Album: Kelly Rowland - 'Talk a Good Game' - Page 44

Dereon

and at the end of the day Kelly is selling more album right now while Kelly had no mainstream hit this era or promotion like Ciara. That just speaks VOLUMES. NEXT. IRRELEVANT discussion. Cici needed 1000 singles to have a hit while basically any Kelly song this era has been a hit.

The CSQUAD members just got what they deserved. Such a big mouth for nothing. Ciara however doesn't deserve it, I am not a hater like y'all. However I would also hate if I knew the competition is the superior one. I mean talent-wise Kelly is just superior in every way possible. It's like comparing Britney to Mariah Carey.

Vindrag

STAY HUMBLE, indeed!

There's no reason for Ciara and Kelly Rowland fans to argue with eachother, they both do what we love and that is great R&B music and fierce looks and performances!

Both have releaed amazing albums! Stay humble everybody!

In fact, I would love for these two to collaborate in one way or another, really soon!

ThaInfo1

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Originally posted by Vindrag

STAY HUMBLE, indeed!

There's no reason for Ciara and Kelly Rowland fans to argue with eachother, they both do what we love and that is great R&B music and fierce looks and performances!

Both have releaed amazing albums! Stay humble everybody!

In fact, I would love for these two to collaborate in one way or another, really soon!

Say that, Vindrag bish (My Ukmix sistah)!!! Both put albums that will probably be my favorite R&B albums of the year.

CupidsSanity

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Originally posted by Dereon

and at the end of the day Kelly is selling more album right now while Kelly had no mainstream hit this era or promotion like Ciara. That just speaks VOLUMES. NEXT. IRRELEVANT discussion. Cici needed 1000 singles to have a hit while basically any Kelly song this era has been a hit.

The CSQUAD members just got what they deserved. Such a big mouth for nothing. Ciara however doesn't deserve it, I am not a hater like y'all. However I would also hate if I knew the competition is the superior one. I mean talent-wise Kelly is just superior in every way possible. It's like comparing Britney to Mariah Carey.

Oh "Dirty Laundry" is a hit? Kelly didn't have plenty of failed singles before and after "motivation"? Kelly performs better than ci now? Since when? .... Wait how many albums does kelly have sold throughout the span of her solo career? And ci has? You think kelly's album is going to outsell ci's this time around? .. Kelly has had a few shows.. That isn't promo? Just asking

Lol but to be honest what's the big fuss? Both of their first week sales aren't too far apart for one another...

Dylan'

The fact that Ciara who used to be so big is now comparable to Kelly who has never been one of the main girls says enough.

CupidsSanity

Dang I came in here to see how well Kelly's album was doing but yet I see my fav getting shaded all over the place. LAWD

CupidsSanity

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Originally posted by DillonATRL

The fact that Ciara who used to be so big is now comparable to Kelly who has never been one of the main girls says enough.

The fact that r&b artist are struggling to go gold says more. All bs aside both ci and kelly are doing a great job. And Kelly (during dc) was a lot bigger than ci has ever been.

J-esper

can we put teh topic to rest now and focus on the actual topic again

Dereon

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Originally posted by CupidsSanity

Oh "Dirty Laundry" is a hit? Kelly didn't have plenty of failed singles before and after "motivation"? Kelly performs better than ci now? Since when? .... Wait how many albums does kelly have sold throughout the span of her solo career? And ci has? You think kelly's album is going to outsell ci's this time around? .. Kelly has had a few shows.. That isn't promo? Just asking

Lol but to be honest what's the big fuss? Both of their first week sales aren't too far apart for one another...

Kelly has definitely made more impact on urban radio this year.

ICE #7 urban radio
Kisses Down Low #10
Dirty Laundry #15 (so far with no video)

Neva End #4
Representin' #12
Without Me #10

She is the most played female urban artist along with Rihanna on urban radio. Ciara only did well with Body Party, the rest were flops.

Kelly has already outsold her album based on the first week sales alone. Let's not speak about how much album she sold cause she was a part of DC3 so that is a massive amount.

I however say that you are as good as your last album.

Dereon

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Originally posted by J-esper

can we put teh topic to rest now and focus on the actual topic again

I was silent before Ciara's album release, they were shading Kelly like hell and look now.. You are not gonna shade someone who is in fact selling more albums than your own idol. So.

Dereon

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Originally posted by DillonATRL

The fact that Ciara who used to be so big is now comparable to Kelly who has never been one of the main girls says enough.

That just means that Kelly's star power is GROWING while Ciara's is decreasing day by day. Your as good as your last album.

J-esper

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Originally posted by Dereon

I was silent before Ciara's album release, they were shading Kelly like hell and look now.. You are not gonna shade someone who is in fact selling more albums than your own idol. So.

I know, I wasn't really talking to you, more like the people who repeated the same thing as was said on the last page, it mainly is a circle.

Marvin

First week sales mean nothing if you don't have longevity afterwards.

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Originally posted by Dereon

and at the end of the day Kelly is selling more album right now while Kelly had no mainstream hit this era or promotion like Ciara. That just speaks VOLUMES. NEXT. IRRELEVANT discussion. Cici needed 1000 singles to have a hit while basically any Kelly song this era has been a hit.

The CSQUAD members just got what they deserved. Such a big mouth for nothing. Ciara however doesn't deserve it, I am not a hater like y'all. However I would also hate if I knew the competition is the superior one. I mean talent-wise Kelly is just superior in every way possible. It's like comparing Britney to Mariah Carey.

It really says nothing. Ciara's album was under-shipped while Kelly's wasn't. A BUNCH of people said her album was sold out and one Target employee even said they only had one case of Ci's album. Sorry and Got Me Good aren't on this album so they mean nothing. They did absolutely nothing for the Ciara era.

Also,

Did you forget that dancing, performing, and having great stage-presence are all talents?

Ciara is definitely better than Kelly in all of those. Her being better at singing is arguable since everyone has different opinions on tone and such.

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Originally posted by Dereon

Kelly has definitely made more impact on urban radio this year.

ICE #7 urban radio
Kisses Down Low #10
Dirty Laundry #15 (so far with no video)

Neva End #4
Representin' #12
Without Me #10

She is the most played female urban artist along with Rihanna on urban radio. Ciara only did well with Body Party, the rest were flops.

Kelly has already outsold her album based on the first week sales alone. Let's not speak about how much album she sold cause she was a part of DC3 so that is a massive amount.

I however say that you are as good as your last album.

Impact on urban radio is nice (Body Party was #1 for 17 days), but that's not the only way to measure success. Let's look at the Hot 100, shall we?

Ice #88
Kisses Down Low #72
Dirty Laundry hasn't charted
Representin' #97
Mama Told Me hasn't charted
Neva End #52
Without Me #74

compared to

Body Party #25
I'm Out #50

I mean

This says SOMETHING. Btw, those album sales aren't final so Kelly hasn't outsold Ci just yet.

gio88

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Originally posted by Marvin

First week sales mean nothing if you don't have longevity afterwards.

It really says nothing. Ciara's album was under-shipped while Kelly's wasn't. A BUNCH of people said her album was sold out and one Target employee even said they only had one case of Ci's album. Sorry and Got Me Good aren't on this album so they mean nothing. They did absolutely nothing for the Ciara era.

Also, Did you forget that dancing, performing, and having great stage-presence are all talents? Ciara is definitely better than Kelly in all of those. Her being better at singing is arguable since everyone has different opinions on tone and such.

Impact on urban radio is nice (Body Party was #1 for 17 days), but that's not the only way to measure success. Let's look at the Hot 100, shall we?

Ice #88
Kisses Down Low #72
Dirty Laundry hasn't charted
Representin' #97
Mama Told Me hasn't charted
Neva End #52
Without Me #74

compared to

Body Party #25
I'm Out #50

I mean

This says SOMETHING. Btw, those album sales aren't final so Kelly hasn't outsold Ci just yet.

I don't want to do controversy
but it's easy when you count just 2 singles from ciara and 8 single from kelly. I f you see ciara singles you 'll notice that

gimme dat hasn't charted
sorry hasn't charted

and before that

speechless hasn't charted
ride 42
ecc...

and big DIFFERENCE CIARA promoted on tv both Gimme dat and Sorry , Kelly just performed Kdl one time in a midley with motivation and street life. Kelly NEVER performed Ice , dirty laundry , representin , Mama told me or without me

and before that
kelly is way better than Ciara vocally , that's a fact , ciara is a better dancer , even if even kelly is a great dancer (when actually dance) too...I don't understand all this debate but if you say things you should be objective .After years I stil "accept" to see beyonce fan mocking kelly because they CAN (it's beyonce!), but I seriously don't understand why ciara fans come here to make fun of kelly career considering that ciara is at her same level or even below!

Kiddo.

Is this debate still going on?

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TAGG (album): #161 on iTunes

J-esper

Let's get back on topic. What do you think teh enxt single will be, i think they will either go for Gone or Street Life. I hope that after the XFactor she will release the song with B and Michelle, since that song has enough to chart on it's own. If they either get all girls together fr a video or come with some good lyricvideo that could be played on TV!

gio88

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Originally posted by J-esper

Let's get back on topic. What do you think teh enxt single will be, i think they will either go for Gone or Street Life. I hope that after the XFactor she will release the song with B and Michelle, since that song has enough to chart on it's own. If they either get all girls together fr a video or come with some good lyricvideo that could be played on TV!

I've just realized that DL release on rhytmic radios has been pushed back again to JULY 30 , her managment is CRAZY! now i know for sure Dirty laundry is a FLOP , 2 months and a hald to sent to rhytmic , 2 month to have a video , not promoted.(when she could) it's a DISASTER , right now this era seems DEAD to me i don't see any efforts to maintain album and singles on the charts, everything with this single is wrong , form the risky choice , the handling everything...why kelly are you continuing with this managment?

gio88

i won't be surprised if there won't be a third single....

J-esper

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Originally posted by gio88

i won't be surprised if there won't be a third single....

I think they wanna push one other song, which she could use through the XFactor platform, btu sadly yeah, this era is pretty dead atm

Marvin

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Originally posted by gio88

I don't want to do controversy
but it's easy when you count just 2 singles from ciara and 8 single from kelly. I f you see ciara singles you 'll notice that

gimme dat hasn't charted
sorry hasn't charted

and before that

speechless hasn't charted
ride 42
ecc...

and big DIFFERENCE CIARA promoted on tv both Gimme dat and Sorry , Kelly just performed Kdl one time in a midley with motivation and street life. Kelly NEVER performed Ice , dirty laundry , representin , Mama told me or without me

and before that
kelly is way better than Ciara vocally , that's a fact , ciara is a better dancer , even if even kelly is a great dancer (when actually dance) too...I don't understand all this debate but if you say things you should be objective .After years I stil "accept" to see beyonce fan mocking kelly because they CAN (it's beyonce!), but I seriously don't understand why ciara fans come here to make fun of kelly career considering that ciara is at her same level or even below!

Gimmie Dat is from her last album. I included singles that she was featured on during this era. I could include singles from her last album but I won't.

Kelly didn't perform her singles on TV but that was her choice. She chose to perform random songs instead of promoting her singles. You're acting like she didn't promote.

And I've never seen Kelly dance unless it was in a sexual way.

Kelly could've been just as big as Beyonce seeing as how they both in one of the biggest girl groups of all time but somewhere along the line she (or her label) dropped the ball. For her to go from easily selling over 100k each album with Destiny's Child to never doing it solo is shocking.

Ciara's always been bigger than Kelly tbh. Google doesn't lie.

I like Kelly but some of you are acting like she's this huge star while Ciara is just a local flop. That's just not true.