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Fan Base: Archived: Stand Your Ground (#4)
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Originally posted by rihannafan
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Originally posted by highwayuni
Actually I don't want to be associated with these loser geeks who are jumping off from the once formidable ship.
I'm getting back on one of Gaga's emergency pedal boats.
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The only thing more annoying than Gaga is ex-gaga stans who switched in the last few weeks due to interweb peer pressure. Like as if you've all collectively, spontaneously had the epiphany that she's been AWFUL for 3 years in the last 2 weeks. It really makes me want to defend Gaga 
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Screaming at Rihanna going through a backlash.
Do you mean when she got her critically acclaimed album and sympathy sales? 
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Originally posted by Kworb
I can't see Pepcé ever going off the rails. She doesn't chase highs, despite her songs she is obviously not fond of sex, the one thing she lives for is money, and she'll always have enough of that.
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She's obviously not fond of sex because her and Jay have it once a year.
He gets his highs off Rihanna and whatever other girl he can find
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Im finding it hard to believe someone from gagas professional team literally mentioned Katy Perry
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by Aleks
I have to agree here. Media has never cared enough about Rihanna to turn against her.
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Well, The media cared for knee and we all know how that turned out for her 
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Originally posted by rihannafan
Xtina blamed her fans. Beyonce is the worst though.
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Legend X never made a damn fool of herself in public time and time again.
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Member Since: 10/18/2009
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Originally posted by Callisto.
And pls Rihanna has not suffered any backlash.
The Chris Brown scandal Chris was dragged through the mud
The only people who went in on Rih were sad people online.
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Nobody give a **** about a single artist outside of their singles.
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I hope next and last single is Mary Jane Holland, the song is perfect. 
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Member Since: 1/13/2012
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Originally posted by Braz
She only needs to wear jeans (not Brinty's though), perform something acoustic without screaming, get rid of R Kelly (pedophiles are a big no everywhere), crazy costumes (ain't nobody here for that no more) and praise Beth Moore.
Australia will come to its senses...
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It won't be that easy.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Anyways rihanna made the most headlines in 2012.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Alvajay
Im finding it hard to believe someone from gagas professional team literally mentioned Katy Perry
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Why are you surprised? She used Katy's name for DWUW promo. She's so pressed by her.
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Lady Lauper 
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And this Haus of Gaga nonsense needs to stop. They're more like personal friends than co-workers and employees.
While I think it's good they can connect, I think they're getting too emotional about all this mess and not so professional. Fire them all and hire Nicole.
And on that note, she needs to bring back BoomKack and Dada.
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
the media turned against rhianna?
the media doesn't even care about rhianna
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I was about to say, lmao.
Rihanna is irrelevant, we all know what her media moment consists of. She almost got this board fooled with Katy, Gaga, and Britney dissapointed with their releases but thankfully Beysus snapped us back to our senses.
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Originally posted by Alvajay
Im finding it hard to believe someone from gagas professional team literally mentioned Katy Perry
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Lmao at you calling Gags ha team 'professional'
A bunch of amateurs and little monsters are the ones working for her. Nobody with a common sense or a strong opinion of their own will work with her anymore, we all know how that works out.
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Originally posted by Jennifer
Legend X never made a damn fool of herself in public time and time again.
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Xtina was the Gaga of her time. She was shady to Madonna and Britney and thought she was better than her peers and didn't hide it.
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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Anytime Beyonce does anything remotely negative, Anderson Cooper and every 7:00 anchor on major cable and network news jump to her defense and turn things around in her favor within 2 days.
There will never be major backlash against Beyonce.
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She probably set that whole getting punched up to get talked about.
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I know it's a long read, too long for most of you but it's interesting, I think, by Forbes
ARTPOP Goes The Weasel - A Second Glimpse Into The Deflation Of A Superstar
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In part two of our trilogy, we will dissect why Lady Gaga’s ARTPOP has underperformed, and what her depreciation says about the current state of the music business.
She Fought the Press and the Press Won
Last time in Gaga-land, we examined whether the relentless, unvarying nature of ARTPOP’s music played a part in deflated sales, and we came to the conclusion that ARTPOP was neither relentless nor unvarying; something new had taken shape on the record, though fewer listeners seemed to hear it over a din of people shouting words to the contrary.
Here we turn our attention to that din, for the story of how ARTPOP struggled against bloggers and critics gives us a credible assessment of today’s music journalism—of how what we read affects what we hear, and subsequently, what we buy.
A cursory look at the current blogosphere suggests three things: that it trends towards an ad hominem line of attack; that it moves collectively against its targets with an almost herd-like mentality; and finally, that it holds an unprecedented amount of sway over purportedly professional music journalists.
Throughout 2013, posts in the Gaga world focused predominately on a fountain of speculation concerning feuds (Kelly Osborne, Katy Perry, Cher, Perez Hilton, Madonna, et cetera), lawsuits, and rumblings of Gaga-business ventures going awry.
As promotional materials for ARTPOP began to roll out in full, the negativity surrounding Gaga had reached a fever pitch. If a song made its way onto the internet early, it was invariably panned (Spin on applause: “Wait, why are we clapping again?”) If Gaga mentioned a “burqa”, she was swiftly disparaged. If a piece of marketing went viral, the conversation turned condescending (Idolator: “As a title, ARTPOP is about as subtle as a falling piano. Or a falling dadaist print of a piano. Whatever.”)
By the time ARTPOP dropped in November, online invective surrounding the record’s release became an unmistakable influence on the actual criticism—quickly peruse some of the reviews and you can see just how far journalists bent over backwards to mention everything else before the music.
Consider how Rolling Stone spent over a hundred words cataloguing recent backstage drama in Mother Monster’s camp just so they could pose the question, “Could Artpop simply be a distraction obscuring the drama behind the curtain?”
Spin, on the other hand, took a drawn-out shot at the “the ad hoc cohort she’s assembled in the run-up to this album’s release” who “have all prioritized the artist (i.e., themselves) over the art”, thereby prioritizing a critique of those artists—who had no hand in shaping the music—over the art itself.
The irony of this kind of posturing cannot be overlooked, for it suggests that music criticism in the twenty first century has become inexorably intertwined with the noise of the blogosphere; in these times of ever shifting contexts, music can no longer be the sole purview of music critics—they must now comment with full authority on every aspect of an artist’s phenomenon, whatever it happens to be at the moment, and however the moment changes
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Of course, covering the phenomenon has always been a part of the job—one cannot talk of the Beatles with out “Beatlemania”—the problem now, with the ongoing proliferation of the opinionated word, is that the citations are no longer any good.
There is nothing concrete to build an argument upon, only noise, and reliance on this noise colors the cultural critic’s ability to appear authoritative on the art itself. In the case of ARTPOP, talk of the actual music—the melodies, harmonies, rhythms, et cetera—often bordered on the incoherent.
Consider how Entertainment Weekly characterized “Gypsy”–a loud bit of vocal gymnastics sporting a four on the flour dance beat–as “Barroom ivory tickling”, a phrase usually reserved for the exploits of Billy Joel. In an effort to devote more time to pithy pop culture statements—“What Madonna was to Gaga, Gaga is to Miley, or at least to Miley’s half-drunk teddy bears”—the reviewer summed up a song by its initial thirty seconds or so (the “barroom ivory tickling” disappears from then on out). In other words, short thrift was paid to the work itself.
Lady Gaga Calls On Fans To Report Song Leaks
Notice how Spin labelled “Aura” “an utter mess, with Gaga laughing maniacally and bleating a curiously uncatchy chorus over a kitchen-sink musical bed”, while simultaneously calling “Swine” a “big highlight, with Gaga spitting out rebukes to ‘a pig inside a human body’ over keyboard shards that seem to emulate the similarly pig-obsessed Trent Reznor.”
What’s the problem here? By any statistical measure of music, “Aura” and “Swine” are the album’s most two similar songs.
The danger of this kind of criticism lies not only in denying artists a proper summation of their work–the more significant hazard is one of saturation: if criticism takes on all the aspects of noise, it becomes indistinct from the noise, and eventually succumbs to the noise entirely. And any noise left to crescendo ad nauseam will inevitably be tuned out. This is part what we saw happening to ARTPOP.
Of course, Lady Gaga did attempt to fight back against the noise—urging audience members to report leaks, putting out the feud fires, releasing work earlier than planned, even joining the chorus of people saying “Gaga is so over”—but ultimately it was too late. She too became part of the noise, rather than part of the funk.
Still, the din of competing narratives—Gaga’s versus the blogosphere’s—is only one piece of the trifecta. The final reason why Artpop hasn’t stood up to the overwhelming successes of her previous outings lies on something else entirely: you—or more specifically—the cyclical nature of your changing tastes.
Stay tuned for part three for more
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