I can't at men sometimes. This is why I don't want to get married.

[Penk]

Slavery was just one example. We just shouldn't be using the bible as a guide on how we should live our lives now, plains and simple. There's nothing wrong with the bible, but some of the stuff in it is just backwards thinking.

[Ryuuchan_X]

If I was a straight guy I would prefer a strong independent woman who don't need no man.

[J a y]

Originally posted by Callum

What kind of spoiler. Reminds me that I need to catch up though.

As for the topic: No idea what this is really about but going by the rage in here, I'm sure I disagree with it too.

[Mikeymoonshine]

Originally posted by Javan

So I guess you skipped the 17 chapters in which God came down to earth as Jesus to teach his faith correctly? The sheer ignorance.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

Once again. that was not his purpose, that's not what it says in the bible. His purpose was to die for our sins. He never condemned or challenged anything in the old testament.

[Tempest116]

I'm fine with the man being the head of the family if the husband is capable. In my mind, being the head of the family doesn't mean I do everything my husband says. It means, I allow him to take the lead in decisions concerning the family's advancement. That doesn't mean that we won't have discussions/agreements before making big decisions.

[Planet Mars]

Originally posted by Penk

Slavery was just one example. We just shouldn't be using the bible as a guide on how we should live our lives now, plains and simple. There's nothing wrong with the bible, but some of the stuff in it is just backwards thinking.

Well, we certainly shouldnt allow media/celebrity to dictate our lives either

I chose to base my life on grounded teachings that have stood the test of time and remain relevant today years after they were first put in
print.

I most certaintly do not want to dictate my life myself, i am aware i know nothing, so allowing myself to be my own boss is like self destruction.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

http://www.openbible.info/topics/slavery

Haha. Funny. I'm asking for a direct quote that claims Slavery is ok. And explain yourself cos I see nothing of the sort in that link you sent.

[Planet Mars]

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

Once again. that was not his purpose, that's not what it says in the bible. His purpose was to die for our sins. He never condemned or challenged anything in the old testament.

By fufilling prophecy he meant that of a savior come to redeem mankind, and reconcile us back to God

With Jesus's comming ALOT of what was practiced during the old testament was adapted/changed.