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Fan Base: Archived: Lady Gaga (#2)
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Originally posted by Retro
I agree with you in every way but especially on this! And what's hurting her this era too? The same things!
She'll come around though, if she wants to. And if not, oh well, she's still damn awesome no matter what she sells.  |
It was good in theory. She was using her fame and influence to show that it did not matter what you looked like or acted - which fit the theme of Born This Way well. Only problem was that she took it too far and occasionally looked like the bride of Satan.
She's been good this era. Only this look has truly been terrifying.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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I was more touched by TFM than BTW :/
I didn't really need the music to support myself, but I am glad Gaga released such an album. Some fans needed it. But I am more than a gay guy and I'd like for Gaga to see her fans as more than just gay, or 'freaks.'
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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BTW era could've went like this:
1. Marry the Night
2. Born This Way
3. The Edge of Glory
4. Hair
5. Heavy Metal Lover
6. You and I
and a video for Scheisse. Hire me Gags.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Cupid
TFM is just perfection. Everything about that era was an event. The video releases for example, I remember being perched at my computer with my friend, waiting for the Telephone video, everybody on Facebook was talking about it, it was like a worldwide event. I haven't really experienced anything like that in the music world for a long time, it just doesn't really happen anymore.
I remember going away for winter for like a month and falling in love with this guy, we would put TFM on repeat and drink all night, singing along to the album until like 8am. Then I never saw him again, it just brings back such good memories  |
TFM was my first experience with pop culture after lifting up my rock and finding the entertainment world out there, and it hooked me so fast! I became a stan like right after "Telephone" had dropped.
There was a period in my life in summer 2010 when I was literally into her discography enough and so obsessed that I spoke only in her lyrics and it took people two whole weeks to catch on. 
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All of this nostalgia, luv it
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Originally posted by ALA
BTW era could've went like this:
1. Marry the Night
2. Born This Way
3. The Edge of Glory
4. Hair
5. Heavy Metal Lover
6. You and I
and a video for Scheisse. Hire me Gags.
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I still think The Edge of Glory should have ended the era though. Hair really could have smashed.. not sure what she did there. I suppose it did its job as promo single. 
And you better stan for Fernando. I LOVE his work!
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Originally posted by Cupid
TFM is just perfection. Everything about that era was an event. The video releases for example, I remember being perched at my computer with my friend, waiting for the Telephone video, everybody on Facebook was talking about it, it was like a worldwide event. I haven't really experienced anything like that in the music world for a long time, it just doesn't really happen anymore.
I remember going away for winter for like a month and falling in love with this guy, we would put TFM on repeat and drink all night, singing along to the album until like 8am. Then I never saw him again, it just brings back such good memories |
!!! Yaaaas! All of this about the Telephone music video is so accurate. And I had my little group of friends who were Little Monsters from various online games that I played and we all fake sicked to stay home to see the Telephone video premiere on E!
Oh and even before that the Bad Romance video release was the same day that my dad grounded me for refusing to give this bitch teacher my phone because I was texting in class  So he had to come to school and pick the phone up after school was over and when we got back home he took my computer away in his truck back to work with him. And this was before I had a smartphone, so I went to the shed outside and grabbed this computer with like windows 98 still on it And I plugged it up to the monitor, he didn't take that
And it took about a good hour for me to get it up and loaded and everything. But I remember doing the choreography after watching it 2 or 3 times 
Oh man the memories.
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I think Hair would've been really successful too. I know people don't like it 'cause of the lyrics but it sounds like an anthem.
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
I was more touched by TFM than BTW :/
I didn't really need the music to support myself, but I am glad Gaga released such an album. Some fans needed it. But I am more than a gay guy and I'd like for Gaga to see her fans as more than just gay, or 'freaks.'
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I hear this viewpoint a lot and I think it's really interesting, honestly.
I think she does see us as more than just a marginalized community and knows that many of her fans don't really need the preaching, but I think she decided that it was more important to her personally to cater to and support the fans who needed help first. It's true that she may have gone so far as to almost ignore other fans, I guess.
It's just kinda interesting, you know?
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Originally posted by Cupid
I enjoy BTW as an album but I really didn't enjoy it as an era if that makes any sense. I think all the bad handling etc just really put me off.
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I think this is how most of the fans on here feel about ARTPOP. I remain hopeful that things will pick up but if Applause is the only video we're getting this era things will get ugly.
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Originally posted by Cupid
TFM is just perfection. Everything about that era was an event. The video releases for example, I remember being perched at my computer with my friend, waiting for the Telephone video, everybody on Facebook was talking about it, it was like a worldwide event. I haven't really experienced anything like that in the music world for a long time, it just doesn't really happen anymore.
I remember going away for winter for like a month and falling in love with this guy, we would put TFM on repeat and drink all night, singing along to the album until like 8am. Then I never saw him again, it just brings back such good memories |
I was running some late errands when the video premiered and I received a text from a friend. I literally had one of the workers at the store I was at turn the channel so I could stand there and watch the video.
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Cupid
Wait at that last part though Not speaking in her lyrics! |
I was a MESS in the TFM and BTW eras sis, a capital-M MESS. 
Remember the first "O" Music Awards that had the "biggest superfan" or whatever category? i was on top of that for weeks - I was the literal most obsessive fan on the face of the planet at one point. I don't think many other people on ATRL can claim that!
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I remember when the Telephone video came out, my brothers and I were watching it together. Nothing too extravagant like some of y'all
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Originally posted by Retro
I understand. The speeches about us being "god damn superstars" came right around when I was accepting myself and my sexuality; the song came on my fifteenth birthday the same school year I came out to my friends and, though I had their support all the way, needed a voice there to fight for me and convince me it wasn't a problem that I wasn't the perfect "normal" person and could be myself.
I almost miss her unending preachiness because that's who she'd become to me by the end of the era - the one superstar on earth who would fight for anyone who needed it at the cost of her public image, her credibility as an artist in the minds of some, and her sales. She still supports and fights for us, but the spirit of the BTW era was freedom-fighting bandana wearing rock star turned disco queen and I kind of loved it, you know?
"Bad Kids", even though I've been a well-behaved child (  ), is pretty much the best thing ever to me. It's no HML with it's production, it's no "Bad Romance", it's no "Gypsy" - but it's so defiantly proud, so cheesy 80's in the ways I love most... it's just epic. |
That was my biggest challenge in High School
And although I do miss that Gaga. I think she needs to find a balance with her preachiness and her being a popstar. But I definitely do agree that the sheer spirit of that era is something that I miss. She really did teach me a lot, and cause me to be a little bit rebellious, not too rebellious, but just enough haha. That spirit will probably never occur again 
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People tend to diminish BTW impact, but it really set Gaga apart from her peers and made her something more than just a popstar and I'm not saying this just because I'm a Gaga fan, I trully and non-deluded believe this. Also I think it was the correct choice for her at that point in her career, no matter what she had released after that era the "downfall" was inevitable, she's has been called a "flop" even by the media and she's selling like you're average successful popstar, that says it all.
The only thing that I think this era is really missing is a message, something that truly conects with people or at least all of her fans. I like the music a lot but this whole "lets be artists" and stuff isn't making the cut for me.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Retro
I hear this viewpoint a lot and I think it's really interesting, honestly.
I think she does see us as more than just a marginalized community and knows that many of her fans don't really need the preaching, but I think she decided that it was more important to her personally to cater to and support the fans who needed help first. It's true that she may have gone so far as to almost ignore other fans, I guess.
It's just kinda interesting, you know?
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Well there are a lot of young gays out here who probably needed the support. I admire her for catering to them. Though for me, personally, her involvement outside of making gay music means more to me. I was more inspired by her activism than I was her music. Unfortunately, Born This Way pushes gays into a corner - a corner where they are unloved chubby misfits who are gay. There is so much depth she could have covered, but I do admire her effort.
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by itsAllen
That was my biggest challenge in High School
And although I do miss that Gaga. I think she needs to find a balance with her preachiness and her being a popstar. But I definitely do agree that the sheer spirit of that era is something that I miss. She really did teach me a lot, and cause me to be a little bit rebellious, not too rebellious, but just enough haha. That spirit will probably never occur again |
I think it will be back. After this era, sometime, she'll realize she's become a little too absorbed in her work and she'll go back to that BTW spirit, because I feel like the whole atmosphere she gave off with that era (and the tour especially) was the most genuine glimpse of her we've ever gotten.
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Originally posted by Cupid
Retro being the poster child for obsessive stanning
Do you ever get that in real life though, when somebody says something that's an unintentional lyric and you just wanna finish it off? I remember my mum one time saying something like "ooh there ain't no other way" in the middle of a sentence and I just wanted to scream baby I was born this way  |
Yes, and it's awful.  Someone will say off hand, I don't know, "I won't cry" - and my mind instantly goes to "Bloody Mary". Bear in mind that this still happens several times a day.
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Originally posted by Retro
I think it will be back. After this era, sometime, she'll realize she's become a little too absorbed in her work and she'll go back to that BTW spirit, because I feel like the whole atmosphere she gave off with that era (and the tour especially) was the most genuine glimpse of her we've ever gotten.
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She cancelled my date, so I wouldn't know about the tour 
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Originally posted by itsAllen
That was my biggest challenge in High School
And although I do miss that Gaga. I think she needs to find a balance with her preachiness and her being a popstar. But I definitely do agree that the sheer spirit of that era is something that I miss. She really did teach me a lot, and cause me to be a little bit rebellious, not too rebellious, but just enough haha. That spirit will probably never occur again |
Of course not! You know who you are now, right? Like, you accept yourself? If so, Gaga's work for you is done. She has helped you accomplish what she truly wants to do for people. Now all you can do is just enjoy the ride.
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