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Fan Base: Archived: Kelly Clarkson (#1)
Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
I think she did that because of the Halo similarity though....
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Another reason why I don't fancy Tedder.
But I CANNAWT wait for the BOY 2.0s from her next album. It's astonishing that BOY was her last slow/piano ballad single...
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Member Since: 5/5/2011
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Dark Side is another great example... I'm thinking that if Dark Side was the lead single it would've smashed. The lead single exposure and all the promos.
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Originally posted by Mhs90
Me too but he auto tuned the crap out of her in that song so it didn't seem like she was yelling over the loud bangs and clash. No wonder she does a totally different, stripped rendition now, and I bet if she studio-ed it, it would have been a BOY 2.0
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He made her voice sound so angelic tho. I know Kelly likes sounding live in her studio recordings but there is nothing wrong with adding some texture to it once and a while 
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Originally posted by rivers
He made her voice sound so angelic tho. I know Kelly likes sounding live in her studio recordings but there is nothing wrong with adding some texture to it once and a while |
I completely agree.
People who overused autotune, made autotune a bad thing. I honestly prefer Kelly's voice with autotune than without it sometimes. The rawness of My December was heaven, but I would've liked Stronger a lot more if it had some/more autotune on it.
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Originally posted by Ryan
Except she did change her sound, draw on different genres amd explore different themes.  |
She changed her sound ONCE. And that was the transformation from R&B (thankful) to Pop/rock (Breakaway). Yes, she has some experimental songs on All I Ever Wanted but the majority is still pure pop/rock.
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
Dark Side is another great example... I'm thinking that if Dark Side was the lead single it would've smashed. The lead single exposure and all the promos.
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It's like we're twins 
Not only would it have been perfect timing during the fall, but the theme transition from DS--Stronger would have been flawless.
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Originally posted by Ryan
So in essence you want her to strip away her originality and make generic pop music? No thanks. |
Writing with A list writers, thinking outside the box and sticking to one genre doesn't make you generic. Ever heard of 21? Or 4 for that matter? And I would hardly call Kelly original. Being basic doesn't make you original, it makes you predictable.
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Originally posted by Mhs90
It's like we're twins
Not only would it have been perfect timing during the fall, but the theme transition from DS--Stronger would have been flawless. |
It would've been a amazing one-two punch
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Originally posted by Ryan
Except she did change her sound, draw on different genres amd explore different themes. |
I don't remember saying that, but if she wanted to stick with pop-rock..there's a lot more she can do with it than SUBG 4.0s.. Im not saying she completely stayed in pop-rock comfort zone, but I feel like she has only taken BABY STEPS into R&B or alternative rock ..
You don't have to change your sound to take risks.
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Drag them Ryan. 
Stronger>>>>
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I just want some love songs for this next album 
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I'm been so absent from the base the last few days.
Stronger is a meh album with a few highlights (Stonger, Dark Side, You Love Me, TWIO, and a few others). 
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Originally posted by Ryan
So what? She makes pop/rock. It's a multi-genre. Stronger, Dark Side, MKIA, Hello, Honestly, BYOH, SIFOY, IFY, etc. sounds nothing like SUBG or BTH or anything else on Breakaway.
Kelly doesnt need to switch to dance pop or urban or anything else. She pulls elements from other genres (like on Stronger, CMB, Dark Side) and makes it work for her sound. Why does she have to change?
She's not recreating Breakaway. She never will and honestly why should she? She doesnt need BOY 2.0. She shouldnt repeat herself or try to make sequels. She's original. She tries new things. That should be enough.
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You're right. She doesn't need to recreate anything nor does she need to change the genre of her music if she doesn't want to. But the "sound" is becoming a bit predictable (at least to me and non-stans). There's much more pop-rock Kelly has yet to touch
She does pull sounds from other genres, but she needs to pull harder because the pop-rock drowns it. I'm only getting hints of different genres. Sorry
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Originally posted by Ryan
So what? She makes pop/rock. It's a multi-genre. Stronger, Dark Side, MKIA, Hello, Honestly, BYOH, SIFOY, IFY, etc. sounds nothing like SUBG or BTH or anything else on Breakaway.
Kelly doesnt need to switch to dance pop or urban or anything else. She pulls elements from other genres (like on Stronger, CMB, Dark Side) and makes it work for her sound. Why does she have to change?
She's not recreating Breakaway. She never will and honestly why should she? She doesnt need BOY 2.0. She shouldnt repeat herself or try to make sequels. She's original. She tries new things. That should be enough.
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Since u Been Gone = My Life Would Suck = I Forgive You
Behind These Hazel Eyes = Don't Let Me Stop You = Let Me Down
I never said Kelly need to completely changed her sound or style. I just said I want her to think outside the box and release a cohesive album, with a specific theme like My December without the wordy lyrics, with A list writers and producers and some sort of sound of production that isn't that similar to her previous records.
Dark Side, Already Gone, If I Can't Have You and Tip of my tongue is stepping outside the box for Kelly. Stronger, Suck, Hook Up, IFY, Let Me Down and the majority of the Stronger album isn't.
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Originally posted by Ryan
21 was pop music with elements of soul, r&b and rock. Let's not act like it was some genre defining piece of art.
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It is cohesive, co-written by A listers and is different than the other pop girls.
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Originally posted by Ryan
4 was a return to the music Beyonce started out making when she was in DC. Beyonce as a solo star made pop music with r&b/urban/soul influences. 4 was an old-school r&b/soul album.
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It is cohesive, co-written by A listers and is different than the other pop girls. I like the album more than Stronger and I loathe Beyoncé.
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Originally posted by Ryan
Many people chose to work with A-list writers because they cant write hits on their own. Kelly can. That doesnt mean she cant collaborate, but she chose to work with lessor known writers/producers bc didnt want to make music that sounded like everyone else.
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That's just a dumb thing to say. A lot of the biggest hits are written by more than one person. And let's not act like Kelly is the best writer out there, cause she's far from being the best writer.
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Originally posted by Ryan
And wow some stan you are calling Kelly "basic." Wow...
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And some delusional stan thinking Kelly isn't basic. Kelly is currently the image of simplicity. Since the My December era, Kelly has been nothing but basic.
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
And some delusional stan thinking Kelly isn't basic. Kelly is currently the image of simplicity. Since the My December era, Kelly has been nothing but basic.
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My question to people who always seem to drag Kelly is if she's so drag-worthy to you, why are you still a stan? 
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Originally posted by KellBell
My question to people who always seem to drag Kelly is if she's so drag-worthy to you, why are you still a stan? |
Maybe I wouldn't call Kelly basic, but other than that I don't see any dragging going on. Different fans want to see different directions. I wouldn't be here if it was all about who can compliment Kelly the best.
And It's better than being a delusional stan. I'm grateful this stanbase isn't like Katy's or Beyonce's that just cums over every little thing their Queen does from releasing generic radio-catered songs to releasing a $hit in the toilet.
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The people who call Kelly basic only compare her singles to each other. Her discography as a whole has changed and developed
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