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Discussion: CB aware beating Rihanna is why he's famous & not his music
Member Since: 5/14/2012
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And one more thing: If Chris was, as he said, "cool and over it", he would drop the topic completely and move on from the subject in general and focus on improving his image and his music.
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Member Since: 9/1/2012
Posts: 2,748
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Originally posted by jomarr
Because ATRL is full of queens that you pinch them in their arm and that is called a 'death threat'.
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Rihanna then "turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand," says the paperwork. "He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand."
According to the notes taken by Detective De Shon Andrews, blood filled Rihanna's mouth. Brown, 19, allegedly told her, "I'm going to beat the s--- out of you when we get home. You wait and see!" Rihanna called her assistant and left a message saying, "I am on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there." The police notes say that prompted Brown to reply: "You just did the stupidest thing ever. Now I'm really going to kill you."
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This does not constitute a death threat to you? You dare compare this to a pinch on the arm?
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
Posts: 29,559
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I'm honestly disgusted by half the posts in here. How the **** can you act like Rihanna practically being bludgeoned to death is just "a mistake" or "exaggerated." Casual attitudes like that are exactly why so many women and children live in abusive households with no escape.
Chris has not even come close to being punished sufficiently, and to call what he did a simple "mistake" shows that he is NOT truly remorseful and hasn't changed. A man who beats a woman once will usually beat a woman again, and again, and again... and Chris has shown many times over the years that he is still violent. The fact that such vile scum could still be famous, loved, etc. makes me sick.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
How on earth was Chris competition to Usher when the last one went out of a successful album like "Confessions", success Brown wasn't even able to touch with his hit single "Forever" plus his horrible overall sales.
And I cannot believe he hasn't got over it yet and Rihanna did it long time ago.
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Because Rihanna became one of the world's biggest Pop stars, while this incident has nearly ruined his career 
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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The BeyHive the only stanbase defending him/taking shots at Rih, a mess 
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by BambiStar
Because Rihanna became one of the world's biggest Pop stars, while this incident has nearly ruined his career |
As it should be. In fact, he should have NO career because of the "incident." Only in a ****ed up society like ours could we let him get away with nearly murdering someone and only have to do some community service (which I heard he faked, no?) just because he's a celebrity.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
Posts: 7,065
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I'm not sure what frustrates me more:
That he said "mistake" as if it was messing up a pizza order
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That he's getting defensive over his actions, which were really really ****** of him.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by dyylannn
I'm honestly disgusted by half the posts in here. How the **** can you act like Rihanna practically being bludgeoned to death is just "a mistake" or "exaggerated." Casual attitudes like that are exactly why so many women and children live in abusive households with no escape.
Chris has not even come close to being punished sufficiently, and to call what he did a simple "mistake" shows that he is NOT truly remorseful and hasn't changed. A man who beats a woman once will usually beat a woman again, and again, and again... and Chris has shown many times over the years that he is still violent. The fact that such vile scum could still be famous, loved, etc. makes me sick.
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Pie-kun
This does not constitute a death threat to you? You dare compare this to a pinch on the arm?
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Drag him.
Chris is a disgusting piece of trash in my opinion. It is amusing how he confuses the word famous for infamous.
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Member Since: 3/11/2012
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
Posts: 8,569
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
It haunts him because he never learned from it.
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Truest words EVER spoken on the subject. Perfect.
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Member Since: 11/20/2011
Posts: 3,275
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
How on earth was Chris competition to Usher when the last one went out of a successful album like "Confessions", success Brown wasn't even able to touch with his hit single "Forever" plus his horrible overall sales.
And I cannot believe he hasn't got over it yet and Rihanna did it long time ago.
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Chris Brown was Usher's heir apparent before the incident. This cannot be denied. His debut album sold more than Usher's first album, and he built on that success with Exclusive. You can't talk about album sales without talking about market declines. Album sales in 2004 when Confessions came out weren't the same as in 2006. Back then, Chris Brown was the hot, young thing, doing back flips on stage while crooning. Meanwhile Usher was getting old and looking stiff compared to Chris. Confessions was kind of a phenomenon, and it didn't just happen overnight. Usher had like four albums before he got to that point. CB seemed to be headed along that route. No, his sales probably would've never matched Usher's, in the same sense that Gaga's album sales will probably never match Britney's, but CB was competition for Usher before the incident.
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Member Since: 4/13/2011
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Originally posted by Tsuko
It's ridiculous that he (and others) think him punching Rihanna made him famous. He was famous before then. He's less successful in the charts post-2009 than he was pre-2009.
I like Chris, but I feel like he WANTS to keep referencing the RIhanna incident. He's always subtly referring to it on Twitter, in interviews, in his songs, etc, as if he's always trying to remind people about it. It's annoying, he's lucky that the public have been quite forgiving of him, he should just completely put it behind him.
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He was famous before (a HUGE rising star, like Rihanna herself) but I think what annoys him is that ever SINCE the incident, that's what he's famous for. Like somebody said, it's kind of like he became infamous.
The only reason he is ever mentioned in popular culture seems to be as a violent, aggressive, Rihanna beating kind of reference.
And the sad thing is, Rihanna largely moved on by saturating her imagery with other interesting concepts and ideas. It was just too big a thing for him to recover from though, like it plagued him for the worse. To be honest I don't feel sorry for him though because his behaviour since 2009 has been consistently pathetic. He's such a brat.
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Member Since: 11/20/2011
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Originally posted by jomarr
This doesn't seem logical.
Chris was more famous than Rihanna back then. His chart positions were more consistent than Rihanna's. Chris Brown (his album) sold 3 Million worldwide as Music of the Sun sold a mere 1 million copies worldwide. Exclusive sold 4 Million copies as to A Girl Like Me's 2.5 Million. It was only until Umbrella when Rihanna leveled Chris' popularity. Before the inicident happened, both of them were the king and queen of music, they were the biggest acts back then but the incident happened. It killed both of their careers but Rihanna made her way back up because of the sympathy. Chris eventually made it's way back but not as huge as he was before. Rihanna is bigger than ever and that helped her career. Chris came back but not as big as he was before and definitely not bigger than Rihanna.
Don't make stupid comments, please. We can stop being delusional now.
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Anyway . . . If sympathy was selling Rihanna's albums, then Rated R would have had more commercial success. LOUD sales had nothing to do with sympathy and everything to do with Rih returning to the happier pop roots that made GGGB resonate with the GP. It's no coincidence that the album that didn't remind people of the incident (LOUD) sold more than the one devoted to the incident's aftermath (Rated R). Think about it. By your logic, Hard and Russian Roulette should’ve smashed harder in the US because of sympathy, right, but it was Rude Boy, the happiest single released off the album, that was the commercial smash in the US. Rih then followed that up with an album that had a bunch of tracks in the same vein as Rude Boy, and low and behold we got LOUD. None of that had anything to do with sympathy.
Rihanna also has a lot of qualities on her side that CB doesn’t. Women have been dominating the music scene for years now and Rihanna's a woman. Pop music is what's been selling for these past few years, and she's been considered a pop artist since GGGB. CB's considered mostly urban/ R&B which is on the wane. While CB is a better performer/dancer than Rih, he's not a better singer than she is. No matter how well CB can dance, opportunities to showcase that talent are few and far between. Meanwhile, Rihanna is ubiquitous and has been running radio with her hits for the past three or four years. Eversince GGGB, The GP is here for her in ways that they aren't for him that have nothing to do with sympathy. TUTM is arguably a much more radio friendly song than BC Remix, yet which one overshadowed the other?
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Member Since: 10/12/2002
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Originally posted by AllEyesOnCIARA
What did Rhianna do to get hit in the first place? where i live people get beat all the time for talking **** especially if you have no tolerance for it.
Who cares if Chris hit her years ago they are broken up and i'm sure his intent wasn't to ill but to shut her the hell up. I would never hit a girl for talking mess but uhm, did they even announce what she did to deserve to get hit or has it not been mentioned?
She forgave him for a reason, if she was hit and beaten up for no reason at all she would have never gotten back with him..
whatever she did or whatever the hell she said, she is accountable for her own actions.
usually i could care less since i dot care much for either of them.. but seriously blaming chris completely is stupid. like if i was to talk **** to someone irl i would be ready to fight.
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What kind of mess is this post... Like is this a joke?
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Member Since: 3/25/2011
Posts: 10,337
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I wouldn't exactly call it a "mistake" as much as it was a dangerous breakdown. But I do agree that people who to this day hang it over his head in order to feel superior and dog him down thinking they are being some type of domestic advocate are wrong.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
Posts: 9,429
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well if he wants to be known more for his music he needs to step it up quality wise, both Fame & Fortune were nothing but filler. He needs to take some responsibility he had success after the incident the reason he is falling on hard times is due to only himself. People like to forget Chris Brown was a lot bigger or on equal footing with rihanna back in the day, but his dumb ass actions that night and later overshadowed his blossoming career. He is the example of how one moment can truly haunt you but change your entire life not for the better.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 60,893
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Originally posted by AllEyesOnCIARA
What did Rhianna do to get hit in the first place? where i live people get beat all the time for talking **** especially if you have no tolerance for it.
Who cares if Chris hit her years ago they are broken up and i'm sure his intent wasn't to ill but to shut her the hell up. I would never hit a girl for talking mess but uhm, did they even announce what she did to deserve to get hit or has it not been mentioned?
She forgave him for a reason, if she was hit and beaten up for no reason at all she would have never gotten back with him..
whatever she did or whatever the hell she said, she is accountable for her own actions.
usually i could care less since i dot care much for either of them.. but seriously blaming chris completely is stupid. like if i was to talk **** to someone irl i would be ready to fight.
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I am screaming 
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
Posts: 9,429
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Originally posted by AllEyesOnCIARA
What did Rhianna do to get hit in the first place? where i live people get beat all the time for talking **** especially if you have no tolerance for it.
Who cares if Chris hit her years ago they are broken up and i'm sure his intent wasn't to ill but to shut her the hell up. I would never hit a girl for talking mess but uhm, did they even announce what she did to deserve to get hit or has it not been mentioned?
She forgave him for a reason, if she was hit and beaten up for no reason at all she would have never gotten back with him..
whatever she did or whatever the hell she said, she is accountable for her own actions.
usually i could care less since i dot care much for either of them.. but seriously blaming chris completely is stupid. like if i was to talk **** to someone irl i would be ready to fight.
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What kinda dumb ass logic you def are a product of your flawed environment you should be ashamed of this comment. Even if rihanna provoked someone or gave him a slap doesn't equate to her getting beaten so badly and left on the side of the road. And I would say the same thing if situations were truly reversed that night, both sexes shouldn't be putting hands on each other and especially in a relationship. Your whole approach to situations are not only dysfunctional but rarely ever solve problems that arise in tense situations. It may be a double standard but regardless if it was there or not I wouldn't beat rihanna like that because i'm better than that. Chile bye and good night with this
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
Posts: 15,562
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Originally posted by AllEyesOnCIARA
What did Rhianna do to get hit in the first place? where i live people get beat all the time for talking **** especially if you have no tolerance for it.
Who cares if Chris hit her years ago they are broken up and i'm sure his intent wasn't to ill but to shut her the hell up. I would never hit a girl for talking mess but uhm, did they even announce what she did to deserve to get hit or has it not been mentioned?
She forgave him for a reason, if she was hit and beaten up for no reason at all she would have never gotten back with him..
whatever she did or whatever the hell she said, she is accountable for her own actions.
usually i could care less since i dot care much for either of them.. but seriously blaming chris completely is stupid. like if i was to talk **** to someone irl i would be ready to fight.
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What ?
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