But that's the thing, BGKC -- perspective is needed. The music industry has changed. Do you really believe that record labels actually care about critical success or a single being timeless? The record label will take commercial success over critical success any day, even moreso in today's music market than in the past. So, yes, "Roar" may be vapid and may never be timeless, but do you really think Capitol (or Katy Perry, for that matter) cares when their making millions off of one single. Just one single. Not five, or six singles -- millions off of one single. "Singles artists" like Katy Perry and Ke$ha aren't going anywhere, anytime soon. And labels don't care if their singles are timeless or whether they'll be legends. Only Beyoncé wants to be a legend, which she oddly stated out loud: "I want to be a legend." The bigger, more complicated question is: Why?
...Vin
I agree with this sentiment, but what I was pointing out was the future. 5-10 years from now, how many of these "best selling singles of the digital era" do you think will be replaced/forgotten? The Digital era immediately spewed some of the best selling singles of all time, and the digital era is still just a baby. They'll keep spewing them and the replacements will come.
To me singles are most important, it's what the GP identifies an artist by, it's how artists are remembered, it's the impact they make. Then albums, cause that's really what the music industry is still about, releasing albums and how well they do in how many territories. And lastly touring, cause tours are mostly invisible to the GP, it's more of a fan thing. While it's true artists make most of their money from touring, I stan for music, not money, so it's not very important to me.
Touring while the said artist is still musically relevant is really overrated; but if someone hasn't had a hit album in 20 years and can still tour, that shows impact!
It's impossible to know what is more important. Singles are what most people know but sometimes it does not go further than the tune. A lot of people don't know if a song is from avicii or flo rida. It starts being important when people actually recognize the aetist (best example: rihlord).
Album sales say a lot in the importance of an artist but nobody buys albums nowadays. Unless you are adele, only a small fraction of the population will buy your album.
Tours are very important for the artist to earn money but don't necessarily measure musical popularity. In beys concert the vast majority didn't know 4 and BEYONCE album tracks and the concert sold out in minutes meaning that they bought the tickets only because it was beyonce the great live act.
Touring while the said artist is still musically relevant is really overrated; but if someone hasn't had a hit album in 20 years and can still tour, that shows impact!
I dunno. Take Depeche Mode for example. They have a very loyal following that allows them to still pull off these massive tours. But does the average person know anything about Depeche Mode? I don't even know what their signature song is.
I think y'all are giving "singles" too much hold. Especially when only very few songs really stand the test of time at the end of the day. Talent/influence is more what people are remembered by in the long run. Paula Abdul had a lot of hit singles but she was practically irrelevant. If it wasn't for American Idol a lot of people today wouldn't even know who she is.
I think y'all are giving "singles" too much hold. Especially when only very few songs really stand the test of time at the end of the day. Talent/influence is more what people are remembered by in the long run. Paula Abdul had a lot of hit singles but she was practically irrelevant. If it wasn't for American Idol a lot of people today wouldn't even know who she is.
We're not saying that every hit single is remembered, but that if an artist is remembered, it will be because of certain hit singles.
But that's the thing, BGKC -- perspective is needed. The music industry has changed. Do you really believe that record labels actually care about critical success or a single being timeless? The record label will take commercial success over critical success any day, even moreso in today's music market than in the past. So, yes, "Roar" may be vapid and may never be timeless, but do you really think Capitol (or Katy Perry, for that matter) cares when their making millions off of one single. Just one single. Not five, or six singles -- millions off of one single. "Singles artists" like Katy Perry and Ke$ha aren't going anywhere, anytime soon. And labels don't care if their singles are timeless or whether they'll be legends. Only Beyoncé wants to be a legend, which she oddly stated out loud: "I want to be a legend." The bigger, more complicated question is: Why?
...Vin
Ugh.
She wants to be a legend, because she just cares about image and her actual output. It's not rocket science to figure that one out. It's hilarious how you can talk about Kesha on and on defending her left and right as if she's some established act (and a personal friend) when she is a flop/joke. So not respected as well. And don't give me ****ing Timber receipts. No one gives a **** about features. It could've been anybody and the song, unfortunately, would still be a moderate hit. It's like early 2013 when Britbot fans were desperately hanging on to Scream & Shout for longevity and relevance. Borderline pathetic and sad. Get over yourself.
We're not saying that every hit single is remembered, but that if an artist is remembered, it will be because of certain hit singles.
Not really. The only nostalgic artists really identifiable in this day and age by their hit singles are legends and icons (Michael Jackson, Bob Marley, Madonna, Prince, Stevie Wonder, etc.) and those people are legends because of their talent/influence not just because they had hit singles.
I have to say the single concept really may not count for Beyonce, at least in the US. I don't some of you understand how much she is like by most people compared to other pop artist here. She is no doubt a legend here, and is not being forgotten anytime soon no matter if she flops with the rest of her albums.
Worldwide well... I have no idea about that
Crazy In Love is a classic here so far, everyone knows that song
Britney is 10x the legend Beyonce is. When you say legend, you say 'you can look but you can't touch', which is exactly what britney is all about. Beyonce tries to market herself as such but no mam.
Singles are very important in establishing a legacy/being remembered.
However, when your career lives and dies by the singles you're putting out, that's never a good thing and that's why Kesha and Katy stans shouldn't brag about their singles success. Most of their music is trendy and nothing to build a long lasting or respectful career off of. Both brought/bring it a lot of cash for themselves and their labels but eventually they're going to fall out of favor with the public (Kesha pretty much already has).
More artists should focus on making more timeless, classic music. Even if you never have another hit again, as long as you have one timeless classic song or album, you're pretty much set for life.
I dunno. Take Depeche Mode for example. They have a very loyal following that allows them to still pull off these massive tours. But does the average person know anything about Depeche Mode? I don't even know what their signature song is.
NP: Tiziano Ferro
Maybe you should try more music then? It's pretty challenging living outside of your comfort zone FOR ONCE.
Oh and it's this:
Like, how can you NOT know this? Jesus ****ing Christ.
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The fact that I not only knew her as a kid but stanned for her when she's a country act shows that she was a big deal.
