[Kang.]

Originally posted by Save-Me-Oprah

That gets into a whole other can of worms about sampling.

Does sampling like crazy affect artistic integrity? Is rapping/singing over music and/or hooks that were made years beforehand a good practice for somebody who holds themselves in such high regard?

Why would it, and why would it not be?

Nothing is ever "new"

[Sinister]

what does glorified pop even mean???

[Vin]

Originally posted by johnsuxx

I'm really gonna need a new wave of pop music to get rid of this Urban mess, a la 2009-10.

We can't just rely on Katy and Rihanna to save the genre forever

I wouldn't care if the urban music was actually good.
R&B, or what's considered R&B today, is such a joke right now. "Happy" is awful.

...Vin

[Kat]

Originally posted by Save-Me-Oprah

That gets into a whole other can of worms about sampling.

Does sampling like crazy affect artistic integrity? Is rapping/singing over music and/or hooks that were made years beforehand a good practice for somebody who holds themselves in such high regard? Or should the music be more or less original & sampling kept to a minimum?

These are good discussions.

The artistic integrity thing associated with sampling isn't as big of an issue with Kanye, in my opinion. It kind of seems like he's moved beyond using samples as hooks and instead uses them to help illustrate the point of the song or whatever. I don't know...maybe that's just me.

[Starburst]

Interscope always mishandles their biggest artists' releases.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by johnsuxx

The "Urban" songs getting big (Happy, Talk Dirty, etc.) are just glorified pop songs.

I wouldn't be so annoyed if the songs doing well were actually good

And the R&B/hip hop females are still struggling, so the industry is going to become (even) more male reliant, which is gross

Happy is a funk song though. The new R&B females aren't struggling (Jhené & Sevyn and all the other ones) and BEYONCÉ isn't either. Nicki is essentially female Rap, and even so, she's on a high buzz currently.

Considering no black artist went #1 in 2013, I think Urban has the right to take over.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Sampling is just a new way of thinking about creating music with the technologies available in today's world. It's no more or less musical than any other form of composition.

[FattMatt]

Originally posted by johnsuxx

The "Urban" songs getting big (Happy, Talk Dirty, etc.) are just glorified pop songs.

I wouldn't be so annoyed if the songs doing well were actually good

And the R&B/hip hop females are still struggling, so the industry is going to become (even) more male reliant, which is gross

Ke$ha would not support this sexism

[johnsuxx]

Originally posted by Vin

I wouldn't care if the urban music was actually good.
R&B, or what's considered R&B today, is such a joke right now. "Happy" is awful.

...Vin

It's glorified pop music, which would be getting slated if a female singer put it out

It's obvious considering the female R&B singers are still struggling along

[BeamMeUp]

Happy is terrible. It's a huge bit just because it's a huge hit. Something about a song from a lesser known artist going #1 in a few countries really makes people overly interested.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Originally posted by J. YONCÉ

Sampling is just a new way of thinking about creating music with the technologies available in today's world. It's no more or less musical than any other form of composition.

Fair point.

[BabyCantYouSee]

This gif is better than Kesha's career.

[Sinister]

Pharrell was the lead of one of the biggest tracks last year

I wouldnt say hes unknown

[Ainsworth]

#SELFIE deserves Happy's success & more.

[Braz]

Originally posted by BeamMeUp

Happy is terrible. It's a huge bit just because it's a huge hit. Something about a song from a lesser known artist going #1 in a few countries really makes people overly interested.

[johnsuxx]

This Pharrell hype won't last for very long considering all the songs he make sound the same

[Lord Blackout]

I literally dislike Happy. Such a boring song.

Blurred Lines was such a great song and I get why it was so success. It was literally party in your car when it came on.

[Nippy'sReceipts]

I like Happy. The mix of neosoul vocal with the gospel undertones.
I'm surprised it became a huge hit tho.

[bijonse]

Originally posted by johnsuxx

This Pharrell hype won't last for very long considering all the songs he make sound the same

p!nk has been around for 10+ years tho?

[BeamMeUp]

Originally posted by Sinister

Pharrell was the lead of one of the biggest tracks last year

I wouldnt say hes unknown

*lesser known.

When an unconventional song goes #1 it gets people interested. & it's easier when it comes from lesser known artists for many reasons.