[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by satellites.™

35 Shakira - Can't Remember To Forget You (feat. Rihanna)

[Jennifer]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

I remember the MTN streaming week.

Gaga having this "big dedicated fanbase" was always a myth.

That's not true. The opening numbers for the BTW single and album prove that there was clearly a big fanbase at one point, especially compared to Katy and Rihanna.

They could've never put out something as awful as BTW and opened with the numbers Gaga did.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by bringhimdowndown

BTWB disagrees. No stanbase can keep someone at that level without GP support/approval though. This is known.

So, looking into 2014. What's going on with the ARTRAVE?

If her fanbase was so dedicated, ARTPOP wouldn't be struggling, her fans wouldn't be flocking to Katy or Beyonce and ARTrave would be selling out everywhere. She is as dependent on the general public as the rest of them. You build a big and dedicated fanbase over time, when you actually continuously delivers. Even Gaga called her fans out for being fickle.

[slobro]

Said we got holes in our hearts
We got holes in our lives
We got holes
Wer got holes
But we carry on no

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

So, looking into 2014. What's going on with the ARTRAVE?

If her fanbase was so dedicated, ARTPOP wouldn't be struggling, her fans wouldn't be flocking to Katy or Beyonce and ARTrave would be selling out everywhere. She is as dependent on the general public as the rest of them. You build a big and dedicated fanbase over time, when you actually continuously delivers. Even Gaga called her fans out for being fickle.

As I already mentioned, her fanbase isn't dedicated right now because the material isn't great.

She's too busy going to ****ing Vegas instead of actually putting work in.

Why would I want to see a crappy show? Especially with how much it costs.

[bringhimdowndown]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

So, looking into 2014. What's going on with the ARTRAVE?

If her fanbase was so dedicated, ARTPOP wouldn't be struggling, her fans wouldn't be flocking to Katy or Beyonce and ARTrave would be selling out everywhere. She is as dependent on the general public as the rest of them. You build a big and dedicated fanbase over time, when you actually continuously delivers. Even Gaga called her fans out for being fickle.

The GP is not here. She is not engaging either. Where is the DWUW video? She has lost traction and radio has gone out on a limb for an artist who has not succeeded. The prospects are dismal, why would people want to see her now?

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by satellites.™

35 Shakira - Can't Remember To Forget You (feat. Rihanna)

[bringhimdowndown]

Plus lots of her fans got tired of being spoken to like children. Am a grown woman, I don't need another, crazier mother, thanks.

[OurLuckyStrike]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

I remember the MTN streaming week.

Gaga having this "big dedicated fanbase" was always a myth.

Worst part is that she does all that **** for them (born brave bus, littlemonsterscom, etc) that eventually led to her decline lol.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by Cupid

Is ArtRave selling well? A friend of mine tweeted about not being able to get UK tickets, until she extended it.

It's doing okay. Not the dramatic flop that people are making it out to be, but also not sold out everywhere or anything like that.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Jennifer

That's not true. The opening numbers for the BTW single and album prove that there was clearly a big fanbase at one point, especially compared to Katy and Rihanna.

They could've never put out something as awful as BTW and opened with the numbers Gaga did.

Oh please. That was leftover success and goodwill from The Fame (Monster) and hype accumulated over months after the VMAs. That has nothing to with a 'dedicated base.'

Dedicated base is what Sade has, something artists have to gain and hold over years.

[satellites.™]

What would you prefer?

A. An artist who consistently releases great pop songs that you love but never changes their sound.

B. An artist who takes risks and it works for them sometimes and others time not so much.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

So, looking into 2014. What's going on with the ARTRAVE?

If her fanbase was so dedicated, ARTPOP wouldn't be struggling, her fans wouldn't be flocking to Katy or Beyonce and ARTrave would be selling out everywhere. She is as dependent on the general public as the rest of them. You build a big and dedicated fanbase over time, when you actually continuously delivers. Even Gaga called her fans out for being fickle.

Her biggest damn problem is that the young fanbase she built at first is growing and maturing, while she refuses to grow with them. I'm 17, not 12 - I'm more than old enough to have stopped buying into the faux-philosophical hippie ********, Gags, and I don't need to be told to be nice on your website.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by satellites.™

What would you prefer?

A. An artist who consistently releases great pop songs that you love but never changes their sound.

B. An artist who takes risks and it works for them sometimes and others time not so much.

B.

Always B.

Artists like A become such a bore.

B is why Beyoncé is succeeding on such a massive level right now.

[Nippy'sReceipts]

I always thought she had to have a big following b/c she sold 7m copies with a primarily young demographic. Gaga was never a cross-generational phenom on a large scale.

[bringhimdowndown]

If ARTRAVE beats out CDT I will laugh. Katy is too easy to digest and too omnipresent to not be able to tour better than Gaga.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Cupid

Is ArtRave selling well? A friend of mine tweeted about not being able to get UK tickets, until she extended it.

It's doing better than people like to claim, so far, but it's got smaller venues than her last tour and won't gross as much.

[Gui Blackout]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

It's doing okay. Not the dramatic flop that people are making it out to be, but also not sold out everywhere or anything like that.

How many sold out dates monstah

[Cristhian]

Originally posted by satellites.™

What would you prefer?

A. An artist who consistently releases great pop songs that you love but never changes their sound.

B. An artist who takes risks and it works for them sometimes and others time not so much.

Not katy.

[Chemical X.]

Nelly Furtado ha impact on my musical taste