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Poll: Who will be more remembered? Janet vs Britney?
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View Poll Results: More remembered?
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Janet
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Originally posted by dinorel
Well even Madonna sampled "Gimme more" 
Here in Latin America Janet is dead, even artists like Cyndi Lauper gets more plays on radio than Janet here.
You keep repeating no one cares for Britney nowadays, no shade but its the same for Janet outside of her fans who cares for her since 2001?
Britney's been downchill since "In the zone" so is Janet since "Janet"
Janet is still very talented and very respected but the question here is who will be more remembered and the one that had more impact and dominance outside the US is the answer = Britney  |
Let's just correct your train of thought. I'm coming from the fact that Janet was never a major force here. She's not dead here because she was never too big. Of course Cyndi Lauper is getting more airplay - she had albums out and she had a major hit with three songs in the 80's. That's not hard to imagine.
Madonna's sample of Gimme More is unknown for me and for anyone else. Kendrick's sample is in a Grammy nominated Album of The Year and on the radio stations. Just to measure the legacy. Not to mention the revival of Poetic Justice and the fact that a LOT of people wanted to wear the braids like she did in the movie, 20 years ago. Even Beyoncé did it on one of her videos. Will people in 20 years try to emulate Britney? Not sure.
Yes, since 2001, more than 19 years after her debut in the musical scene, random people still respect her and post about her old hits and how they found her old albums and bought them (Instagram is the receipt). I'll be glad to look at Britney's image in 2017.
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No one from the new generation knows who is Janet...The same is happening with Madge.
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The delusions in this thread. Without Janet, there would be no Britney.
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Originally posted by Alexz
Just let it go.
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I.E. - " my reasoning fell short."
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Originally posted by dinorel
You're from US right? 
Here in Latin America Janet Jackson is literally non-existent for example. |
I live in Tanzania. I'm a few hundred feet from Lake Victoria.
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Originally posted by InsureTer
The delusions in this thread. Without Janet, there would be no Britney.
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And Britney will be more remembered than Janet.
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
Let's just correct your train of thought. I'm coming from the fact that Janet was never a major force here. She's not dead here because she was never too big. Of course Cyndi Lauper is getting more airplay - she had albums out and she had a major hit with three songs in the 80's. That's not hard to imagine.
Madonna's sample of Gimme More is unknown for me and for anyone else. Kendrick's sample is in a Grammy nominated Album of The Year and on the radio stations. Just to measure the legacy. Not to mention the revival of Poetic Justice and the fact that a LOT of people wanted to wear the braids like she did in the movie, 20 years ago. Even Beyoncé did it on one of her videos. Will people in 20 years try to emulate Britney? Not sure.
Yes, since 2001, more than 19 years after her debut in the musical scene, random people still respect her and post about her old hits and how they found her old albums and bought them (Instagram is the receipt). I'll be glad to look at Britney's image in 2017.
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Madonna was just one example many artists have covered Britney 's songs mostly on concerts tho ....
And Britney's legacy is not as weak as you're trying to portrait, maybe Janet's legacy was the one that wasn't as strong as we thought? , for example Britney had a lesbic kiss on stage, flashed her p*ssy several times and pulicly shaved her head and despite that she was still able to get 4 #1 hits right after that (Womanizer, 3 , Hold it against me and S&M remix) not to mention a bunch of top 3 hits.
Janet on the other just flashed half a nipple and her career was inmediately destroyed and killed to the point of not even touching the top 10 again since then.
Thats pretty significative if you'd ask me because it shows the tolerance of public and the strength the act after difficult or controversial situations if Janet had a solid legacy she would've survided that stupid incident
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Originally posted by dinorel
Madonna was just one example many artists have covered Britney 's songs mostly on concerts tho ....
And Britney's legacy is not as weak as you're trying to portrait, maybe Janet's legacy was the one that wasn't as strong as we thought? , for example Britney had a lesbic kiss on stage, flashed her p*ssy several times and pulicly shaved her head and despite that she was still able to get 4 #1 hits right after that (Womanizer, 3 , Hold it against me and S&M remix) not to mention a bunch of top 3 hits.
Janet on the other just flashed half a nipple and her career was inmediately destroyed and killed to the point of not even touching the top 10 again since then.
Thats pretty significative if you'd ask me because it shows the tolerance of public and the strength the act after difficult or controversial situations |
The problem is not the tolerance of the public. People showed Janet love even back then. She was not on the radio so of course she wouldn't have massive hits or massive albums, she was always a radio force. The blacklist does not have to see with GP perception of her, and the GP perception doesn't have to do with the difficulty to stay relevant to newer generations without being played on TV or radio.
Britney's white and her stunts did not happen during the Superbowl, which elicited thousands of complaints, legal trouble, etc. Can you picture what would happen if she was blacklisted from now on? Would she maintain her legacy?
You're just embarrasing yourself. At Britney's age, Janet was doing much more than those one-week #1's and a rushed Rihanna remix. The fact that you're already resorting to the Superbowl and can't name any relevant artist that covers Britney in their concert means this argument will go nowhere else.
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Janet was automatically erased when she showed her breast in failed attempt to create contoversy.
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
The problem is not the tolerance of the public. People showed Janet love even back then. She was not on the radio so of course she wouldn't have massive hits or massive albums, she was always a radio force. The blacklist does not have to see with GP perception of her, and the GP perception doesn't have to do with the difficulty to stay relevant to newer generations without being played on TV or radio.
Britney's white and her stunts did not happen during the Superbowl, which elicited thousands of complaints, legal trouble, etc. Can you picture what would happen if she was blacklisted from now on? Would she maintain her legacy?
You're just embarrasing yourself. At Britney's age, Janet was doing much more than those one-week #1's and a rushed Rihanna remix. The fact that you're already resorting to the Superbowl and can't name any relevant artist that covers Britney in their concert means this argument will go nowhere else.
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From Madonna, to Kelly Clarkson, to Taylor Swift, to Alternative acts like Tori Amos and Travis (among others) have covered Britney's songs on concerts, 2 tributes on Glee already.
And Britney also had strong backlash (more than Janet will ever receive) in 2007 , she was also blacklisted from radios from 2001 to 2004 and still overcome those situations.
Britney maybe is still young but don't get fooled by her age she will turn 16 years of career this year, and even 20 years in entertainment if we count her Mickey Mouse club job, so she has had good longevity as well. Where she outdid Janet worldwide.
And once again Britney's legacy is not as weak as you try to portrait , Janet has inspired an entire generation of pop / R&B artists , but could you say she has inspired alternative / indie rock artists or country singers?
New divas of complete opposite genres have cited Britney as influence , from Country star Taylor Swift , to Rap artist Nicki Minaj , to Alternative indie star Lana del Rey, to Alternative rock artist Lily Allen to pop star Lady Gaga (among others). Solidifying her universal appeal of the current divas despite the music genres bareers.
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Lily Allen coveed Womanizer on her last album. The name Britney Spears is included in more than 100 songs.
Britney is a cultural icon and will be remembered more than Janet.
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Originally posted by Alexz
Lily Allen coveed Womanizer on her last album. The name Britney Spears is included in more than 100 songs.
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I know , I just try to name the most relevant ones since the list is too long
Britney has even been covered outside of the pop world by alternative and rock bands such as Franz Ferdinand, All American Rejects, Lily Allen, Travis, Tori Amos, among others.
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Originally posted by dinorel
From Madonna, to Kelly Clarkson, to Taylor Swift, to Alternative acts like Tori Amos and Travis (among others) have covered Britney's songs on concerts, 2 tributes on Glee already.
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Kelly Clarkson also covered Janet. Panic! At The Disco made a single with a Janet reference as the main theme, every week there is a new dance remix of Janet blowing up (the Kaytranada remix of If for example. a 20 year old song. 20 years ago Britney wasn't even a singer yet). Janet had a MTV Icon concert at around Britney's age where the top people went there to pay tribute... Alternative acts like "How To Dress Well", "Moon Boots", "MNEK" also covered Janet.
Mmmmm.... Janet is not restricted to Pop and R&B
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Originally posted by dinorel
And Britney also had strong backlash (more than Janet will ever receive) in 2007 , she was also blacklisted from radios from 2001 to 2004 and still overcome those situations.
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Don't try to portrait Britney's controversies as anything close to Janet's blacklist. It's unfair.
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Originally posted by dinorel
And once again Britney's legacy is not as weak as you try to portrait , Janet has inspired an entore generation of pop / R&B artists , but could you say she has inspired alternative / indie rock artists or country singers? |
Yes. http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...y-track-review
However Taylor Swift has nothing to do with Britney.
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Originally posted by dinorel
New divas of complete opposite genres have cited Britney as influence , from Country star Taylor Swift , to Rap artist Nicki Minaj , to Alternative indie star Lana del Rey, to Alternative rock artist Lily Allen to pop star Lady Gaga (among others). Solidifying her universal appeal of the current divas despite the music genres bareers. |
 What exactly has Britney taught them?
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
What exactly has Britney taught them? |
Ask them , but all of them have praised her and listed her as influence, probably because they grew up listening Britney , Gaga for example told at VMA's 2011 during her speech that when she was a struggling artist in bars Britney was one of her biggest inspirations and that she taught her to be fierce.
BTW, I also want to clear to those that say Britney's old hits sound dated, that Janet's sound dated as well, all of her stuff sound like a 90s R&B / new jack swing sh*t. . . . . She won't ever have an ageless sounding avant-garde song like "Toxic" or an album that still sounds fresh and new after many years like "In the zone" .... All of her stuff is old R&B stuff.
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My God... the ignorance in this forum. Honestly, the janet fans have already provided ample receipts as to why Janet will clearly be more remembered so there's no need for me to even pull out mines. I have to remind myself that most Britney fans are just young and delusional. I mean the fact that they would even stan for someone so void of talent to makes them delusional to begin with. They're also severely ignorant to musical history and its roots. This thread is to comical to even adequately analyze so I'll just sit back and watch.
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The one who used concepts from numerous great black artists in their work.
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
The problem is not the tolerance of the public. People showed Janet love even back then. She was not on the radio so of course she wouldn't have massive hits or massive albums, she was always a radio force. The blacklist does not have to see with GP perception of her, and the GP perception doesn't have to do with the difficulty to stay relevant to newer generations without being played on TV or radio.
Britney's white and her stunts did not happen during the Superbowl, which elicited thousands of complaints, legal trouble, etc. Can you picture what would happen if she was blacklisted from now on? Would she maintain her legacy?
You're just embarrasing yourself. At Britney's age, Janet was doing much more than those one-week #1's and a rushed Rihanna remix. The fact that you're already resorting to the Superbowl and can't name any relevant artist that covers Britney in their concert means this argument will go nowhere else.
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Slay her down. And the only reason Britney even got those number 1's were out of pity. Radio finally gave her chance after she went crazy. If she didn't go crazy, no one would be here for her. Her pity sales are already wearing off. Just look at Britney Jean and Work Bitch 
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Originally posted by dinorel
Ask them , but all of them have praised her and listed her as influence, probably because they grew up listening Britney , Gaga for example told at VMA's 2011 during her speech that when she was a struggling artist in bars Britney was one of her biggest inspirations and that she taught her to be fierce.
BTW, I also want to clear to those that say Britney's old hits sound dated, that Janet's sound dated as well, all of her stuff sound like a 90s R&B / new jack swing sh*t. . . . . She won't ever have an ageless sounding avant-garde song like "Toxic" or an album that still sounds fresh and new after many years like "In the zone" .... All of her stuff is old R&B stuff.
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That's The Way Love Goes by Janet actually sounds very fresh, and it's over 20 years old. Even blackout sounds dated and it's not even 10 years old. Have a seat. Fated sounds don't mean you won't have a legacy. Thriller sounds 80's as ever, but it still slays.
The fact that Janet is even being argued about in this thread well over 30 years into her music career already puts her at odds to be remembered in 20 more years when she hits 50 years.
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LMAO! This Thread is hilarious.
Janet is 32 Years into her music career, she's the template for Britney.
Just because some of you may not know her music or her legacy, it doesn't mean she didn't have an impact.
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