[Wafflecakes]

#Truefact

People who are overweight by BMI (but not Obese) have a lower risk of death and live just as long as people of normal weight.

The amount of times I see people shaming people who are only slightly to moderately overweight is gross. Especially considering the fact that they are probably more healthy than the skinny bitches doing the shaming.

[Hooligan]

It's not my place to tell someone else how to live their life.

[Euphoric]

If the person doesn't want your opinion then you better stfu and keep it to yourself. It is non of your business to comment on their lifestyle if you don't know exactly whats going on with them. if you know the person and concern about her/him then it is a different story but there is a line that you don't have to cross and that is humiliating them causing them to feel bad about themselves which is the last thing that they need.

[MLover]

Originally posted by JessPop

If you're going to use the word "shame" then you're going to continue to get responses similar to the one that I posted previously. The word "shame" is always going to be associated with humiliation and pain and that is the ONLY relevant definition when having a discussion based around the use of that particular word. Words actually do mean things and if you'd like to have some other discussion about obesity then maybe you should rethink using the term "fat shaming" while expecting a different response that doesn't direct back to the term being used at hand.

GOD let me write this again. Some people have a different definition for the term fat shaming!!! Those people believe that talking about a healthy lifestyle = fat shaming which is not correct. I wanna know everyone definition since the ones I've met have had a different one from the original term. Maybe you should write your post to them instead. READ THE OP NEXT TIME

[onna]

I think its disgusting, just like I think its disgusting to shame others for being skinny. Just because you think someone's weight isn't normal doesn't mean you should put them down for it. People hurt themselves over things like that.

[MLover]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

#Truefact

People who are overweight by BMI (but not Obese) have a lower risk of death and live just as long as people of normal weight.

The amount of times I see people shaming people who are only slightly to moderately overweight is gross. Especially considering the fact that they are probably more healthy than the skinny bitches doing the shaming.

You're against fat shaming but still call skinny women as skinny bitches

[DevonDreams]

Originally posted by BeBeMint

I dont think complete strangers should tell others to lose weight but if its someone you love then u shouldnt tell them they look beautiful fat because 1 ur probably lying and 2 it has negative health consequences

this

[JessPop]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

#Truefact

People who are overweight by BMI (but not Obese) have a lower risk of death and live just as long as people of normal weight.

The amount of times I see people shaming people who are only slightly to moderately overweight is gross. Especially considering the fact that they are probably more healthy than the skinny bitches doing the shaming.

There are very many real and life-threatening health concerns and risks associated with being overweight. Period. I just happen to be of the opinion that happiness and health (mentally and physically) usually starts on the inside and then begins to show on the outside and shaming doesn't encourage a positive mental space for personal growth and weight loss to occur.

[DevonDreams]

It's not helping a person if you outright tell them they are fat. That's rude and will damage their self esteem.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by MLover

You're against fat shaming but still call skinny women as skinny bitches

Yes I do.... because there is no inherent stigma against skinny people. In society it is seen as a positive.

(..and I was not referring to just women)


It is not at all the same as calling someone fat. Which has a negative stigma.

[MLover]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

Yes I do.... because there is no inherent stigma against skinny people. In society it is seen as a positive.

(..and I was not referring to just women)


It is not at all the same as calling someone fat. Which has a negative stigma.

True fat shaming has a much more negative stigma than skinny shaming but that still does not make it correct. The same way obese people feel insecure about their weight skinny people do too.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by JessPop

There are very many real and life-threatening health concerns and risks associated with being overweight. Period. I just happen to be of the opinion that happiness and health (mentally and physically) usually starts on the inside and then begins to show on the outside and shaming doesn't encourage a positive mental space for personal growth and weight loss to occur.

What does this have to do with my post?

My point was that there is a GIGANTIC difference between being overweight and obese, and most people do not make the distinction.

There is nothing wrong with being overweight, and as I said there are no significant associated health risks with having a somewhat higher BMI than the average.

Being Obese is unhealthy.

[Maiko]

Originally posted by MLover

You're against fat shaming but still call skinny women as skinny bitches

This a serious topic, but were still on ATRL.

Besides, Wafflinson is one of the only members that can and does offer genuine advice
On this topic

[JessPop]

Originally posted by MLover

GOD let me write this again. Some people have a different definition for the term fat shaming!!! Those people believe that talking about a healthy lifestyle = fat shaming which is not correct. I wanna know everyone definition since the ones I've met have had a different one from the original term. Maybe you should write your post to them instead. READ THE OP NEXT TIME

And I AM TELLING YOU that there is only ONE formal association with the word "shame" in this context so it really doesn't matter what "other" uninformed and overall insensitive people think. Shaming is shaming. Period.

[Wafflecakes]

Originally posted by MLover

True fat shaming has a much more negative stigma than skinny shaming but that still does not make it correct. The same way obese people feel insecure about their weight skinny people do too.

...and if this were an anorexia thread I would not use the term.

I was making a point that people who are skinny feel superior and tend to talk down to the obese. When really they have no clue what they are talking about.

[MLover]

Originally posted by maiko

This a serious topic, but were still on ATRL.

Besides, Wafflinson is one of the only members that can and does offer genuine advice
On this topic

[Wafflecakes]

I normally don't admit this because people on ATRL are a judgmental lot, but at one point I was class 3 obese.

Over the last few years I lost 110 lbs. So yes I am passionate about the issue.

[Silvaasunto]

Originally posted by MLover

Aren't we letting it slide then? Society has no problem discussing other health problems such as smoking, drinking, varies diseases but not obesity. I would obviously never walk up to a complete stranger and give them an advice since that is rude I'm talking more about people you know family members friends etc.

I agree 100% with you on this. Obesity is such a taboo topic not only in the US but all over the world. Of course if you want to aboard this topic with someone you always have to put on the other person shoes and think what you are about to say.

That being said, obesity is not only a public health problem, but it does affect other people's life as a society. As we all know obese people are more likely to develope diabetes, hearth problems and tons of diseases including cancer, plus their childs have more risk to be obese/overweight than people with normal body mass index. Also people with high weight are more likely to suffer from depression and mental problems, now with the rise of overweight population in schools, that could not only affect their social behaviour but also affect their scholar development with huge problems in their future as citizens and grown up people.

I'm giving my opinion as a med student, of course some people can be overweight/obese because of other problems (hyperthyroidism for example), but in general, obesity CAN be be fought with simple things such as healthy diet and regular exercise. I'm not saying that all people should have supermodel bodies (even tho that would be nice ), but having a healthy body isn't an impossible thing

Now, of course if you meet someone with obesity you can't tell 'em 3 minutes after you talk to them "HEY, DON'T BE OBESE!", but of course if you keep in touch with them for a considerable amount of time, it would be nice from you to have a chat with them and tell them that maybe they should improve their lifestyle, always trying to not hurt them feelling of course. Stuff like this can be taken as rude at the begining, but if you talk with them in the correct way, it can be the begining of a new a waay better life

Ps: sorry for the bad english and the long ass paragraph lol

[MLover]

Originally posted by JessPop

And I AM TELLING YOU that there is only ONE formal association with the word "shame" in this context so it really doesn't matter what "other" uninformed and overall insensitive people think. Shaming is shaming. Period.

Don't you think I'm aware of that? Had you actually read to OP you've would have know that. NEXT TIME READ THE OP.

[MLover]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

I normally don't admit this because people on ATRL are a judgmental lot, but at one point I was class 3 obese.

Over the last few years I lost 110 lbs. So yes I am passionate about the issue.

WOW that is great. I'm passionate too since I used to be overweight. Great job Wafflinson I know myself how hard it can be!!