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Discussion: Is Xtina as Iconic as Bey and Brit?
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Christina is just as iconic, I don't know why so many here try to diminish her legacy, if flops were the basis of removing icon status then many of those considered icons wouldn't be considered such today.
Need I remind the Britney stans comming for legend x that Britney Jean was the biggest flop of all the pop girl releases this year, selling less than Bionic & Lotus internationally.
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Xtina can flop for the rest of her life and she will still remain ICONIC for one reason: her voice.  She is the most respected singer of this generation by the legends like Whitney, Aretha, Celine, Etta etc. Xtina still has her natural youthful looks, voice and knows how to throw a performance, once she is hungry enough for success she will slay no doubt about it.
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No
Britney and Beyonce are legends
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Originally posted by Bunifah
Christina needs to stop trying to appeal to that pop market.
If SAY SOMETHING taught us something is that people want to hear her sing from the heart. She needs to follow in the footsteps of some of the R&B ladies like FANTASIA and TAMAR and deliver that soulful record about relationships and daily-basis struggles that EVERYONE CAN RELATE
Christina tends to be very self-centered with her music in such a length that many times nobody can relate to what she is singing because it's just too personal 'FOR HER' not for everyone else (like Lady Gaga's ARTPOP for example)
I mean, she was singing about supersonic rocket bionics not so long ago and on Lotus, there were too many 'SHUT UP HATERS' tunes.
Go back to the hearts, Christina, that's what we are here for. Make a connection with us
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I agree with you. While I appreciate that Christina experiments, that is what she does best. Making a connection and moving people.
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Originally posted by Ivory.
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Britney and Beyonce are legends
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Lol no.
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Originally posted by BabyJane
Christina is just as iconic, I don't know why so many here try to diminish her legacy, if flops were the basis of removing icon status then many of those considered icons wouldn't be considered such today.
Need I remind the Britney stans comming for legend x that Britney Jean was the biggest flop of all the pop girl releases this year, selling less than Bionic & Lotus internationally.
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It hasn't sold less than lotus  and even if it did, it's only been out for 1 month. PLUS, this is a discussion about how iconic their career are. If you wanna talk about recents success, how about we talk about the last time Christina had a moderate hit single as a solo artist.
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Originally posted by toxicgenie
Xtina can flop for the rest of her life and she will still remain ICONIC for one reason: her voice. She is the most respected singer of this generation by the legends like Whitney, Aretha, Celine, Etta etc. Xtina still has her natural youthful looks, voice and knows how to throw a performance, once she is hungry enough for success she will slay no doubt about it. |
Yas! spread the true tea on these non-believers 
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Originally posted by BPD
All of which Christina has.
*Her assess chaps/tan/ all of her raunchiness.
*Her 2007 Grammy Award performance.
*Beautiful video made a TON of impact.... then theres Genie AND Lady Marmalade.
* Back to Basics tour was more successful than the I Am tour.
*Memorable hits?? Genie, Beautiful, Lady Marmalade, What A girl wants, MLJ... take a pick!
So no... your comment is invalid
Edit. And let's not act like Britney and Beyonce have many more memorable hits and videos than Christina when Britney only has BOMT, OIDIA, and Toxic as memorable hits and as for her videos only Toxic and BOMT made an impact.
Then there's Beyonce.. let's be real. Her discography and videography is much weaker than her peers . With only SL and maaaybe CIL making impacts. So please stop acting like Christina is beneath them, when she's sitting pretty right next to these 2. :biblioç
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The absolute LaReach  When you make the criteria for Christina's "hits" so loose as to include WAGW (a bop, but not iconic), and MLJ which I don't even know what that is
If your standards are that low, Baby Boy and Crazy in Love both went #1 in 2003 for 8 weeks each. Irreplaceable went #1 for 10 weeks. Those three hits alone already smash all five of Christina's #1s, not even mentioning SL/CoI. If we're going on iconic songs/impact, Beyonce has Crazy in Love, Irreplaceable (to the left) and Single Ladies (put a ring on it). Xtina has Beautiful and Lady Marmalade, maybe Genie in a Bottle being generous. And if we're being that generous we either have to include Destiny's Child (SURVIVOR), or concede that Beyonce did all this giving Christina a 4 year head start 
To the rest of your post, Christina has all that stuff. She IS iconic, if anyone says otherwise they're lying. But objectively, for a non-fan's perspective, as iconic as Beyonce or Britney? No. #3 of her era, sure. But not = to #1 or 2.
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Originally posted by Ivory.
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Britney and Beyonce are legends
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That's subjective.
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Originally posted by Xtina Culture
That's subjective.
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This entire thread is subjective
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Of course she is, love her or hate her everyone knows who she is. Especially in my country her spanish songs are classics here.
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Originally posted by AVIB
The fact that Beyoncé can sell an album and world tour with limited promo speaks volumes. Christina is on tv 2 or more days a week and she could never. If you can sell things based on only your name you're truly an icon. Ex: Madonna.
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Sorry, but the "Beyonce no promo" is the biggest lie of 2013. Buying all the promo-banners on iTunes is the biggest promo any artist could dream of today. Not to mention all the commercials that aired during primetime tv. She didn't have hype but she did have promo. The surprise release and iTunes takeover did create hype. No shade, Beyonce and her team were on point and deserve all the success for what they did.
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Originally posted by LilyAllen
It hasn't sold less than lotus and even if it did, it's only been out for 1 month. PLUS, this is a discussion about how iconic their career are. If you wanna talk about recents success, how about we talk about the last time Christina had a moderate hit single as a solo artist. |
It sold less than it internationally and debut lower than lotus especially in the European territories.
As if it matters all Britards bragged about all year is the success of scream and shout to which she is a feature, didn't work bitch, perfume and BJ not flop though shouldn't that be brought into consideration given that is the same thing used to discredit Christina Aguilera since they cannot deny her talent and accolades.
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Originally posted by Bunifah
I'm not here to get into a stan discussion with a Beyoncé BeyHive member. Our opinions won't change regardless of the endless posts switched.
I just think Beyoncé's moves are too well calculated towards the direction of 'make me a legend'. It just doesn't seem real, natural, from the heart IMO like it did for Whitney for example. It's not something that the stars aligned and happened for her due to her natural gift and talent, it is something SHE is moving hills and planets to make it happen for her.
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What Are you even old enough to remember what it was like when Whitney was becoming a legend (91-94ish)? And no, not having been born or in diapers that time, but able to discuss her impact? If so I'll gladly stand correct, but if not
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Originally posted by mane
Of course she is, love her or hate her everyone knows who she is. Especially in my country her spanish songs are classics here.
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Originally posted by toxicgenie
Xtina can flop for the rest of her life and she will still remain ICONIC for one reason: her voice. She is the most respected singer of this generation by the legends like Whitney, Aretha, Celine, Etta etc. Xtina still has her natural youthful looks, voice and knows how to throw a performance, once she is hungry enough for success she will slay no doubt about it. |
Educate them.
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Originally posted by BabyJane
It sold less than it internationally and debut lower than lotus especially in the European territories.
As if it matters all Britards bragged about all year is the success of scream and shout to which she is a feature, didn't work bitch, perfume and BJ not flop though shouldn't that be brought into consideration given that is the same thing used to discredit Christina Aguilera since they cannot deny her talent and accolades.
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Work bitch went top 15 classifying it as a moderate hit, xtina hasn't even had one since what, 2008?
In January 2013, Lotus had sold around 215,000 copies
As of now, Britney Jean has sold over 400,000 copies
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Member Since: 8/4/2009
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Originally posted by BabyJane
It sold less than it internationally and debut lower than lotus especially in the European territories.
As if it matters all Britards bragged about all year is the success of scream and shout to which she is a feature, didn't work bitch, perfume and BJ not flop though shouldn't that be brought into consideration given that is the same thing used to discredit Christina Aguilera since they cannot deny her talent and accolades.
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Ooooop at the clock... get them together
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 so many bothered members of the army
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Originally posted by mane
so many bothered members of the army |
Their fave flopped just as bad if not worse than Bionic & Lotus, they have no leg to stand on now since sales are all they could ever use.
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