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Poll: More Iconic: Hilary or Raven?
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View Poll Results: More iconic?
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Neither are iconic 
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Originally posted by gerardsuxx
But Hilary actually has more things than a TV Show
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And none of it makes her iconic because nobody other than those who watched Disney Channel from 2001-2004 knows about her and none of her music or anything else has lived on beyond her little stanosphere. She has zero recurrent airplay or sales. Literally zero.
I wouldn't say Raven is necessarily iconic either, but she's known by multiple generations because she's been more visible for 25+ years and more people can at least recognize who she is and name something that she's done.
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Originally posted by Aerosol
And none of it makes her iconic because nobody other than those who watched Disney Channel from 2001-2004 knows about her and none of her music or anything else has lived on beyond her little stanosphere. She has zero recurrent airplay or sales. Literally zero.
I wouldn't say Raven is necessarily iconic either, but she's known by multiple generations because she's been more visible for 25+ years and more people can at least recognize who she is and name something that she's done.
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Absolutely not true. That is you assuming once again. The ratings for the reruns of most things she's involved in don't lie. SVU is always up, the Lizzie episodes for Throwback Thursday are up, the CBTD reruns are up, etc.
There is no reason for her to have much recurrent airplay and sales because the majority of her discography was made over 7 years ago. But her sales and impact still stand.
You can keep reaching into the bowels of hell all you would like but facts are facts. The Cosby Show may be iconic, but not because of her. That's So Raven is long forgotten. And those are the ONLY things you guys can claim at this point. Sorry. 
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Originally posted by Right Now
Absolutely not true. That is you assuming once again. The ratings for the reruns of most things she's involved in don't lie. SVU is always up, the Lizzie episodes for Throwback Thursday are up, the CBTD reruns are up, etc.
There is no reason for her to have much recurrent airplay and sales because the majority of her discography was made over 7 years ago. But her sales and impact still stand.
You can keep reaching into the bowels of hell all you would like but facts are facts. The Cosby Show may be iconic, but not because of her. That's So Raven is long forgotten. And those are the ONLY things you guys can claim at this point. Sorry. |
The fumes calm down and smile
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The fumes calm down and smile
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No one is upset. I even smiled at the end of that post. Here it is again.
Hope you enjoyed your two days of attention sis.
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No one is upset. I even smiled at the end of that post. Here it is again.
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I didn't even make this thread.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Absolutely not true. That is you assuming once again. The ratings for the reruns of most things she's involved in don't lie. SVU is always up, the Lizzie episodes for Throwback Thursday are up, the CBTD reruns are up, etc.
There is no reason for her to have much recurrent airplay and sales because the majority of her discography was made over 7 years ago. But her sales and impact still stand.
You can keep reaching into the bowels of hell all you would like but facts are facts. The Cosby Show may be iconic, but not because of her. That's So Raven is long forgotten. And those are the ONLY things you guys can claim at this point. Sorry. |
Once again, you don't get it. Nobody said The Cosby Show was iconic because of her, but it is partially because of The Cosby Show that she is more recognizable and remembered than Hilary.
The age of her discography is irrelevant because there are artists who have much older songs that still get played on the radio every day and still get iTunes coins. No, her sales and impact don't still stand because what she once sold years ago means nothing to anybody, and her impact is...what?
That's So Raven is long forgotten but Lizzie McGuire isn't? Yeah okay. Again, both shows are on equal footing there, because if you didn't actually watch it, then it means nothing to you. SVU? Was she on that? Literally nobody knows but you. CBDT? Had to Google it to figure out what that acronym was. Okay, TV reruns of movies don't pull any notable ratings, and anybody who remembers that movie only knows Steve Martin starred in it. Worthless receipt.
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Originally posted by Aerosol
Once again, you don't get it. Nobody said The Cosby Show was iconic because of her, but it is partially because of The Cosby Show that she is more recognizable and remembered than Hilary.
The age of her discography is irrelevant because there are artists who have much older songs that still get played on the radio every day and still get iTunes coins. No, her sales and impact don't still stand because what she once sold years ago means nothing to anybody, and her impact is...what?
That's So Raven is long forgotten but Lizzie McGuire isn't? Yeah okay. Again, both shows are on equal footing there, because if you didn't actually watch it, then it means nothing to you. SVU? Was she on that? Literally nobody knows but you. CBDT? Had to Google it to figure out what that acronym was. Okay, TV reruns of movies don't pull any notable ratings, and anybody who remembers that movie only knows Steve Martin starred in it. Worthless receipt.
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Raven saved COSBY from being cancelled that's a fact rudy was getting old.....
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Raven by miles!
Her empire is amazing
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Originally posted by Aerosol
Once again, you don't get it. Nobody said The Cosby Show was iconic because of her, but it is partially because of The Cosby Show that she is more recognizable and remembered than Hilary.
The age of her discography is irrelevant because there are artists who have much older songs that still get played on the radio every day and still get iTunes coins. No, her sales and impact don't still stand because what she once sold years ago means nothing to anybody, and her impact is...what?
That's So Raven is long forgotten but Lizzie McGuire isn't? Yeah okay. Again, both shows are on equal footing there, because if you didn't actually watch it, then it means nothing to you. SVU? Was she on that? Literally nobody knows but you. CBDT? Had to Google it to figure out what that acronym was. Okay, TV reruns of movies don't pull any notable ratings, and anybody who remembers that movie only knows Steve Martin starred in it. Worthless receipt.
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No no no. Sorry you can deny the numbers all you want but it means nothing. Once again, just because YOU claim that things aren't as they are, doesn't mean that it's true. You are choosing to be ignorant and that's completely fine. No one who is over 40 gives a rats ass about any child actor from The Cosby Show that they may catch every so often on television (oh wait! I'm starting to sound like you). I love how you keep bringing it up as if her prescence on that show is relevant in today's world.
You also keep talking about recurrent airplay and sales in regards to Hilary. Where are Raven's though? Exactly, there are none. Almost all of Hilary's music was made before she was 20, when she wasn't even fully considered an adult so of course it's not going to receive much attention from radio in this day and age. Only a select few musicians still have music playing and sales coming in from a young age.
Sorry sis.
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Originally posted by Right Now
No no no. Sorry you can deny the numbers all you want but it means nothing. Once again, just because YOU claim that things aren't as they are, doesn't mean that it's true. You are choosing to be ignorant and that's completely fine. No one who is over 40 gives a rats ass about any child actor from The Cosby Show that they may catch every so often on television (oh wait! I'm starting to sound like you). I love how you keep bringing it up as if her prescence on that show is relevant in today's world.
You also keep talking about recurrent airplay and sales in regards to Hilary. Where are Raven's though? Exactly, there are none. Almost all of Hilary's music was made before she was 20, when she wasn't even fully considered an adult so of course it's not going to receive much attention from radio in this day and age. Only a select few musicians still have music playing and sales coming in from a young age.
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You're not even trying to refute any of my points. The fact that Raven is more known than Hilary despite Hilary have the "bigger" music career just makes Hilary look worse by comparison.
Raven is more known and recognizable than Hilary. Fact. "Sorry sis "
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Originally posted by Aerosol
You're not even trying to refute any of my points. The fact that Raven is more known than Hilary despite Hilary have the "bigger" music career just makes Hilary look worse by comparison.
Raven is more known and recognizable than Hilary. Fact. "Sorry sis " |
Not really. You refuse to address my points as they stand. Only claim that because a handful of people in your real life and two members on here say they didn't know who she was, suddenly no one knows her and she's not iconic. Please.
Neither girl may be iconic but Hilary is certainly more remembered. Oh and just to jog your memory, her box office receipts, her concert tickets and her album sales back that up.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Not really. You refuse to address my points as they stand. Only claim that because a handful of people in your real life and two members on here say they didn't know who she was, suddenly no one knows her and she's not iconic. Please.
Neither girl may be iconic but Hilary is certainly more remembered. Oh and just to jog your memory, her box office receipts, her concert tickets and her album sales back that up.
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I've already addressed all your points. In fact, I laid it all out pretty specifically for you. You seem to have a lot invested in the idea that Hilary is iconic. Meanwhile I'm just responding for the kii of proving you wrong. If you're so confident, make a poll that doesn't pit her against anyone else. Ask the girls if she's an icon. Better yet: make a poll on a site that isn't predominately populated by people with an average age of 17, and see just how much impact she's had. 
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Originally posted by Aerosol
I've already addressed all your points. In fact, I laid it all out pretty specifically for you. You seem to have a lot invested in the idea that Hilary is iconic. Meanwhile I'm just responding for the kii of proving you wrong. If you're so confident, make a poll that doesn't pit her against anyone else. Ask the girls if she's an icon. Better yet: make a poll on a site that isn't predominately populated by people with an average age of 17, and see just how much impact she's had. |
Sorry sis. You're the only one showing anger and frustration in this thread.
Once again you avoid one of the main points of it all. Looks like its time for you to live and let go. 
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Hilary and it's not even close.
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