[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by Big Smoke

1. calling a spade a spade. If you exhibit thot behaviour, shieet, expect those type of comments

2. This is the exact same melodramatic slop that I'm talking about.

Negro, did you just say "oppress?"

No what's disgusting is your weak arguments that you use to justify your so called opinions. Opression in America is exactly what you just exhibited calling people names because of how they like to express their sexuality, funny you never called drake or any of them other rappers you rocked in your avi thot's, yet rihanna is one for tweeting some lyrics. If your going by that though process I should see you calling both men & women out equally.

Originally posted by Big Smoke

How exactly are women in America (or any developed country, no less) being "oppressed" and how are these retarded bloggers stopping any sort of oppression when they worry about a song that sounds "rapey." Who the **** says rapey? Who the **** worries about a goddamn song? Or a ****ing animated character in a dress?
or LEGOS. Its disgusting tbh.

Women are oppressed simply by one fact many make less on the dollar for the same job that their male counterparts recieve, women are oppressed because when certain situations like rape happens. A lot of people feel the need to know her sexual history or what she was wearing as if that's some type of invitation to no consent.

A song is a platform and speaks volumes about one's characters or how they feel about situations. [B]If you don't stand for anything you fall for everything. It's important to call out misogynistic songs simply because if you don't it provides the leeway for ignorant people to push the boundaries even more. It's important and the fact you can't see that speaks volumes.

Gays are being oppressed my *****. Women arent. No one's holding them back.

Tell me where anything I've said, or anything brought up in the last, I dont know 5 years in the mainstream media as an "issue" in America that fits in that meaning. Very few.

There are bigger things in the world to worry about than what these so called "activists" flash their light on. But then again youre young and American, so that's twice the ignorance.

eing American simply does not make one ignorant just like being from whatever island your from makes you somewhat superior in thought processes. I'm American so am I ignorant simply because of my nationality. The fact you made that glaring over generalization again speaks volumes about your own insecurities and biases than anyone else. And no one is denying their are other huge issues in the world, but if you refuse to clean up the mess that's HAPPENING INSIDE AMERICA. It just worsens the situations and increases racism, sexism & homophobia among other things. No one is stating that their isn't starving children or that we should donate to the homeless but that doesn't mean these issues that do affect me or many others should be ignored.

Women are getting gang raped in India.
There's countries in the middle east that has laws that allow for rape.


THAT is rape culture.

not "I know you want it" in a damn song or any thing in a song. Yall have it easy.

And so are women in America and WORLDWIDE, many women in America don't come full force because of people so called "s.l.u.t. shaming". Let's take a look at this significant case that had to bring anonymous an organization in the middle of the controversy:

Steubenville High School rape case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben...hool_rape_case

The fact that these boys raped her and proceeded to go on social media and mock her is alarming and this happens in the same country where you say no one is oppressed. Did you read into this case and many others that stated the women where some what at fault, or the boy's shouldn't be punished as much?? Something tells me you have not.

Another thing I dont like about feminists is this mantra that somehow men have it easier.

Really?

Men have it easier?

Divorce laws anyone?
Domestic violence laws?
Child support?
Chivalry?

Well because men have a thing called privilege in a simple example a man can be accomplished and they won't mention anything about him being a good father. Men can get away without being judged so harshly for their looks in this world, Men have the ability to sexually express themselves anyway (i'm talking the straight ones), without being called names. Men in many places get paid higher on the dollar than women for the same job. Damn have you read the news about so many women getting sexually harassed in the workplace and don't feel they have the power to say anything .

I bet you if Fleece Johnson said "Girl I likes ya, and I wants ya" MSNBC would be bankrupt by the next week.

I dont hate feminism. It's just that these idiots are doing it wrong.

Umm no have you heard to catch a predator that show didn't go off air because they talked about wanting to hook up with minor girls. There are several specials on tv talking about this type of abuse, and it ranges also from their into plots of tv shows/movies. No you do hate feminism as evidenced by this ridiculous rant.

tl;dr

**** Ariana Huffington
**** Lindy West
**** Tumblr as a staff, website and a mother****ing crew
Chino XL, **** you too
**** that stupid bitch poster Arking
**** Buzzfeed
**** Gawker
**** Jezebel
**** Mobb Deep
**** all those feminist Twitter accounts that get mad at sexy Halloween costumes
**** obese people. Jump on a goddamn treadmill, Type 2 diabetes is not sexy.
**** Ray William Johnson
**** that stupid equal sign profile picture **** on Facebook. That aint changing no laws broski
**** Soulja Boy
**** whose mad at LEGO for that Hey babe sticker. Go **** yourself its a damn sticker.
**** Zooey Deschanel. Emily is a better actor than you.

Live and let Live. Feed your family. Laugh a little bit. Fight when we have to fight, not every damn thing is a battle. unless it gets physical, or actually oppressive, Shut the **** up and keep it moving.

Yeah, I think that covers it.

This is probably the most ironic part of your entire long and unnecessary/unneeded rant the bold is too much I can't possibly take it. Your basically saying fight when we need to fight and when feminists and other organizations do that you have an issue with that. And judging from this post you don't know a thing about actual things called oppression. I think that covers my entire response

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by MCBeth

Do you realize how small of percentage that is? It doesn't have to specify, majority as in more than 90% of rapes, assaults happen to women by men. Stop trying to change the facts. Men are oppressed but women are just bitches that like to complain about little things right?



Giving me "white people are oppressed by black people" teas.

You're THAT person that would blame rape on the female too. One of my 5 friends will be raped, one out of my college friends will be raped in college, in the U.S. etc. This is only the U.S. not including the world.

Exactly and the funny thing about all them little rants is it's a REFLECTION of himself at the end of the day the only person looking a damn fool, like Mz. Janet has said:

"is nobody but you"

People be trying it way too much on this forum

[Javan]

Originally posted by MCBeth

Do you realize how small of percentage that is? It doesn't have to specify, majority as in more than 90% of rapes, assaults happen to women by men. Stop trying to change the facts. Men are oppressed but women are just bitches that like to complain about little things right?



Giving me "white people are oppressed by black people" teas.

You're THAT person that would blame rape on the female too. One of my 5 friends will be raped, one out of my college friends will be raped in college, in the U.S. etc. This is only the U.S. not including the world.

What is your source tho? I don't victim blame. I mean, these 2 feminist cops came in our school to teach us about consented sex laws, and she said that if we were strapped up and ****ed against our will by a woman, it wouldn't be rape + "we will probably enjoy it". I can't take some y'all feminists seriously anymore after that. I can't believe I was forced to laugh that off by my teacher

[RudeBoyy]

According to the website where MCBeth got ha info from 1 in 10 Rape victims are men and 9/10 are women

[Javan]

Those numbers don't look pretty so I guess I'll give your argument a closer look anyway.

[Big Smoke]

Originally posted by MCBeth

I can't even with some of you. That is exactly the same attitude as the people that say "she was raped because of what she was wearing", "she asked for it", "she has a reputation, so when she said 'no' she was just playing hard to get", etc. I can't even

First off, anyone that says she asked for it is retarded.

However, if a woman decides to get inebriated to the point she cant even stand up straight, with a bunch of dudes she doesnt know, well, the world isnt perfect.

I mean it's not like Women face any issues, right. Please cry me a ****ing river.

Do you know how many girls are raped, assaulted, married off to as an insanely young age, human trafficked, have their genital cut, be denied education, be beaten and assaulted by their husbands, etc in the world?

I just said the same thing lol.
and FOH @ 97% of rapists going free. How are they generating those stats?

Women in developed countries are better off but even they are expected to work and come home, clean and take care of the children. NEVERMIND the goddamn fact that women don't get paid the same payment as men for performing the SAME damn tasks. Do you even know how ridiculous you sound?

Oh you mean like regular person with a family? It's called responsibility. Men have **** to do in the home when they come home as well.

And what exactly is the "same work?"

I mean in the U.S AFRICAN-AMERICANS aka former slaves were granted the right to vote before white women, how equal does that sound to you?

But they voting, right? Tell me how this is relevant NOW. Tell me how women are being oppressed NOW.

It's all equivalent to saying = Black people get welfare, have a black man in white house, get our tax money, free education, etc but they're just too lazy and just love to complain, what is the difference?

Women arent getting shot up in the streets by white people with no consequence.
Actually, if you tell me, women actually have it easiest.

[Igrt]

We should go bump that Serious Topics thread back up tbh the way this is going.

I feel messy, I think I'm going to create a new thread.

[RudeBoyy]

Igrt his desperation for people to finally start posting in his flop "Serious Topics" thread.

[Javan]

Now I see why the numbers are so large and contradict FBI statistics. Rape allegations are either decided true, false or can't be proven. Around 30% of the allegations have actually been proven and 2% - 8% are false, but the studies are biased and they combine the can't be proven cases with true cases, which is leaves the remainder of 92% at most , hence the large numbers.

Also as I have pointed out. We will never know if women rape men nearly as much or more than men rape women, as the definition is not even gender neutral. And imo there is just as much if not more pressure on men to come forward about it anyway.

[Igrt]

Originally posted by RudeBoyy

Igrt his desperation for people to finally start posting in his flop "Serious Topics" thread.

ExSQUEEZE me sis?

First of all:The Serious Topics thread was started by I Am Music, NOT myself.

Second of all I am gonna create a NEW thread on a serious topic that I thought up a while ago bit never actually threaded.

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by Big Smoke

First off, anyone that says she asked for it is retarded.

However, if a woman decides to get inebriated to the point she cant even stand up straight, with a bunch of dudes she doesnt know, well, the world isnt perfect.

And that's the point if a women can't consent you shouldn't be assaulting her like that, don't come after the victim. The perpetrators deserve that

Originally posted by Big Smoke

I just said the same thing lol.
and FOH @ 97% of rapists going free. How are they generating those stats?

Okay so which one do I trust more an actual organization which has some form of data to back themselves up or a man who foolishly said women aren't oppressed in America and went on a long rant???? It's not that hard to believe remember many women don't come forward with their tales of rape, and many don't press charges. Couple with the fact some men get off it happens that's life

Oh you mean like regular person with a family? It's called responsibility. Men have **** to do in the home when they come home as well.

And what exactly is the "same work?"

It's a thing called sexism the fact women don't get paid as much on the dollar as men do for working the same job and have the same qualifications in many situations is despicable

But they voting, right? Tell me how this is relevant NOW. Tell me how women are being oppressed NOW.

Women arent getting shot up in the streets by white people with no consequence.
Actually, if you tell me, women actually have it easiest.

. But a huge portion of women are being raped and don't report their crimes because they don't feel powerful

. Sexual Harassment in the workplace

. Getting paid less on the dollar

. Spousal abuse

. Held and judged harshly on their looks to the point when someone trys to tar their characted they come after her looks

etc.... Have a huge effect on women as an educated person to deny that is insane

[Javan]

Who's going to make the

"Whos fault is it that black artists cant smash with urban". Poll options:
- Record Label's. managemet etc fault
- Society

[RudeBoyy]

Originally posted by Igrt

ExSQUEEZE me sis?

First of all:The Serious Topics thread was started by I Am Music, NOT myself.

Second of all I am gonna create a NEW thread on a serious topic that I thought up a while ago bit never actually threaded.

I'm jk babe

[BLaCKPoWeR]

Of COURSE women are oppressed in the United States. There are millions of girls as young as 12 being trafficked as sex slaves in this country. Teenage girls are still being forced into arranged marriages. Women are obviously raped more often than men (they're at a physical disadvantage from birth). They still get blamed for their own rapes instead of their rapists. Half of this country still gives men the right to decide what women may and may not do with their bodies. Women are still being outcast and compared to DOGS for engaging in the same sexual activity that men do. Women are still paid considerably less than men.

You ain't even gotta take it there. There are millions of men walking around wearing shirts that say "Cool story, babe. Now go make me a sandwich."

Women have ALWAYS been oppressed. It's been like that since humankind existed. How could they not be oppressed all of the sudden? The 19th amendment only came about 90 years ago.

You're a guy. I'm a guy. I don't know what it's like to be a girl. You won't catch me telling some girl it ain't that hard. Why? Because I wouldn't know what I'm talking about not having experienced it.

[Igrt]

Originally posted by RudeBoyy

I'm jk babe

I'm sorry, sis

[RudeBoyy]

Originally posted by Javan

Who's going to make the

"Whos fault is it that black artists cant smash with urban". Poll options:
- Record Label's. managemet etc fault
- Society

For black artist that make pure urban music I think it's society, but for people who make pop/urban. I think it's the record label's fault.

Like Rihanna for example.

Loveeeeeee Song was blowing up on itunes and radio and they still released Right Now over it (to date Loveeee Song has still sold more than Flop Now without a release.) They also refused to give Pour it up a pop adds date or WW release.

[MCBeth]

Originally posted by Javan

What is your source tho? I don't victim blame. I mean, these 2 feminist cops came in our school to teach us about consented sex laws, and she said that if we were strapped up and ****ed against our will by a woman, it wouldn't be rape + "we will probably enjoy it". I can't take some y'all feminists seriously anymore after that. I can't believe I was forced to laugh that off by my teacher

Originally posted by Big Smoke

First off, anyone that says she asked for it is retarded.

However, if a woman decides to get inebriated to the point she cant even stand up straight, with a bunch of dudes she doesnt know, well, the world isnt perfect.



I just said the same thing lol.
and FOH @ 97% of rapists going free. How are they generating those stats?


Oh you mean like regular person with a family? It's called responsibility. Men have **** to do in the home when they come home as well.

And what exactly is the "same work?"



But they voting, right? Tell me how this is relevant NOW. Tell me how women are being oppressed NOW.



Women arent getting shot up in the streets by white people with no consequence.
Actually, if you tell me, women actually have it easiest.

Sistrens, please enlighten yourselves. All your questions have been answered multiple times. Women today are oppressed by not getting the same amount as their male counterparts for performing the same tasks, being judge for how much they way, being judge for their physical appearance, being looked down upon for how they choose to express themselves sexually when men aren't, 1 in 5 females being raped in their lives, etc. If that isn't oppression what is?

It's like rappers calling women bitches, ****s, ****s, whatever else is okay and anyone that responds is just an annoying bitch that has nothing better to do than complain. Meanwhile a white person says ***** then all hell breaks loose. I mean look at Paula Deen, where is she now? She's been crucified for saying the N word....

Take ADELE as an example, she's heavy and people constantly make fun of her because of that while Stevie Wonder, Biggie, Ce-Lo, etc are all heavy but no one gives a **** or gives them grief about it until they lose weight.

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The figures are compiled from various sources on a Huffington Post article:

Violence Prevention: http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePreventio...ataSheet-a.pdf
RAINN (Rape Abuse Incest National Network): http://www.rainn.org/get-information...eporting-rates

The info from RAINN is complied from:
Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010
FBI, Uniform Crime Reports: 2006-2010
National Center for Policy Analysis, Crime and Punishment in America, 1999
Department of Justice, Felony Defendents in Large Urban Counties: average of 2002-2006
Department of Justice, Felony Defendents in Large Urban Counties: average of 2002-2006

Here is the Huffington Post article which has all the stats I posted above + the source they got the info from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya...b_2019338.html

[Javan]

Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR

Of COURSE women are oppressed in the United States. There are millions of girls as young as 12 being trafficked as sex slaves in this country.

Child trafficking is sad, but I don't see what that has got to do with oppression tbh. It's not like it's legal or prevalent. It just means there is more of a demand for young females than young men. I see nothing wrong with female prostitution in general. Who are you to tell any girl what they can and cannot do with their body. Legalizing prostitution will only bring about positive things.

Teenage girls are still being forced into arranged marriages.

In American culture?

Women are obviously raped more often than men (they're at a physical disadvantage from birth). They still get blamed for their own rapes instead of their rapists.

That's not just something females have to deal with.

Half of this country still gives men the right to decide what women may and may not do with their bodies.

Now you have a point. But you'd be surprised on how many women are pro life.

Women are still being outcast and compared to DOGS for engaging in the same sexual activity that men do.

But men are still being outcasted for acting like women too.

You ain't even gotta take it there. There are millions of men walking around wearing shirts that say "Cool story, babe. Now go make me a sandwich."

I chuckled but can't help but think of a time when "hey, my eyes are up here" shirts were trendy

[Javan]

Originally posted by MCBeth

Take ADELE as an example, she's heavy and people constantly make fun of her because of that while Stevie Wonder, Biggie, Ce-Lo, etc are all heavy but no one gives a **** or gives them grief about it until they lose weight.

Those are all women tho . The reason why feminists hardly get anywhere, is because women are always hating on each other. Look at selfproclaimed feminist lorde, tearing down every pretty girl she is threatened by. Believe me, there is pressure on men too, to have 6 packs and pecs etc. Nobody wants to be fat, Cee lo and Rick Ross have both been shamed for their weight. The only difference is, we don't judge other guys like that, we don't give a ****. Only WOMEN will make, watch and SUPPORT shows like Fashion Police, Wendy Williams show & E News and by into magazines and blogs etc in where other women are constantly judged on their weight and looks. Not men. Another reason why feminism is a sham.

[Big Smoke]

Originally posted by Gangsta4alife

No what's disgusting is your weak arguments that you use to justify your so called opinions. Opression in America is exactly what you just exhibited calling people names because of how they like to express their sexuality, funny you never called drake or any of them other rappers you rocked in your avi thot's, yet rihanna is one for tweeting some lyrics. If your going by that though process I should see you calling both men & women out equally.

N*gga what

Women are oppressed simply by one fact many make less on the dollar for the same job that their male counterparts recieve, women are oppressed because when certain situations like rape happens. A lot of people feel the need to know her sexual history or what she was wearing as if that's some type of invitation to no consent.

What is the "same job" Do they have the same responsibilities? Do they perform the exact same tasks? Like down to a tee where they would earn the exact same money. Show me that.

A song is a platform and speaks volumes about one's characters or how they feel about situations. [B]If you don't stand for anything you fall for everything. It's important to call out misogynistic songs simply because if you don't it provides the leeway for ignorant people to push the boundaries even more. It's important and the fact you can't see that speaks volumes.

there's a difference between that and literally nitpicking, and searching for a problem, which is pretty much all I'm seeing here. At the end of the day music is entertainment and if youre not entertained, oh well.

Being American simply does not make one ignorant just like being from whatever island your from makes you somewhat superior in thought processes. I'm American so am I ignorant simply because of my nationality. The fact you made that glaring over generalization again speaks volumes about your own insecurities and biases than anyone else.

I meant that as a joke, but most Muricans I meant are ignorant as hell though.

And no one is denying their are other huge issues in the world, but if you refuse to clean up the mess that's HAPPENING INSIDE AMERICA. It just worsens the situations and increases racism, sexism & homophobia among other things. No one is stating that their isn't starving children or that we should donate to the homeless but that doesn't mean these issues that do affect me or many others should be ignored.

My n*igga, what I'm saying is, these so called "issues" that are being put forward are not issues at all.

And so are women in America and WORLDWIDE, many women in America don't come full force because of people so called "s.l.u.t. shaming". Let's take a look at this significant case that had to bring anonymous an organization in the middle of the controversy:

Steubenville High School rape case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben...hool_rape_case

The fact that these boys raped her and proceeded to go on social media and mock her is alarming and this happens in the same country where you say no one is oppressed. Did you read into this case and many others that stated the women where some what at fault, or the boy's shouldn't be punished as much?? Something tells me you have not.

I am fully aware of this case, what them kids did was disgusting tbh. This was maybe the one time I was like "YEAH!"

Well because men have a thing called privilege in a simple example a man can be accomplished and they won't mention anything about him being a good father.

N*gga what

Men can get away without being judged so harshly for their looks in this world, Men have the ability to sexually express themselves anyway (i'm talking the straight ones), without being called names.

N*gga what

. Damn have you read the news about so many women getting sexually harassed in the workplace and don't feel they have the power to say anything .

***** what

Umm no have you heard to catch a predator that show didn't go off air because they talked about wanting to hook up with minor girls. There are several specials on tv talking about this type of abuse, and it ranges also from their into plots of tv shows/movies.

I fail to see how this is relevant to anything.

No you do hate feminism as evidenced by this ridiculous rant.

The meaning of feminism:

The belief that women are and should be treated as potential intellectual equals and social equals to men.

I've yet to see any "feminist" follow this trait. So FOH with that.

This is probably the most ironic part of your entire long and unnecessary/unneeded rant the bold is too much I can't possibly take it. Your basically saying fight when we need to fight and when feminists and other organizations do that you have an issue with that. And judging from this post you don't know a thing about actual things called oppression. I think that covers my entire response

***** what?

You'll realize that like 80% of that list is irrelevant to what I was talking about. What does Mobb Deep have to do with anything? and yes there are bigger problems to deal with, than what people are bringing forward.