Oooop! Don't hurt 'em!
Christina's renditions of soul and R&B songs just show her limitations. It's always "HEYYYUEUEUUAOAAAOAOIAIAIAIAOAOoOooEUEUAIiYYYY YY!" That's not soul singing. That's a minstrel show.
But Bey's latest televized performances are lipped. So, not worthy as a ''VOICE OF A GENERATION''
Mariah & Whitney lip synched too please. Drunken wasnt lipsynch in full; only the part she sat on the girating platform. if you cant hear the difference now inauguration was an accompagnying recorded track; she sang at the same time & you know it when she removes her earings in the middle.
Oooop! Don't hurt 'em!
Christina's renditions of soul and R&B songs just show her limitations. It's always "HEYYYUEUEUUAOAAAOAOIAIAIAIAOAOoOooEUEUAIiYYYY YY!" That's not soul singing. That's a minstrel show.
But thats not what Im talking about. I was refering to the tone and color of her voice, not her technique. She was simply born with a voice that is not very recognizable or interesting and while you can improve the quality of your voice by mastering various singing techniques, you cant really change how it sounds. Her style and phrasing, while technically very good, are not recognizable either (take for example the unique style of Ella Fitzgerald or Tracy Chapman if you dont know what I mean).
ughhh, no@the 1st. Just no. I loved her I'd Rather Go Blind Cover but the 1st one? I'm sorry but that wasn't exactly the best cover she's done, at all. Then again, Kelly did say she was under the weather that day. Still, not showing Kelly is a good light there
But thats not what Im talking about. I was refering to the tone and color of her voice, not her technique. She was simply born with a voice that is not very recognizable or interesting and while you can improve the quality of your voice by mastering various singing techniques, you cant really change how it sounds. Her style and phrasing, while technically very good, are not recognizable either (take for example the unique style of Ella Fitzgerald or Tracy Chapman if you dont know what I mean).
I agree that her vocal color and quality do not compare to those ladies and I know exactly what you mean.
However, in terms of phrasing, the girl doesn't really phrase. Maybe that's why it's not recognizable.She just adds in 53945003 notes.
I'm glad you brought up Ella. Her phrasing was the top. The way she approached the lyrics, the way she delivered her ideas, the way she expressed the meaning of the words musically...no one could really imitate her.
However, Christina's vocal "tics" and ululating certainly are recognizable.
I agree that her vocal color and quality do not compare to those ladies and I know exactly what you mean.
However, in terms of phrasing, the girl doesn't really phrase. Maybe that's why it's not recognizable.She just adds in 53945003 notes.
I'm glad you brought up Ella. Her phrasing was the top. The way she approached the lyrics, the way she delivered her ideas, the way she expressed the meaning of the words musically...no one could really imitate her.
However, Christina's vocal "tics" and ululating certainly are recognizable.
100% agreed.
About Christina, I had to turn her off a few times. The way she sometimes abuses her vocal chords, gosh, that is sheer masochism.
I agree that her vocal color and quality do not compare to those ladies and I know exactly what you mean.
However, in terms of phrasing, the girl doesn't really phrase. Maybe that's why it's not recognizable.She just adds in 53945003 notes.
I'm glad you brought up Ella. Her phrasing was the top. The way she approached the lyrics, the way she delivered her ideas, the way she expressed the meaning of the words musically...no one could really imitate her.
However, Christina's vocal "tics" and ululating certainly are recognizable.
you're incredibly tame today, Chimier..
I'm impressed
About Christina, I had to turn her off a few times. The way she sometimes abuses her vocal chords, gosh, that is sheer masochism.
That's why I can't listen to her. It's just noise. Constant oversinging (and it's very unmusical) and straining, shouting and yelling. Very self-indulgent.
This is the man that ranked higher than both Whitney and Mariah
That same list excluded that greatest vocal giants of our time: Barbra and Ella
There goes Rolling Stone's credibility.
That list compiled was never intended to be an assessment of actual vocal skill
Rolling Stones lost the credibility they had in the 90's; I just didn't want to spark another conversation with some delusionals haterz here you know. but yeah; they give almost all albums 3.5 stars /5...to say the least; there are many disappointments about them; even their legendary readers are complaining;
The video in the OP has everything clearly laid out....
Can your fave do better?? Can your fave even do it at all? And I mean ALL OF IT...
Coming into a post like this with your opinions on how Beyonce's voice sound TO YOU is not proving anything. Coming in here saying the names of other artists that can not even match the content in the OP video proves nothing. Coming in here disputing what you think the term voice of our generation means proves nothing. You all look like you're mad Beyonce has so much talent so you're reaching and grasping for ANYTHING to downplay it. I like to call that being pressed....
And further more ( for whoever claimed Christina is the voice of our generation because of songs like Fighter and Beautiful ) Beyonce takes the title in that context as well. How can you say songs about empowerment and independence are not topics our generation can relate to??
Beyonce has been sticking up for women through her music since she started. Maybe you're a man? Because songs like Bills, Bills, Bills, Say My Name and Independent Woman have encouraged many women not to take the crap men try to pull. I mean, I can continue to name songs but the way you have so in depthly discussed Beyonces abilities I have to assume you are familiar with her entire discography, and if that isn't the case, I can't see how you have been in here so long arguing against something you know nothing about....
YASSS at Alejandrawrrr spilling the tea!! I don't even like her music but as I said before, I know she's better than my faves (Technique wise) and if you can't accept it A) ou're Pressed B) Don't know about vocals C) Both
I don't have anything else to add, I simply second what people who know about singing have said.
Ohh well, Demi is actually better than Kelly, even if her voice falls in the Lyric Soprano category and her voice isn't made for singing low notes her lower register is fine
And this cover of How to Love is just incredible! She's continuosly hitting notes in the 5th octave from 1:47 to the end, not to mention how fast is the run at 2:28 and how accurate and resonant is the run to A5 at 2:44 you can distinguish EVERY note on that run!
And she not anly can hit high notes but hit them repeatedly, like this F5s WITHOUT MICROPHONE at 2:08
So if your fave can't do this don't even come for Beyonce's vocals cause they're even better
No, I wasn't saying that her notes below that region aren't resonant. She's resonant throughout the scale, but she's got more resonance in the upper part (arguably because she's a Lyric and blooms as she ascends). It's true. That's the area where she's got the most "power".
And I was faulting her at all, I simply said she doesn't have an upper register - she doesn't. F5 is still middle, technically. She's gone beyond that point, yes, but doesn't really have the coordination there the way she does in the middle register. But, another reason I find her matter of fact. There are Mezzos who transcend their general expectancy (namely Anastacia, a lower Mezzo than Beyonce)
And again, never said her head voice lacks resonance. However, she's yet to resonate an E-flat 6 Octave the way she can with C6 in emotions. Eb6 isn't a note I'd consider her in complete full control of. Her other head notes are a lot stronger than the higher 6th octave notes. Leona has accessed 6th octave notes via HV before....Christina? Thin and colourless, unarguably falsetto.
As for her texture. It's monotonous. Look at Vanessa, who can go from crystal clear texture to raspy and gritty. Her texture is dynamic. Beyonce? Simply clear. Again, to me, her voice just comes off as extremely matter of fact. Hence basic. Her voice simply isn't for me. I admire the way she uses her instrument, though. And you know what they say, the tool is only as good as the person who wields it. So, that there says something, I guess. Me personally? It's not my cup of tea. There are other voices I believe to be a bit more interesting and more dynamic than Beyonce's.
Also, @22 two's.....why would I EVER be pressed? Over Beyonce?
Here she hits an Eb6 just as effortlessly and with just as much resonance as she hits the C6. It doesn't sound pushed or forced. It doesn't look like it was hard for her either.
Beyonce is one of the few vocalists today whose range is completely connected and supported in every register.
Absolutely not, Kelly Clarkson and Christina are much better for a start. I would also say P!nk, Adele and probably Demi too. I don't know why you're all laughing at Adele Addict, he was pretty spot on.
Also at those trying to compare Bey to Mariah and Whitney. Two are legends, the other is not and never will be. The utter delusion .
I think it's the certantiy in you guy's words that annoys me the most.....you speak like you're so sure of yourself when you don't even know the first thing about what you're talking about
Of COURSE you're gonna think every other artist you listen to is gonna be better than Beyonce in your opinion, but if you actually watch that video you will definitely realize your fave does not do the things that Beyonce does with her voice....plain and simple
I think it's the certantiy in you guy's words that annoys me the most.....you speak like you're so sure of yourself when you don't even know the first thing about what you're talking about
Of COURSE you're gonna think every other artist you listen to is gonna be better than Beyonce in your opinion, but if you actually watch that video you will definitely realize your fave does not do the things that Beyonce does with her voice....plain and simple
lemme repost it here in case....
they probably don't watch it because they are afraid to be put on shame. full stop.
YASSS at Alejandrawrrr spilling the tea!! I don't even like her music but as I said before, I know she's better than my faves (Technique wise) and if you can't accept it A) ou're Pressed B) Don't know about vocals C) Both
I don't have anything else to add, I simply second what people who know about singing have said.
Ohh well, Demi is actually better than Kelly, even if her voice falls in the Lyric Soprano category and her voice isn't made for singing low notes her lower register is fine
inauguration was an accompagnying recorded track; she sang at the same time & you know it when she removes her earings in the middle.
praise the voices of their generations
if Mariah is 79th what kind of list is it... ??? I would be happy even with beyoncé at #101
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at those trying to compare Bey to Mariah and Whitney. Two are legends, the other is not and never will be. The utter delusion