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Discussion: Is it safe to say Frank Ocean is the new prince of R&B?
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personal opinions on their music doesn't count 
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
Girl. Both their sales are a mess. Him selling an extra 70k+ is not that big of a difference? and dead at "all the promo" when Chris dropped Fortune, tweeted "buymyshit"and announced a new album one month later. Frank shows up at every award show, gets overhyped to the heavens, goes on stage, sound a mess and sell a few extra copies the next week. Wasn't he even at the Brits? mess. and I'm certain Fortune outsold it on a WW scale.
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Anyway, Miguel >>
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I'm sure Fortune outsold CO on a WW scale. Fortune had better charts than CO(thus, leading to better sales in the majority of the countries it charted in compared to CO)
The only certifications I see for CO is gold in the US, UK, Australia, and Denmark, which adds up to 645,000 sales....i'm almost positive Fortune outsold it
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
And you were saying?
And just because you like "unique" artists doesn't mean you're some music connoisseur. Now go and stan for a Pitchfork-loved album.
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Doesn't change the fact that you yourself repeated that same line at least 3-4 times.
And I didn't even know what Pitchfork was when I was loving that album, so your point is invalid again.
You've got this blind hate towards him and it clouds your judgement.
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Originally posted by Genocide
It's valid to my point  Frank's material isn't anything special, especially to be crowned as the prince of R&B. |
Frank's material isn't anything special? 
We're not discussing personal opinions on their music.
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Member Since: 5/15/2012
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
Girl. Both their sales are a mess. Him selling an extra 70k+ is not that big of a difference? and dead at "all the promo" when Chris dropped Fortune, tweeted "buymyshit"and announced a new album one month later. Frank shows up at every award show, gets overhyped to the heavens, goes on stage, sound a mess and sell a few extra copies the next week. Wasn't he even at the Brits? mess. and I'm certain Fortune outsold it on a WW scale.
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Anyway, Miguel >>
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Frank only performed at the VMAs & Grammys and Fortune has not outsold Channel Orange WW 
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Originally posted by Brando
His album didn't get a bump.
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After the Grammys
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-- 37 MIGUEL RCA 18,040 --
KALEIDOSCOPE DREAM
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47 45 FRANK OCEAN DEF JAM/IDJ 16,018 +49%
CHANNEL ORANGE
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No televised wins, a one-minute performance, etc. etc.
Miguel has been outselling Frank ever since. Ki
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Member Since: 5/3/2012
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Nope. R. Kelly is the King Of R&B (listen to I'm a Flirt), and Chris Brown remains the Prince.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by jomarr
LOL Frank had better album sales but that's not saying much
and AGAIN, Channel Orange isn't pure R&B so that voids him thee TITLE
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Originally posted by BeyOcean
Frank only performed at the VMAs & Grammys and Fortune has not outsold Channel Orange WW |
If he did, I'm sure it's not by a lot. It doesn't matter what way you twist it, both their sales are awful and don't give me the "Frank is new" thing because with the hype that follows him everywhere he shows up on a red carpet (being most tweeted about etc), He should at least be nearing Platinum by now. He's nobody's prince of anything. I guess it's all talk.
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Frank's material isn't anything special?
We're not discussing personal opinions on their music. |
we weren't discussing Frank's sales to other artists either, but clearly things have changed in this thread 
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
After the Grammys
No televised wins, a one-minute performance, etc. etc.
Miguel has been outselling Frank ever since. Ki
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#37 with 18k sales is a bump now? ok.
A bump is Mumford & Sons going #1 after the Grammys.
Migues didn't break out anywhere after the Grammys. That Billboard cover proves nothing.
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
After the Grammys
No televised wins, a one-minute performance, etc. etc.
Miguel has been outselling Frank ever since. Ki
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But Channel Orange still outpeaked and outsold Kaleidoscope Dream
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
After the Grammys
No televised wins, a one-minute performance, etc. etc.
Miguel has been outselling Frank ever since. Ki
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How is he outselling frank? Frank has over half a mill in sales in just America... we wont get into in europe. But Miguel cant sell 300k in America...
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No one is currently. But I think Miguel will last longer
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
After the Grammys
No televised wins, a one-minute performance, etc. etc.
Miguel has been outselling Frank ever since. Ki
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All that doesn't matter if she still can't see a certification. Ki.
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Miguel, Frank, and The Weeknd are ALL not doing "pure R&B" so I have no idea where the hell you guys are trying to go with that argument. 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Brando
#37 with 18k sales is a bump now? ok.
A bump is Mumford & Sons going #1 after the Grammys.
Migues didn't break out anywhere after the Grammys. That Billboard cover proves nothing.
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You're comparing an album of the year WINNER to someone who had only a one-minute performance and no televised wins. Thanks for making my point by not addressing Miguel coming out on top over Frank. Shall I pull out Frank's position last week and compare to Miguel's?
Miguel >>>> Frank. People are finally realizing this.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Butters
But Channel Orange still outpeaked and outsold Kaleidoscope Dream |
Outpeaked, outsold, got more certifications, got more acclaim, got a better selling song, is better known. The list is endless. If anyone is a contender for the title, it's certainly not Miguel when Frank is miles ahead of him in practically everything.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Genocide
I'm sure Fortune outsold CO on a WW scale. Fortune had better charts than CO(thus, leading to better sales in the majority of the countries it charted in compared to CO)
The only certifications I see for CO is gold in the US, UK, Australia, and Denmark, which adds up to 645,000 sales....i'm almost positive Fortune outsold it
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No shade, but you cant count.
Fortune flopped world wide. Channel Orange outsold Fortune in america by 100k, in the UKby 20k. Nobody bought Fortune, they did however download the singles.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
You're comparing an album of the year WINNER to someone who had only a one-minute performance and no televised wins. Thanks for making my point by not addressing Miguel coming out on top over Frank. Shall I pull out Frank's position last week and compare to Miguel's?
Miguel >>>> Frank. People are finally realizing this.
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You ain't a lie. 
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