[Hivy]

But how can someone on ATRL speak for the entire GP and can tell what the GP will remember and what they will not.

[Solaris]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

can the Hive actually tell me what Bey's supposed iconic moments are?

Let me perch.

[atrlster]

Originally posted by Latch

Are you seriously implying that these manufactured scandals are the only thing that keep her relevant?



Do you live on planet earth?

Beyonce is not on the level of some vapid, drug addicted Lindsay Lohan/Paris Hilton tabloid scandal star

I could ask you the same question I hope you're not going to give stannish answers and be like the DANCE FOR YOU VIDEO! THE 2011 BILLBOARD PERFORMANCE! LOVE ON TOP!

[Latch]

Originally posted by dnav87

I love beyonce but I don't see her as iconic. She's like a Mariah Carey. I super successful artist with worldwide acclaim but she lacks the controversy to actually become an icon like let's say madonna Britney or lady gaga

Clearly you don't know what it means to be an icon,
but if you think controversy is what makes someone/thing iconic then you REALLY don't know

[Hivy]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

can the Hive actually tell me what Bey's supposed iconic moments are?

Ask Britney babe since Brit brit looks up to Bey.

[thirdward]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

the only iconic thing about Xtina is when the camera zoomed to Justin while she was kissing Madonna during the 2003 VMA's

where's the lie?

[Stan]

Lets say she WAS as iconic as the other two once

[atrlster]

Originally posted by MMMinaj

It will be remembered years from now the same way BOMT's opening sales were remembered. MAJOR openings like those don't just get forgotten

The GP doesn't remember BOMT's sales. If you asked the average person, they won't know or care. The song and the video are iconic though. Those are things they will remember not album sales or other stats that stans like to throw around.

[.KUNTana]

Originally posted by Hivy

But how can someone on ATRL speak for the entire GP and can tell what the GP will remember and what they will not.

bay-sick-lee THIS!

[Concrete]

Originally posted by Truth Teller

Yes, she is. She's on the same level.

If she wasn't iconic or if she wasn't a big deal as some of you claim she wouldn't have survived 2 flop albums like she did. Most artists are out of the business soon as they underperform, let alone flop. But she's still here, relevant as ever, with a #1 tv show and a Top 5 hit duet whose renewed popularity can only be attributed to her.

By the way, for all those saying that her impact ended after 'Stripped' and that Beyonce is on a whole another level, I'll leave this here



Let me quote it just in case

The Voice is not the #1 TV. Her return to the voice actually resulted in the show receiving all time low ratings this season and big drop in ratings from season 4. Would you like me to provide details and links?

[Truth Teller]

Originally posted by Hivy

Ask Britney babe since Brit brit looks up to Bey.

The same way Bey looked up to X when she called her a trendsetter

[crazywildpop]

I love her, but no, she's not.

[musicfan09]

She was more iconic than both in the Stripped era, but know she's really as iconic as Brit, while Beyonce is probably the biggest artist out there right now.

[Alexis Neiers]

Originally posted by LyonH

Well sis get your facts right.. Beyonce has been making iconic videos since the birth of destinys child ... But u are cute tho ... Don't try to reach that high u might hurt yourself

[BPD]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

can the Hive actually tell me what Bey's supposed iconic moments are?

I'd really like to know this as well

[LyonH]

Originally posted by MCBeth

Were you in a slumber the past year? The Mrs. Carter World Tour & the I Am... World Tour are PROOF enough that she isn't as "local" as people claim her to be. Plus her most recent album, which charted at #1 in over 106+ countries on iTunes for several days, is enjoying tremendous success world wide without any conventional promo. If that doesn't speak for her globalness, then I don't know what will.

By the way, Brazil is one of Beyonce's biggest markets so I don't even know what you're trying to say. :laughs:

OP: I would say no. She has her iconic moments such as Beautiful, Lady Marmalade, Genie In a Bottle, and the Stripped era in general but she is nowhere near as iconic as Britney or Beyonce. As much as people like to discredit Britney these days, there is no denying that she is the face of the bubblegum teen era of the late 90s/early 00s and that is something that won't be erased. This is not to discredit Christina though.

Many just got schooled by u sis ... Preach on

[MMMinaj]

Originally posted by atrlster

The GP doesn't remember BOMT's sales. If you asked the average person, they won't know or care. The song and the video are iconic though. Those are things they will remember not album sales or other stats that stans like to throw around.

Ask any person who was at a coherent age during the time BOMT, and they can tell you it was one of the biggest releases they ever experienced. They won't tell you the exact number obviously, but majority of people know of it's massive success

[Truth Teller]

Originally posted by Concrete

The Voice is not the #1 TV. Her return to the voice actually resulted in the show receiving all time low ratings this season and big drop in ratings from season 4. Would you like me to provide details and links?

Yes, I would like that.

I already have the receipts myself, but be my guest. I would like a detailed comparison with season 4 ratings and then I can provide an equally detailed with season 3 ratings

[Bey_Rihstan]

Originally posted by Alexis Neiers

can the Hive actually tell me what Bey's supposed iconic moments are?

Not you acting brand new. Her haircut from last year ALONE Has managed to be more iconic than anything britney has done since 2008.

[atrlster]

Originally posted by bey0nce

Who claimed it was iconic? not me. You tried to claim the GP didn't know about it and only music followers did, which was completely false.

I don't remember who did, but this is a thread justifying their "iconicness" and that was mentioned. And I thought I was pretty clear about what I said. Even if it was reported, not everyone is going to hear it or understand/grasp it even if they do.

What do you think the public gets more, the Single Ladies video or this unorthodox album release?