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Discussion: Why is Gaga bigger than Beyonce worldwide?
Member Since: 3/31/2012
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It's okay gorls, your fave might headline the Super Bowl & grab a 50 Million Deal, one day.
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Still,
Shakira ain't BLACK.
Mariah ain't that global.
Prince isn't as global as Michael or Whitney.
Tina made mainly pop/rock music.
Donna and DIANA didn't see as much success as Michael or Whitney.
No one is saying that race is the main reason why. Gaga, as an image and entertainer, is just more appealing to an international base than Beyoncé.
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And yet she is consistently either first (Asia), 2nd, or 3rd when it comes to album sales in all 7 continents. The only women who you will ever routinely see having higher sales in certain places are Madonna and Celine. And the only woman with more top 10's globally than her is Madonna.
CloseMyEyes said a few days ago that Mariah's success is really underrated on here and he did not lie. A mess @ her having 33 songs charting WW rn after almost 23 years. Guess how many girls, past and present, have that many?
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All I Want for Christmas Is You
#3 Estonia
#3 Greece
#9 Spain
#10 Denmark
#10 Poland
#11 Portugal
#12 Slovakia
#13 Hungary
#14 Norway
#15 United States
#15 Germany
#16 Philippines
#18 Ireland
#18 Italy
#18 Sweden
#20 United Kingdom
#21 Austria
#22 Czech Republic
#26 Switzerland
#27 Latvia
#30 Belgium
#32 Bulgaria
#32 New Zealand
#34 Austria
#38 Netherlands
#40 Lithuania
#46 Finland
#47 El Salvador
#52 Luxembourg
#54 Australia
#56 Canada
#61 Cyprus
#66 Hong Kong
#72 Cyprus
#72 Dominican Republic
#83 Slovenia
#86 France
#93 Colombia
#94 El Salvador
#95 Malta
#103 Singapore
#105 Lebanon
#109 Peru
#110 Italy
#110 Philippines
#121 Singapore
#131 Japan
#131 Netherlands
#137 Cyprus
#141 Canada
#157 Guatemala
#161 Canada
#161 Finland
#163 Norway
#169 Malaysia
#175 Malta
#178 Romania
#189 Hong Kong
#191 Malta
#197 Netherlands
#220 Taiwan
#225 Indonesia
#242 Sri Lanka
#244 Panama
#249 Mexico
#255 United Arab Emirates
#272 Nigeria
When You Believe
#25 Ukraine
#44 Vietnam
#52 United Arab Emirates
#67 Indonesia
#98 Saudi Arabia
#107 Trinidad and Tobago
#134 Bermuda
#167 Nigeria
#231 Egypt
#321 Israel
#378 Malaysia
My All
#7 Saudi Arabia
#29 United Arab Emirates
#73 Kazakhstan
#113 Ukraine
#252 Nigeria
Hero
#19 Saudi Arabia
#57 United Arab Emirates
#70 Nigeria
#247 Indonesia
#383 Malaysia
Without You
#9 Saudi Arabia
#89 United Arab Emirates
#139 Ukraine
#307 Bolivia
One Sweet Day
#47 Bermuda
#88 Trinidad and Tobago
#123 United Arab Emirates
#214 Saudi Arabia
#261 Cyprus
Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
#125 Slovakia
#141 Guatemala
#174 Spain
#270 New Zealand
#299 Italy
#311 Netherlands
#373 Hungary
#388 Ireland
All I Want for Christmas Is You - Extra Festive
#37 Japan
Always Be My Baby
#101 United Arab Emirates
#124 Nigeria
#164 Saudi Arabia
I Want to Know What Love Is
#68 Nigeria
#377 Portugal
Oh Santa
#75 Bermuda
Honey
#135 Nigeria
#136 United Arab Emirates
O Holy Night
#140 Latvia
#172 New Zealand
#268 Norway
We Belong Together
#101 Nigeria
#367 Barbados
Sweetheart
#120 Ukraine
#267 United Arab Emirates
I'll Be There
#144 United Arab Emirates
#277 Bermuda
Dreamlover
#150 Nigeria
#358 United Arab Emirates
Whenever You Call
#241 United Arab Emirates
#278 Nigeria
#356 Saudi Arabia
Circles
#290 Bermuda
#365 Barbados
Christmas
#187 United States
Can't Let Go
#216 United Arab Emirates
Love Takes Time
#223 Egypt
Joy to the World
#244 El Salvador
Against All Odds
#279 Indonesia
The First Noel / Born Is the King
#285 Indonesia
Mine Again
#291 Bermuda
I Still Believe
#315 United Arab Emirates
Triumphant
#317 Cambodia
Obsessed
#345 Barbados
Touch My Body
#359 Nigeria
Fly Like a Bird
#363 Barbados
I Wish You Knew
#364 Barbados
Stay the Night
#366 Barbados
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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But Gaga is Booking Stadiums in The whole world including in Africa, Asia, Latin America etc.
Not only white people like her.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Not the SAME ATRLers who are QUICK to call Beyonce/Rihanna/Nicki "ghetto" or pull out the stale bleaching jokes. Trying to play Ghandi and Complaining about the "black people always pull the race card".
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Member Since: 10/25/2010
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Wait what was that? R people really comparing Single ladies to BTW?  likee....chilllll
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Member Since: 4/12/2011
Posts: 6,718
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Quote:
Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
And yet she is consistently either first (Asia), 2nd, or 3rd when it comes to album sales in all 7 continents. The only women who you will ever routinely see having higher sales in certain places are Madonna and Celine. And the only woman with more top 10's globally than her is Madonna.
CloseMyEyes said a few days ago that Mariah's success is really underrated on here and he did not lie. A mess @ her having 33 songs charting WW rn after almost 23 years. Guess how many girls, past and present, have that many?
All I Want for Christmas Is You
#3 Estonia
#3 Greece
#9 Spain
#10 Denmark
#10 Poland
#11 Portugal
#12 Slovakia
#13 Hungary
#14 Norway
#15 United States
#15 Germany
#16 Philippines
#18 Ireland
#18 Italy
#18 Sweden
#20 United Kingdom
#21 Austria
#22 Czech Republic
#26 Switzerland
#27 Latvia
#30 Belgium
#32 Bulgaria
#32 New Zealand
#34 Austria
#38 Netherlands
#40 Lithuania
#46 Finland
#47 El Salvador
#52 Luxembourg
#54 Australia
#56 Canada
#61 Cyprus
#66 Hong Kong
#72 Cyprus
#72 Dominican Republic
#83 Slovenia
#86 France
#93 Colombia
#94 El Salvador
#95 Malta
#103 Singapore
#105 Lebanon
#109 Peru
#110 Italy
#110 Philippines
#121 Singapore
#131 Japan
#131 Netherlands
#137 Cyprus
#141 Canada
#157 Guatemala
#161 Canada
#161 Finland
#163 Norway
#169 Malaysia
#175 Malta
#178 Romania
#189 Hong Kong
#191 Malta
#197 Netherlands
#220 Taiwan
#225 Indonesia
#242 Sri Lanka
#244 Panama
#249 Mexico
#255 United Arab Emirates
#272 Nigeria
When You Believe
#25 Ukraine
#44 Vietnam
#52 United Arab Emirates
#67 Indonesia
#98 Saudi Arabia
#107 Trinidad and Tobago
#134 Bermuda
#167 Nigeria
#231 Egypt
#321 Israel
#378 Malaysia
My All
#7 Saudi Arabia
#29 United Arab Emirates
#73 Kazakhstan
#113 Ukraine
#252 Nigeria
Hero
#19 Saudi Arabia
#57 United Arab Emirates
#70 Nigeria
#247 Indonesia
#383 Malaysia
Without You
#9 Saudi Arabia
#89 United Arab Emirates
#139 Ukraine
#307 Bolivia
One Sweet Day
#47 Bermuda
#88 Trinidad and Tobago
#123 United Arab Emirates
#214 Saudi Arabia
#261 Cyprus
Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town
#125 Slovakia
#141 Guatemala
#174 Spain
#270 New Zealand
#299 Italy
#311 Netherlands
#373 Hungary
#388 Ireland
All I Want for Christmas Is You - Extra Festive
#37 Japan
Always Be My Baby
#101 United Arab Emirates
#124 Nigeria
#164 Saudi Arabia
I Want to Know What Love Is
#68 Nigeria
#377 Portugal
Oh Santa
#75 Bermuda
Honey
#135 Nigeria
#136 United Arab Emirates
O Holy Night
#140 Latvia
#172 New Zealand
#268 Norway
We Belong Together
#101 Nigeria
#367 Barbados
Sweetheart
#120 Ukraine
#267 United Arab Emirates
I'll Be There
#144 United Arab Emirates
#277 Bermuda
Dreamlover
#150 Nigeria
#358 United Arab Emirates
Whenever You Call
#241 United Arab Emirates
#278 Nigeria
#356 Saudi Arabia
Circles
#290 Bermuda
#365 Barbados
Christmas
#187 United States
Can't Let Go
#216 United Arab Emirates
Love Takes Time
#223 Egypt
Joy to the World
#244 El Salvador
Against All Odds
#279 Indonesia
The First Noel / Born Is the King
#285 Indonesia
Mine Again
#291 Bermuda
I Still Believe
#315 United Arab Emirates
Triumphant
#317 Cambodia
Obsessed
#345 Barbados
Touch My Body
#359 Nigeria
Fly Like a Bird
#363 Barbados
I Wish You Knew
#364 Barbados
Stay the Night
#366 Barbados
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rihannito
Beyonce Is one of the best vocalists of ALL TIME, SINGS and DANCES LIKE NO OTHER, micheal was a BEAST as a dancer, but his singing was OK, Beyonce DOES IT ALL PERFECTLY! dont even try to go there! oh, and beyonce wrote some of her stuff as well.
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Whitney and Mariah have more vocal talent than her. Janet and Jennifer dance better than her. She's great, but she's not the best. Thanks for ignoring the part where I said Gaga is a better writer and more musically talented than her. Two important criteria to consider.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How is being white more relatable to people?  |
-Light skin
-Long, flowing straight hair
-European facial features
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Society has always made these things out to be the standard of beauty. This is COMMON knowledge, and that is why Gaga's image, a white woman with long blonde hair and obvious european features would be more relatable to people, especially worldwide.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How is being white more relatable to people? |
ddd
Girl if you don't stop this "All people are treated equal" act and come back to reality. 
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by PULSE.
It's okay gorls, your fave might headline the Super Bowl & grab a 50 Million Deal, one day.
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I think she's just fine! She grabbed a $100 million deal with LiveNation and is performing on a 6 CONTINENT tour.
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by PULSE.
It's okay gorls, your fave might headline the Super Bowl & grab a 50 Million Deal, one day.
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They remain obsessed with the King.
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Member Since: 10/25/2010
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How is being white more relatable to people? |
Because most people r white
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Drais.
-Light skin
-Long, flowing straight hair
-European facial features
etc
Society has always made these things out to be the standard of beauty. This is COMMON knowledge, and that is why Gaga's image, a white woman with long blonde hair and obvious european features would be more relatable to people, especially worldwide. |
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
ddd
Girl if you don't stop this "All people are treated equal" act and come back to reality. |
I realize this but white people aren't even the majority of the world. 
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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because she is white & she is strictly dance-pop. she isnt doing a non-mainstream genre like rock, Adult Contemporary, r&b, or blues when truthfully those alternative genres actually fit her voice and style more TBH
a black avante-garde freak would never have this much success and fame
edit: i guess you can make a case for prince. maybe.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Anyway Musically Bey doesn't really cater heavily to the pop scene
bar a few songs here and there, but even most of those songs a still rooted in R&B.
Give my sis a few synth beats and we'll see what happens.
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Member Since: 11/16/2010
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It's just her image. Nothing more because when it comes to talent Beyonce is miles ahead of gaga.
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by Rihannito
Because most people r white |
No, White Europeans are not the majority, Asians are. Take your US cap off please.
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Originally posted by Rihannito
Because most people r white |
Most people in the world are white? If you mean that, it's not true.
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Member Since: 10/25/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Quietly Trek
Whitney and Mariah have more vocal talent than her. Janet and Jennifer dance better than her. She's great, but she's not the best. Thanks for ignoring the part where I said Gaga is a better writer and more musically talented than her. Two important criteria to consider.
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Yes Withney nd Mariah are better vocalists, but do they even DANCE? BEYONCE DOES IT ALL. kay? Jennifer and Janet better dancers? like??!! oh and gaga's Writing is MEDIOCRE AT BEST, should i compare it with Lana's writing ability? and musically talented?? how??
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Member Since: 3/11/2011
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She is WHITE
Would Taylor Swift, Britney Spears, Katy Perry be that successful if they were black?!!!
Jayz works10x harder than Eminem to sell his stuff, while Eminem sits at home with no promotion because the white crowd identify with him more. Eminem doesn't even tour for god's sake.
Def Jam had to "whiten" Rihanna after her flop start in her career and look where she is now.
I can give you hundreds of examples where it shows being white is a huge advantage in the industry.
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