[Smartypants]

Originally posted by Costa

those colored iphones looks cheap as hell.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I also feel that the new iPhone 5C (if it does in fact come out) will greatly devalue the Apple brand.

[Costa]

Originally posted by Smartypants

I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I also feel that the new iPhone 5C (if it does in fact come out) will greatly devalue the Apple brand.

Yes thats exactly what im thinking too but i think they need to do it cuz alot of people are getting samsungs and stuff and before you know it Apple will get the BB effect.

[RastaMentality]

Originally posted by Smartypants

I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I also feel that the new iPhone 5C (if it does in fact come out) will greatly devalue the Apple brand.

How do you devalue a brand that isn't really established in certain places? Y'all will continue saying this until both lines continue being successful into next year and then you'll find some new psychic mess to say. This whole "devaluing" thing doesn't even make sense and never has. People said the same when the iPhone went to T-Mobile and Boost mobile because those are "cheaper" carriers yet it's still doing the same success

Apple sells phones for free in America and people regard them as free in their minds and those still haven't devalued their brand nor do people who buy the iPhone 4 get "made fun of" like a response to this will probably say

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Originally posted by RastaMentality

How do you devalue a brand that isn't really established in certain places? Y'all will continue saying this until both lines continue being successful into next year and then you'll find some new psychic mess to say. This whole "devaluing" thing doesn't even make sense and never has. People said the same when the iPhone went to T-Mobile and Boost mobile because those are "cheaper" carriers yet it's still doing the same success

People are just pressed because their iPhone feels ~special~ because some people think that iPhones are premium devices and now that they're getting a cheaper entry price, they'll make the whole group of iPhone owners look poor.



Meanwhile the Nokia Lumia series has a $79 (outright, off-contract!) entry price yet the Lumia 92x series still feels valuable as always.

[RastaMentality]

Originally posted by Save-Me-Oprah

People are just pressed because their iPhone feels ~special~ because some people think that iPhones are premium devices and now that they're getting a cheaper entry price, they'll make the whole group of iPhone owners look poor.



Meanwhile the Nokia Lumia series has a $79 (outright, off-contract!) entry price yet the Lumia 92x series still feels valuable as always.

But the iPhone has always had cheap entries in America for the past 3 years and it hasn't changed anything Those "cheaper" iPhones still sell a ton.

[Save-Me-Oprah]

Originally posted by RastaMentality

But the iPhone has always had cheap entries in America for the past 3 years and it hasn't changed anything Those "cheaper" iPhones still sell a ton.

Well, the iPhone line has never been marketed or even thought of as as "cheap" or "budget" until now.

People are just worried about their social status

[Costa]

If you think its cuz wer woried about our status..... LOL seriously. Its just an oppinion. I hate it when something is a success and they are gonna make a lowbudget version to make more money of it. Like whats the deal? Especially when the lowbudget is fugly too.

[H-I-M]

Originally posted by Costa

If you think its cuz wer woried about our status..... LOL seriously. Its just an oppinion. I hate it when something is a success and they are gonna make a lowbudget version to make more money of it. Like whats the deal? Especially when the lowbudget is fugly too.

But if you didn't buy your iphone for its "status", then why are you bothered by them releasing a cheaper version ?
I mean I couldn't have cared less when Samsung announced the S4 mini, cause I know it was a lessor version in every single ways.

[Kleine]

Cant wait for the 5s, i really need 32GB.

[RastaMentality]

Originally posted by H-I-M

But if you didn't buy your iphone for its "status", then why are you bothered by them releasing a cheaper version ?
I mean I couldn't have cared less when Samsung announced the S4 mini, cause I know it was a lessor version in every single ways.

Right. No one really cares in the end. I doubt anyone's walking around like a crack head worrying about their phone being devalued.

[itsnickcray]

Smartphones was for people with money back in the day (look at the old Blackberry bold etc) but times change. Brands like Apple need to step up their game and make phones for everyone.

Apple is fading and the reason for it is android. Android can do more stuff and you can get it for cheap. That's just the way it is... Blackberry did the same thing, but they came up with Curves, with some really bad build quality, which gave BlackBerry already gave a bad name, was too late with a new and fresh OS, so they missed the whole apps era.

Apple is doing fine for now, they can do everything with their os if they want to (unless BlackBerry back in the day) but the step to make cheap Iphones is kinda a must to keep on top.

[RastaMentality]

You say "Android" as if everyone who makes android devices are doing well. The only company doing really well is Samsung. LG and Sony Ericsson are doing decently well and HTC isn't in its best of times.

[itsnickcray]

Originally posted by RastaMentality

You say "Android" as if everyone who makes android devices are doing well. The only company doing really well is Samsung. LG and Sony Ericsson are doing decently well and HTC isn't in its best of times.

Well, in that case Samsung. Point stays the same

[missy]

The iPhone 5C will be interesting. General iPhone users are pretty oblivious when it comes to technology. Less ram/less hard drive space/lower quality screen will be mostly lost on them. They'll see a colourful iPhone that can play Temple Run, take pictures, send messages and answer phone calls. What happens when they start saying things like "wait, I paid (however much) extra for the iPhone 5 when the cheaper phone does the same thing? I paid for the housing?" That's going to be weird... furthermore, since they may not understand the purpose of RAM/processors (5C is rumored to have less, right?) if there IS a slowdown in performance or a noticeable lag and people start chit chatting about that, it won't help their brand very much... but I doubt that'll be too much of an issue. Can people just buy the cheaper iPhone, slap an unofficial iPhone 5 dupe housing on it and have the best parts of an iPhone with a cheaper price tag??

They're going to have to exclude something the iPhone 5 can do that the iPhone 5C won't be able to do in order to differentiate the low-offering with the mid-offering in a meaningful way for the random person (so - not via hardware specs). I feel like there is definitely something major the rumors are missing. That, or the price difference will be pretty small and the big, noticeable difference IS just the housing, haha.

Regardless, I'm very interested in how they're going to play this one. And I want them to start a trend for white-gold phones because it is beautiful.

[RastaMentality]

There's gonna be a difference obvs. We just don't know how big it'll be. Maybe like from the S4 to the S4 mini.

[Smartypants]

Whether you guys want to believe it or not, the iPhone used to be a status symbol. It used to be ", OH, YOU HAVE AN IPHONE?????" but now it's simply, "Oh, you have an iPhone". It's price point at $199 made it a phone of great status. The iPhone was the phone to have. But all of this changed when they released the 3GS (?) and they reduced the price of the 3 (?). Ever since this, people have been opting for the lower-cost options, making it increasingly harder to sell their latest models. In fact, I read an article a few weeks ago, and it stated that over half of the iPhones in use are the 4s and the 4S's. That's so different from years ago, when the latest model iPhone dominated their sales. The fact that anyone can get an iPhone for free has really devalued their brand, and it no longer makes the iPhone "the cool phone" anymore.

The iPhone 5C, or whatever they choose to call it will continue to devalue their brand.

[RastaMentality]

????????????? People are still buying them. Who cares? All flagships are $199. There's no facts to back this up. Of course the latest model wouldve been dominating sales since that was the only one they sold.

+ so what people are buying older iPhone models? It's still an iPhone and sales are still going up yearly during the holidays. Even if they only sold a $199 phone it still wouldn't be "the cool phone" to what you're saying so ???

[Smartypants]

Originally posted by RastaMentality

????????????? People are still buying them. Who cares? All flagships are $199. There's no facts to back this up. Of course the latest model wouldve been dominating sales since that was the only one they sold.

+ so what people are buying older iPhone models? It's still an iPhone and sales are still going up yearly during the holidays. Even if they only sold a $199 phone it still wouldn't be "the cool phone" to what you're saying so ???

What I'm saying is that it is becoming increasingly harder for Apple to sell their latest models, as the 4 and the 4S are selling just about as much as the 5 (look at the chart). The fact that almost everyone now has an iPhone has devalued the iPhone line, as it is no longer seen as an elusive status symbol.

[RastaMentality]

Originally posted by Smartypants

What I'm saying is that it is becoming increasingly harder for Apple to sell their latest models, as the 4 and the 4S are selling just about as much as the 5 (look at the chart). The fact that almost everyone now has an iPhone has devalued the iPhone line, as it is no longer seen as an elusive status symbol.

This devaluing thing still doesnt matter if theyre still selling well. End of.

[Smartypants]

Originally posted by RastaMentality

This devaluing thing still doesnt matter if theyre still selling well. End of.

Maybe you don't know much about business, but a devaluing of a brand is never a good thing. The reason why most people would love to have a Porsche or a Jaguar is not simply because they are good vehicles, but it is because of the image surrounding the brand image of the cars. And that's what keeps those brands selling. But eventually, if everyone were to attain a Jaguar, then the exclusivity factor of them would fall, no longer making them wanted by everyone. And that's what's going to happen to iPhones, especially if the 5C is released.