[Beyy]

All of these numbers are impressive. I won't be grossing more than $50 dollars. K.

Stop fighting ladies and gentlemen. Keep it classy like Beyoncé.

[EdgeOfAddiction]

Originally posted by simon

The Navy LOVE to bring in the stadiums, forgetting that David Guetta was the opening act. I heard some actually thought it was an EDM Festival.

She did multiple other stadiums throughout the world without Guetta as the opener.
But to be THAT big that you have an A list star to be your opening act. Rih just doesn't make it fair for the other girls.


And the fact that you're considering Guetta to be EDM.

[jokermusic]

Originally posted by swissman

As much as people don't want to see it, a hit song is better promo than 5 live performances.

If you have a hit song, it will be played at sporting events, in grocery stores, in boutiques, in pharmacies, on the radio when you're driving somewhere, in soundtracks, commercials, at parties, at your friend's house, etc. etc. If you are promoting a song (let's say, Run the World) over and over and clearly not many people are identifying it, how is that selling your album?

At the end of the day these albums sold what they sold. Doing promo could be compared to preparing for a race. You do as much of it as you can for success. But your success isn't viewed based on the amount of practice, just if you succeeded or not.

but If I beat you in the race without practice or do better than you on a test without studying....I honestly do expect the person who put in the most work to do better...maybe you don't but I do

maybe that's why beyonces tour is more successful cuz we the public knows she puts in more work on stage than Rihanna


and also while a hit single is promo, many artist have hit singles and flop albums....ask Jason derulo,pitbull,taio cruz and kasha....

its not easy to determine which is more influential on sales but I think heavy videos,tv promotion,ads, and little airplay of singles vs little videos,tv promotion,ads, and heavy airplay of singles.................I would still expect the first to do better

mind you beyonce had a lot of airplay of urban stations

[MLover]

Originally posted by simon

The Navy LOVE to bring in the stadiums, forgetting that David Guetta was the opening act. I heard some actually thought it was an EDM Festival.

[Funhouse]

Beyoncé or P!nk.

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

P!nk wouldn't have a show without her acrobatics and without roofs on stadiums, P!nk will forever be limited to arenas until she changes up her schtick.

P!nk has already played sold out stadiums with acrobatic-filled shows on the funhouse summer carnival tour. It's just that the acrobatics in the TTAL tour wouldn't be possible without a roof.

[WeFoundWill]

Carter & Diamonds

[MLover]

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction

She did multiple other stadiums throughout the world without Guetta as the opener.
But to be THAT big that you have an A list star to be your opening act. Rih just doesn't make it fair for the other girls.

So Rihanna needed one of the worlds biggest DJs to co-headline with her in France which is one of Davids biggest areas

[Timber]

Originally posted by MLover

So Rihanna needed one of the worlds biggest DJs to co-headline with her in France which is one of Davids biggest areas

David Guetta ft Rihanna

[MaRy]

Originally posted by Timber

David Guetta ft Rihanna

It don't matter because she got all the money

[MLover]

Originally posted by Timber

David Guetta ft Rihanna

LOL didn't the flyers for the tour clearly indicate it was a tour for both of them ???

[jokermusic]

Originally posted by MLover

So Rihanna needed one of the worlds biggest DJs to co-headline with her in France which is one of Davids biggest areas

yes because 70,000 people bought a ticket for 30 minutes of a dj, in an area where Rihanna is STILL A BIGGER STAR.......2 chainz is a big rapper but when he was the opening, no one flocked there because of him, its just like an extra horray

[MLover]

Originally posted by MaRy

It don't matter because she got all the money

She wouldn't without David. And let's not act like she got all the money.

[swissman]

Originally posted by jokermusic

but If I beat you in the race without practice or do better than you on a test without studying....I honestly do expect the person who put in the most work to do better...maybe you don't but I do

maybe that's why beyonces tour is more successful cuz we the public knows she puts in more work on stage than Rihanna


and also while a hit single is promo, many artist have hit singles and flop albums....ask Jason derulo,pitbull,taio cruz and kasha....

its not easy to determine which is more influential on sales but I think heavy videos,tv promotion,ads, and little airplay of singles vs little videos,tv promotion,ads, and heavy airplay of singles.................I would still expect the first to do better

mind you beyonce had a lot of airplay of urban stations

Sure but if we're still talking about Rihanna here, she didn't do 0 promo. She had some pretty great promo opportunities this last era. Not to mention a hit single can be considered "prep work" for your album as it shows that audiences already have taken to your music and are listening to it. Of course though, there are exceptions to every rule as you pointed out (Ke$ha, Jason DeRulo) but that is mostly due to the fact that the public just doesn't care about the artist that much.

[Timber]

Originally posted by MaRy

It don't matter because she got all the money

[NX127]

Originally posted by frenchyisback

U are wrong.
Only 60 dates were reported and she grossed 105million so far from her biggest markets: Brazil, USA, uk

Reported so far :

Europa : 52.2M / 33 dates
United States + Canada : 40.5M / 26 dates
Latin America + Carrebian : 19.8M / 8 dates
Oceania : 32.9M / 16 dates

Total : 145.1M / 83 dates
Average : 1.75M / date

Still there're 9 dates yet to be reported + 15 dates yet to be played. Not to mention many upcoming legs.

[DG1]

Originally posted by MaRy

It don't matter because she got all the money

Now if you're bringing money into this, then Beyoncé wins. Her tour expenses are covered by Pepsi, L'oréal and MasterCard. Her take home pay is much, much higher than the other girls. Plus, her label doesn't stand to make a lot from this tour.

[MaRy]

Originally posted by MLover

She wouldn't without David. And let's not act like she got all the money.

Well it's her tour the gross is hers, he got payed what opening acts get.

[Ady.]

I don't trust Beyhive when Pollstar obv counted Beyonce's festivals in Europe

[jokermusic]

Originally posted by swissman

Sure but if we're still talking about Rihanna here, she didn't do 0 promo. She had some pretty great promo opportunities this last era. Not to mention a hit single can be considered "prep work" for your album as it shows that audiences already have taken to your music and are listening to it. Of course though, there are exceptions to every rule as you pointed out (Ke$ha, Jason DeRulo) but that is mostly due to the fact that the public just doesn't care about the artist that much.

lets just agree to disagree....some areas bey wins, some rih wins .....I love both and don't really care


so heyyyyyy and byyyyyeeeee

[DG1]

Originally posted by Ady.

I don't trust Beyhive when Pollstar obv counted Beyonce's festivals in Europe

But Beyoncé has only played 1 festival in EU when PollStar list came out. So what exactly you're talking about. And if anything, PollStar has been under-estimating her gross:


PollStar:
Beyoncé
Palacio De Los Desportes
Mexico City, Mexico
19,027 / 19,107
$1,842,161

Billboard:
Beyoncé
Palacio De Los Desportes
Mexico City, Mexico
19,027 / 19,107
$1,858,905

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Pollstar:
Beyoncé
Rod Laver, Arena
Melborne, Australia
47,320 / 47,320
7,608,937

Billboard:
Beyoncé
Rod Laver Arena
Melbourne, Australia
47,320 / 47,320
$7,890,660

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PollStar:
Beyoncé
Allphones Arena
Sydney, Australia
56,822 / 56,822
$9,254,433

Billboard:
Beyoncé
Allphones Arena
Sydney, Australia
56,822 / 56,822
$9,422,280

That's just a few examples.