[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JessPop

What Are the Health Risks of Overweight and Obesity?

Being overweight or obese isn't a cosmetic problem. These conditions greatly raise your risk for other health problems.
Overweight and Obesity-Related Health Problems in Adults
Coronary Heart Disease

As your body mass index rises, so does your risk for coronary heart disease (CHD). CHD is a condition in which a waxy substance called plaque (plak) builds up inside the coronary arteries. These arteries supply oxygen-rich blood to your heart.

Plaque can narrow or block the coronary arteries and reduce blood flow to the heart muscle. This can cause angina (an-JI-nuh or AN-juh-nuh) or a heart attack. (Angina is chest pain or discomfort.)

Obesity also can lead to heart failure. This is a serious condition in which your heart can't pump enough blood to meet your body's needs.

Firstly. You just posted without a link to the article which is infringement.

...but you also made no distinction between the different types and degrees of being overweight and obese.


My argument is based on the fact that lower degrees of being overweight or obese does NOT carry health risks.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by MLover

But saying class 1 lives a healthy life is misleading. Most people that are in class2-3 used to be in class 1.

Obviously....since you have to go through one to reach the other.

However, as I stated before. Being class 1 does not inherently mean that you are on the way to class 2/3. Most people will stabalize once they reach adulthood. If someone is 35 and overweight or class 1 then they will probably be fine.

[MLover]

Originally posted by LoveInStereo

We focus so much on the aesthetic aspect of weight when it's a health concern. Being just overweight is one thing, but so many obese people aren't even told by their doctors to lose weight because our culture stigmatizes criticizing people's weight. And we're taught to give cigarette smokers dirty looks because they're "killing themselves", even though morbidly obese people will face more direct health complications than smokers and all at their own hands. Over it.

I agree with that. We are to focused on not hurting the persons feelings which is why a lot of people won't advice or discuss the topic since they don't want to "fat shame" while in reality that is a whole different thing. It bothers me that even doctors are afraid of doing so.

[JessPop]

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/heal...obe/risks.html

I apologize everyone. Please do educate yourselves on how being overweight and obese leads to many life-threatening diseases. I encourage everyone to take the time throughout their day-to-day to get up and get some fresh air and not be so in their feelings about being overweight because change is always possible.

[eddy223]

My roommate is a bigger girl and she is ALWAYS yelling at me telling me I "fat shame" her. Like bye I do not. It gets annoying when someone who's bigger is always complaining about their weight, and is always saying they need to eat better and want to change their eating habits, but when you advise them to order a different food, or let them know they ate too much, they get crazy and start calling you a fat shamer.

Like don't come crying to me with "I want to lose weight, I want to eat better!" then come at me with knives when I point out what you're eating is wrong to help you out

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JessPop

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/heal...obe/risks.html

I apologize everyone. Please do educate yourselves on how being overweight and obese leads to many life-threatening diseases. I encourage everyone to take the time throughout their day-to-day and get some fresh air and not be so in their feelings about being overweight because change is always possible.

What are you trying to prove exactly?

That you are incredibly efficient at ignoring others peoples points and reposting information without context over and over?

This is like the definition of ignorance. When you clump people together such as the overweight and class one obese with people who are class 2/3 you are helping no one and providing misleading information.

[bleuwaffle]

Originally posted by maiko

It has been shown that certain groups of people are more prone to diseases that cause slower metabolic rates (like diabetes) and fat storage, which could lead to obesity and often does.

That wouldn't be the issue if they ate healthily and exercised.

[BlackStar_93]

Absolutely not. I also don't understand how people can fat shame, yet in the past I've been underweight and nobody's ever "shamed" me, when being underweight is just as unhealthy as being over.

At the end of the day, it'll be that persons family/friends who tell them they might need to loose weight - they don't need strangers/acquaintances doing it. I wish the world wasn't so superficial, because one of my friends is obese, and when I'm talking to her the fact she's "big" doesn't even cross my mind. She is who she is.

Also, it's shocking what people consider fat nowawdays. Even if people's BMI is the top end of healthy (24/25), they get fat shamed!! i.e Liam Payne. It's shocking. A person's size and waistline is their own discretion, we don't need every single damn person pointing out our insecurities.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by eddy223

My roommate is a bigger girl and she is ALWAYS yelling at me telling me I "fat shame" her. Like bye I do not. It gets annoying when someone who's bigger is always complaining about their weight, and is always saying they need to eat better and want to change their eating habits, but when you advise them to order a different food, or let them know they ate too much, they get crazy and start calling you a fat shamer.

Like don't come crying to me with "I want to lose weight, I want to eat better!" then come at me with knives when I point out what you're eating is wrong to help you out

I think Wafflinson is one of those people that would get upset about someone informing him or her that they're overweight. I personally think that your roommate should be more open to your suggestions on how to live a positive and healthy lifestyle instead of threatening you with a steak knife as she slurps on McDonald's.

[BlackStar_93]

Originally posted by bleuwaffle

That wouldn't be the issue if they ate healthily and exercised.

Some people who are overweight is just down to laziness, but please don't disregard the fact that binge-eating/over-eating is actually an eating disorder. It's a mental condition.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JessPop

I think Wafflinson is one of those people that would get upset about someone informing him or her that they're overweight. I personally think that your roommate should be more open to your suggestions on how to live a positive and healthy lifestyle instead of threatening you with a steak knife as she slurps on McDonald's.

Oh please. You are so condescending for someone who knows so little.

1. I am not even overweight. I am just tired of people HARDING (and yes that is what you are doing) for being overweight or class 1 obese where there is NO scientific evidence showing health risks at those weights.

2. We have NO context about her roomate as to whether or not she even needs to lose weight. "Bigger girl" could mean anything from a 28 BMI to a 40 BMI.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

What are you trying to prove exactly?

That you are incredibly efficient at ignoring others peoples points and reposting information without context over and over?

This is like the definition of ignorance. When you clump people together such as the overweight and class one obese with people who are class 2/3 you are helping no one and providing misleading information.

And what is so misleading about what I posted exactly? It's a link on which you could click and educate yourself on a rising obesity problem in America and the risks associated with being overweight and obese in general. That's not misleading at all. They're called facts on the consequences of not trying to better yourself.

[eddy223]

Originally posted by JessPop

I think Wafflinson is one of those people that would get upset about someone informing him or her that they're overweight. I personally think that your roommate should be more open to your suggestions on how to live a positive and healthy lifestyle instead of threatening you with a steak knife as she slurps on McDonald's.

I know!

There are days when she listens and doesn't care, but then there are days when she snaps and starts going crazy telling me she never asked me to point out what she eats and never asked me to "fat shame" her like bitch bye. Happened this Easter weekend in Vegas with friends, I had to shut her up by telling her okay, i'll remember that next time you decide to cry to me about your weight the table got real awkward after that.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JessPop

And what is so misleading about what I posted exactly? It's a link on which you could click and educate yourself on a rising obesity problem in America and the risks associated with being overweight and obese in general. That's not misleading at all. They're called facts on the consequences of not trying to better yourself.

Yes it is when I already posted evidence showing that HOW overweight you are dramatically changes the health risks. Yet you ignore it and continue with pointless generalizations. The information that you posted itself is not wrong, but the INTENT of your post to imply that all people who are overweight or obese face these risks is easy to see.

When you tell someone who is overweight (or even slightly into class one obese) that they need to change their lifestyle because they are doing something bad you are wrong, you are hurting them, and you are more than likely going to push them into emotional eating or an eating disorder. People DIE because of the type of advice you are giving. People in HEALTHY ranges need to be encourage to keep doing what they are doing (this includes the overweight and class 1 obese) not shamed into making lifestyle changes which will make them less healthy


Help those who need help. Not those who don't.



This attitude is exactly why there is such a movement to destigmatize being overweight. Until this stigma is gone we cannot have an actual discussion and distribute accurate information to those who need it.

[Kartrashian]

There is a reason why most humans naturally aren't attracted to obese people, it's called natural selection. It's our internal way of survival to gravitate towards those that are healthiest, therefore promotes healthiness within the population. Obviously there's a line between being curvy, but if you're clearly overweight due to lifestyle issues you should probably fix that. This is coming from a health perspective.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by eddy223

I know!

There are days when she listens and doesn't care, but then there are days when she snaps and starts going crazy telling me she never asked me to point out what she eats and never asked me to "fat shame" her like bitch bye. Happened this Easter weekend in Vegas with friends, I had to shut her up by telling her okay, i'll remember that next time you decide to cry to me about your weight the table got real awkward after that.

Yeah you should just let her do her thing and not get involved. Some people just don't want to be helped and when she's serious if you're still there living with her then maybe y'all could go for a run together or something to help motivate her.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by Kartrashian

There is a reason why humans naturally aren't attracted to fat people, it's called natural selection. It's our internal way of survival to gravitate towards those that are healthiest, therefore promotes healthiness within the population. Obviously there's a line between being curvy, but if you're clearly overweight you should probably fix that. This is coming from a health perspective.

Can we at least not make things up?

There are many documented times in history when being heavy was considered a very desirable trait.

Being overweight was a sign that you could provide for youself and your family.

[Kartrashian]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

Can we at least not make things up?

There are many documented times in history when being heavy was considered a very desirable trait.

Being overweight was a sign that you could provide for youself and your family.

I edited it to be more rational, but yes, not 'fat' but 'obese'. And I clearly mentioned there was a line between being fat because of genetic reasons (i.e. curvy) than fat because of self-inflicted lifestyle reasons.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by Kartrashian

There is a reason why most humans naturally aren't attracted to obese people, it's called natural selection. It's our internal way of survival to gravitate towards those that are healthiest, therefore promotes healthiness within the population. Obviously there's a line between being curvy, but if you're clearly overweight due to lifestyle issues you should probably fix that. This is coming from a health perspective.

Exactly. That's all I'm saying but I'm being termed as "insensitive" and "misleading". There is very clear evidence that being overweight leads to debilitating diseases and it should be addressed early on before it gets really out of hand.

[KK_Lover]

I agree with you i mean you gave an advice and you did it for their health !!! on the other hand no one asked you an advice so they can perceive your message as a offense…