[Lucas32]

Originally posted by T-Swizz

So being the first mainstream artist to release a visual album is not important at all?

What do videos and a surprise release have to do with music itself?
The release campaign might become more common but musically it probably won't inpact music that much if any
4 is not a classic and not iconic but it is my fave by her and a good album

[DanielMnstr]

4 really did grow on me. Initially i was really disappointed with it but over time it became one of my favourites. Especially watching the live performances, it really made me love the songs on there. I agree it's a pretty damn good album that most people ignore and toss away, kinda sad

[Johnny Cash]

Originally posted by T-Swizz

So being the first mainstream artist to release a visual album is not important at all?

It is important but for her and us as her fanbase, I don't think she made something that unique or clever considering she's always making a lot of videos for all of her albums.

[LyonH]

Originally posted by keyboardhero35

i'm sorry but some of you people on this forum wouldn't no good music if it bit you in the penis. honestly, i've been on this forum for only a few days and it astounds me how if something doesn't sell as good as it should it's considered a flop. WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC? no one ever talks about the quality of the music. 4 is an excellent, excellent R&B/Pop record, and i think it's amazing that people would dare to call something like that or even ARTPOP a flop. Why should we care what the general public decides to buy?


and for the people who don't like 4 I dare you to listen to Love on Top, Rather Die Young, End of TIme, and Countdown and tell me they're not bops.

I love u

[nabee]

Originally posted by Mr.Link

It's not iconic but it's quite enjoyable, I can listen to it anytime, anyday.
...Until I reach Run the World.

i quite cringe with RTW when i listen to the whole album, tho after being slayed by her RTW performances, it kinda redeemed itself and made me love it

[DevonDreams]

Not iconic.

[Penny.]

4 is a masterpiece
it was by far my favorite beyonce album till BEYONCE came out

I Care is still & will always be one of my very favorite songs

[Kweenara]

It's good, but honestly ALL of Beys albums are flawless overall. They may have a bad song or two here and there, but overall her albums are untouchable.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

It's a great album. Iconic is far overused on this forum. What's annoying is the Bey stans who started shading 4 when BEYONCE started outselling it. True colors started to show. The album in qualoty, vocals, videos, and performances are brilliants. Yeah, the era left a lot to be desired, but often times one's best work gets the short end of the stick. 4, as of right now, is her second best.

[SebaMonster]

I used to think it was a masterpiece, but BEYONCÉ makes 4 look like a collection of random Bey songs...

[SupahBass05]

I still like '4' more than 'BEYONCE'

[Outlaws]

FINALLY SOMEONE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND ME.

"4" is a fu**ing masterpiece. I don't know if the whole album is iconic, I think a couple songs are (Girls & love on top) but it's one of my favorite albums ever since I watched "Beyoncé: '4' live at Roseland", I just fell in love so hard with that album.

[Johnny Cash]

#JusticeFor4

[pieuxvu]

BEYONCE > B'Day > 4
I wish RTW and BTINH are bonus tracks and Schoolin' Life is on the album.

[nabee]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

I used to think it was a masterpiece, but 4 makes BEYONCÉ look like a collection of random Bey songs...

more like dis.

i love them both, but 4 is a strong cohesive album, and it always felt so intimate listening to it

BEYONCÉ speaks to me on a different level tho, much like an IASF part 2 but with stronger points

[Ice Cream Skies]

Originally posted by Kweenara

It's good, but honestly ALL of Beys albums are flawless overall. They may have a bad song or two here and there, but overall her albums are untouchable.

Dangerously In Love & I Am... Sasha Fierce disprove that thought.

[BeamMeUp]

1+1 will be iconic. That's about it.

[prollyallmyfault]

Originally posted by DanielMnstr

4 really did grow on me. Initially i was really disappointed with it but over time it became one of my favourites. Especially watching the live performances, it really made me love the songs on there. I agree it's a pretty damn good album that most people ignore and toss away, kinda sad(

The entire point of this thread.

[Aurora]

Originally posted by Toysoldier99

It's not iconic. ATRL needs to stop using that word so loosely.

This.

[Toysoldier99]

Originally posted by BeamMeUp

1+1 will be iconic. That's about it.

How?