[Hotshot]

Originally posted by H-I-M

I know she puts a lot of love into her music, and my lastfm charts agree, but being a pop star is more than just music, and Gaga so far has disappointed (at least to me) in the music videos, performances and looks departments.

if that's your idea of an artist then you should stan for manufactured puppets like Katy or those tacky asian girl group. that's where they excel not the music

[HighwayHooker]

Originally posted by H-I-M

I know she puts a lot of love into her music, and my lastfm charts agree, but being a pop star is more than just music, and Gaga so far has disappointed (at least to me) in the music videos, performances and looks departments.

Most of the looks have been good for me (except for the ridiculous clown makeup), the performances have been ok, kind of the same level as the majority of the BTW performances and Applause video is good, even if I do think it's like a blend of a lot of her other videos.

Its her persona this time around which is making the experience less enjoyable for me. She has come off as very desperate. And I still couldn't explain what ARTPOP means if someone asked me, except for anything.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by ivi

And that's the tea.

Let's not forget all the monsters crawling out screaming "DOPE JUST HIT ME! IT'S SO AMAZING" once it was No. 1 everywhere.

[HighwayHooker]

Originally posted by Hotshot

I don't really see a good live performance coming from a song like DWUW. Maybe that's why Gaga didn't want it to be a single at first. Cuz she's a performance artiste

!!
Also, if she wants to channel sexy in the performances, she needs to stay clear of the XFactor and SNL looks. She looked so awkward

[H-I-M]

Originally posted by Hotshot

if that's your idea of an artist then you should stan for manufactured puppets like Katy or those tacky asian girl group. that's where they excel not the music

TF/TFM Gaga had the looks, videos, performances AND music, does that make her a "manufactured puppet" ?

[Vertigo Stick]

Aside from her Twitter, this era really isn't that bad. There just isn't any promo. I assume it is because 1) they want to expand promo and 2) the limitations of her hip

[Hotshot]

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚

So you jump ship/abandon someone because you're concerned about the person?
Who exactly are you trying to fool here?
You can save the "Oh I don't stan for success, I stood by her during MTN" ******** for yourself.

Also, tell me more about GAGA's terrible choices this era. (Assuming you'd relate her actions with her twitter replies/tweets, you can skip that)

let's not act like most people would be here if Gaga become a full time meth addict and not jump ship. the sales and bad reviews would have been just the final nail in the coffin for most monsters. i mean she's been betraying us since btw era but at least we are rewarded with bragging rights provided by the success receipts. but now that she's still doing the same mistakes on her career and things are just going downhill from here now on, you should understand that it's just logical to jump ship

[venuss]

So, did Gaga really fire her manager? I think she did, that American Express sponsorship pulled is the proof.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by Hotshot

let's not act like most people would be here if Gaga become a full time meth addict and not jump ship. the sales and bad reviews would have been just the final nail in the coffin for most monsters. i mean she's been betraying us since btw era but at least we are rewarded with bragging rights provided by the success receipts. but now that she's still doing the same mistakes on her career and things are just going downhill from here now on, you should understand that it's just logical to jump ship

If you stan for success, yes, it is logical to jump ship.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by venuss

So, did Gaga really fire her manager? I think she did, that American Express sponsorship pulled is the proof.

What sponsorship?

[VanityEgo]

Originally posted by H-I-M

I know she puts a lot of love into her music, and my lastfm charts agree, but being a pop star is more than just music, and Gaga so far has disappointed (at least to me) in the music videos, performances and looks departments.

God have mercy. Heaven forbid that she had the audacity to choose clothes with her personal taste and idea of how her album should be represented instead of dressing to please her fans.

If she listened to some of her fans, she'd style herself like Britney Spears in her good years. If you wanna see that just go back to 2005.

[HighwayHooker]

Speaking of her hip, has anyone noticed a lot of her performances with choreography have been done in her bare feet?

[ivi]

Originally posted by venuss

So, did Gaga really fire her manager? I think she did, that American Express sponsorship pulled is the proof.

During the Howard Stern interview Howard said that she fired her manager and talked to her about something but she didn't deny this. Plus the SNL joke makes it obvious.

So I'd say yes. They will hardly release a press release about it.

[venuss]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

What sponsorship?

This

“American Express had been in discussions to potentially live stream Lady Gaga’s performance during Sunday’s ArtRave event. American Express decided not to proceed with the live stream because of an inability to reach a mutual agreement on the production of the event. However, American Express honored its commitments to Lady Gaga and her team, and the event was able to proceed without an official role for American Express.

Lady Gaga is an incredible artist and we hope to work together in the future.”

[X]

[Hotshot]

Originally posted by H-I-M

TF/TFM Gaga had the looks, videos, performances AND music, does that make her a "manufactured puppet" ?

yes. you could see that she was a "brand" during that era that was marketed as "weird" by her label. i couldn't imagine gaga wanting by herself to have her nose photoshopped on bad romance video. you could obviously observe that she was trying to please the public on tf/tfm era

[ivi]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

What sponsorship?

http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...million-dollar

“American Express had been in discussions to potentially live stream Lady Gaga’s performance during Sunday’s ArtRave event. American Express decided not to proceed with the live stream because of an inability to reach a mutual agreement on the production of the event. However, American Express honored its commitments to Lady Gaga and her team, and the event was able to proceed without an official role for American Express.

Lady Gaga is an incredible artist and we hope to work together in the future.”

This to me reads they still paid something.

edit: oops too late

[VanityEgo]

Originally posted by HighwayHooker

Speaking of her hip, has anyone noticed a lot of her performances with choreography have been done in her bare feet?

Yeah true but then again her seashell bikini look didn't really call for high heels, or any shoes at all.

[Hotshot]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

If you stan for success, yes, it is logical to jump ship.

lol can't yall see that gaga is singlehandedly trying to destroy her own career and whatever legacy she have built in little time? she needs a good manager and stahp with ha creative differences sh!t

[Reb'l Rêveur]

Originally posted by Hotshot

if that's your idea of an artist then you should stan for manufactured puppets like Katy or those tacky asian girl group. that's where they excel not the music

[Darren-5-08]

Interesting... Would have been a nice opportunity