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Poll: Bigger Flop: ARTPOP or WARRIOR
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View Poll Results: Taking factors into consideration, which is a bigger flop?
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Hm, overall, "ARTPOP" was definitely the bigger flop between the two.
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Ah, I disagree, "WARRIOR" is definitely the bigger flop between them.
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Originally posted by Vin
Apparently, "Applause" and "Do What U Want" are considered "the hits" from "ARTPOP,"
even though neither matched the success of both "Die Young" or "Timber."
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"Timber" isn't even from Warrior (nor is Ke$ha the lead artist on that song), and "Applause" will easily match "Die Young"'s sales when it's all said and done.
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Originally posted by Cherry
ARTPOP is selling roughly at the same pace as Bangerz and PRISM, two of the biggest pop releases of the year.
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But "BEYONCÉ" is the biggest pop release of the year.
...Vin
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Originally posted by Vin
But "BEYONCÉ" is the biggest pop release of the year.
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"two of". Please read.
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Originally posted by GaSkrillex
WW sales after 10 weeks : @MileyCyrus, Bangerz 70,000 ( 1,056,000 total).
WW sales after 4 weeks : WW sales: @ladygaga, ARTPOP 131,000 ( 1,069,000 total).
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Originally posted by alfonso12
According to the UWC:
ARTPOP: 1.019.000
Applause: 3,430,000 points (and still charting, will end up around 3.9)
Do What U Want: 937,000 points
Warrior: 113,000 (it has sold like 500k in a year tho)
Die Young: 3,824,000
C'Mon: 304,000
Gaga: 3
Ke$ha: 0
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 Not Vin being clocked with facts twice on one page.
People saying the "drop" makes ARTPOP the bigger flop instead of, you know, actual sales. Ke$ha has never sold enough albums first week to even have a drop so what does that make her as an artist?
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Dr.Cake
How so? 
Maybe not in the US, where it sold around 1.3 - 1.4M, but definitely WW where it barely passed 3M.
ARTPOP is already well over 1M worldwide and it won't need 4 years to top 3M.
And you should know there is a world outside the US so not everything limits itself to the US market...
Worldwide sales are way more important and are the ones that reflect the commercial appeal of an album and Animal was nothing more than a local mess. |
You let me know when ARTPOP sells 3 million WW. Until then, you can take a seat.
Tik Tok alone ***** ALL OVER ArtFAIL.
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
You let me know when ARTPOP sells 3 million WW. Until then, you can take a seat.
Tik Tok alone ***** ALL OVER ArtFAIL.
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I wouldn't start talking **** so soon when ARTPOP passed the million mark in four weeks. Even if it doesn't hit 3 million, you're comparing it to Ke$ha's debut - I can see why you wouldn't want to compare it to Ke$ha's current album - from 4 years ago which produced one of the biggest singles of all time.
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Originally posted by Cherry
I wouldn't start talking **** so soon when ARTPOP passed the million mark in four weeks. Even if it doesn't hit 3 million, you're comparing it to Ke$ha's debut - I can see why you wouldn't want to compare it to Ke$ha's current album - from 4 years ago which produced one of the biggest singles of all time.
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I wasn't the one the brought up Animal. 
I have already said Warrior was the bigger flop.
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Originally posted by GoneHome
2 Top 10 hits and 1 Top 15 hit that has a chance of going Top 10 if she'd release the damn video. 
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Only 1. DOPE is a fluke...
Anyway, ARTPOP is the biggest flop. It dropped hardly than Warrior (If we compared it from their past eras) Die Young is more successful than Applause. Other releases on both albums are messes.
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Originally posted by Remixed
warrior sold 300k worldwide, so that
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The delusion with ARTPOP votes.
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ARTPOP, Ke$ha is just not a big artist. Gaga was supposed to sell A LOT more. Die Young was a big hit
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Originally posted by liberalmusiclover
ARTPOP. Ke$ha was always a singles artist, so her sales didn't come as a surprise especially since she had already had a steep decline between Animal and Cannibal. Gaga on the other hand dropped from 1.1 million to 258K.  |
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People saying gaga fell from 1.1 million are always the ones who'll bring up the 99cent deal
she can't win either way 
Warrior is obviously the bigger flop, people voting ARTPOP are hilarious
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Most of this poll is ridiculous, if this poll was ARTPOP Vs. Lotus people would still vote ARTPOP because Lotus was expected to flop and the last album didn't sell 1.1 million before. Warrior was less commercially successful on every measurement compared to Warrior, period. The expectations surrounding the albums are irrelevant. If this was which was the biggest disappointment, that would be a different discussion. I love them both, but that's just the truth.
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| Country | ARTPOP | Warrior | | Australia | 2 | 12 | | Austria | 1 | 44 | | Belgium | 2 | 129 | | Brazil | 1 | * | | Denmark | 5 | * | | Finland | 3 | * | | France | 3 | 156 | | Germany | 3 | * | | Ireland | 2 | 64 | | Italy | 2 | 79 | | Japan | 1 | 17 | | Netherlands | 4 | * | | New Zealand | 2 | 30 | | Norway | 4 | * | | Poland | 8 | * | | Portugal | 4 | * | | Spain | 4 | 50 | | Sweden | 6 | * | | Switzerland | 2 | 63 | | UK | 1 | 60 | | United World Chart | 1 | 16 | | US | 1 | 6 | | Wins | 22 | 0 |
*failed to chart
| Week | ARTPOP: Position/Sales/Total | Warrior: Position/Sales/Total | | 1 | 11 58k* 58k | 16 113k 113k | | 2 | 1 553k 611k | OUT N/A | | 3 | 3 132k 743k | OUT N/A | | 4 | 4 195k 938k | OUT N/A | | 5 | 10 131k 1.069m | OUT N/A |
*Japan-only
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Come on Vin, I expected better 
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Warrior. ARTPOP didn't flop, it under-performed compared to her previous eras. A success, nonetheless.
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Originally posted by Duca
| Country | ARTPOP | Warrior | | Australia | 2 | 12 | | Austria | 1 | 44 | | Belgium | 2 | 129 | | Brazil | 1 | * | | Denmark | 5 | * | | Finland | 3 | * | | France | 3 | 156 | | Germany | 3 | * | | Ireland | 2 | 64 | | Italy | 2 | 79 | | Japan | 1 | 17 | | Netherlands | 4 | * | | New Zealand | 2 | 30 | | Norway | 4 | * | | Poland | 8 | * | | Portugal | 4 | * | | Spain | 4 | 50 | | Sweden | 6 | * | | Switzerland | 2 | 63 | | UK | 1 | 60 | | United World Chart | 1 | 16 | | US | 1 | 6 | | Wins | 22 | 0 |
*failed to chart
| Week | ARTPOP: Position/Sales/Total | Warrior: Position/Sales/Total | | 1 | 11 58k* 58k | 16 113k 113k | | 2 | 1 553k 611k | OUT N/A | | 3 | 3 132k 743k | OUT N/A | | 4 | 4 195k 938k | OUT N/A | | 5 | 10 131k 1.069m | OUT N/A |
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The PUNCH.
It's easy though.
ARTPOP first week: 500k+
Warrior in 2 years: less than 500k
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Warrior was a bigger flop.
That being said, I loved Warrior. One of the best albums of 2012.
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Most of this poll is ridiculous, if this poll was ARTPOP Vs. Lotus people would still vote ARTPOP because Lotus was expected to flop and the last album didn't sell 1.1 million before. Warrior was less commercially successful on every measurement compared to Warrior, period. The expectations surrounding the albums are irrelevant. If this was which was the biggest disappointment, that would be a different discussion. I love them both, but that's just the truth.
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That's not quite true. "Flop" is a relative term and in order to gauge whether something flopped you have to look at the initial expectations and prior numbers. If a Keri Hilson cover band sold 50k first week I definitely wouldn't call that a flop because no one would have dreamed of it selling that much.
It's why people are calling ARTPOP a flop, because expectations for the album were much higher and her previous sales numbers were much higher.
That said the answer is still obviously Warrior.
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