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Chart Listings: Taylor Swift STORMS onto Country Songs chart with 3 songs
Member Since: 10/4/2009
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Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY
!!!!!!!!!!!! +10000
radio audience can be categorised into different genres, sales cant be! i mean if a person usually listens to pop but buys a country song, its still a sale.
similarly if a person generally listens to pop, but listens a song on country then only its country audience should be included!
country songs are not meant to have pop appeal, so punishing a song coz it cant crossover!! they arenot meant to crossover! and if it does.. then it should be considered pop audience not country aydience! 
its all so clear in my head, i cant put it out right..
you are speaking my mind right now!
we can all pretend that airplay chart is the main chart still, but the billboard, labels, GP will consider the HCS to be the main chart.. it wont change ever!  |
i agree, this new chart is ******** 
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Member Since: 9/26/2011
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Originally posted by Manchs
Wait, it's all-genre audience?
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Yes ant this is biggest problem:
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Until now, only country stations contributed to the Hot Country Songs chart, or R&B/hip-hop stations to Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs; the same held true for Latin and rock. The new methodology, which will utilize the Hot 100's formula of incorporating airplay from more than 1,200 stations of all genres monitored by BDS, will reward crossover titles receiving airplay on a multitude of formats. With digital download sales and streaming data measuring popularity on the most inclusive scale possible, it is only just the radio portion of Billboard chart calculations that includes airplay from the entire spectrum of monitored formats.
Read more at http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/indus...xBU74MzWLUg.99
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Member Since: 12/12/2008
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Originally posted by dragonhunter
You don't seperate audience in digital sales and streaming but you do it fairly with airplay. These charts won't be pure genre charts until Billboard find a way to seperate digital sales and streaming.  |
since we can't make the chart 100% accurate, we should make it 99% accurate 
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Member Since: 8/2/2012
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
OMG. 
I didn't know Blown Away was that close to #1. Now I'm even more annoyed. 
And people are seriously asking why Carrie stans are mad? I can't. |
It's not just Carrie stans. Country fans on other music forums (like Pulse) are mad as well.
This new chart is only helping Taylor Swift and nobody else.
The joke is on Billboard and Taylor's label to be honest.
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Member Since: 8/24/2011
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Originally posted by teddies
sis, they're including all airplay. Consider WANEGBT, it's dead on country radio. Completely dead, on the verge of going recurrent, dropped off basically every rotation on the panel. But because it's smashing on Pop and it's somehow been classified a country song the new methodology dictates it's a #1 country hit, despite failing miserably on country radio.
sounds about right.
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Well, it's selling pretty well too. But this is completely ridiculous. Completely.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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it would be really cool wierd, if IKYWT debuts on #1 next week.. which it obviously will!
but i would really appreciate if no one comes for taylor becuz of this, she knows her song is pop(not saying anyone is..) .. its not her fault that billboard is doing this! 
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Member Since: 10/4/2009
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Originally posted by Ulrihs
Yes ant this is biggest problem:
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how can a SANE person agree on that  i can't 
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
OMG.
I didn't know Blown Away was that close to #1. Now I'm even more annoyed.
And people are seriously asking why Carrie stans are mad? I can't. |
It's a fact it was going to be number one, and that it was going to stay at one for at least two weeks. Now Carrie most likely won't be going number one unless she has a huge televised performance or gets her label to pull strings with Billboard.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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If I Knew You Were Trouble debuts at one, I'm gonna have Taylor to come out with a public statement saying how wrong it is and how she knows that song doesn't deserve to be #1.
If she thinks its cool and is proud of it, I'm just going to be livid with her.
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Member Since: 8/2/2012
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To Brad Paisley, Hunter Hayes, Jason Aldean, Miranda Lambert, Martina McBride, Reba, Lady Antebellum and Keith Urban...
I am sorry, but getting a #1 country song on Billboard is now impossible for you. XOX
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Mezik
(1) You seriously are having a hard time comprehending things so let me explain it again to you and you can read it slowly.
(2) Country Chart should reflect how the COUNTRY audience is taking it. It shouldn't base its ranking on activity that goes on outside of the country genre. By that logic Katy Perry can get a number one now on country just based off of pop airplay.  |
1) I know you're probably still upset, but there is no need to be rude.  I hear what you and others are saying loud and clear--that genres charts should reflect what songs are most popular within that genre's main audience.
2) I'm saying that I disagree. The country chart, and all the genre charts, should reflect which songs are most successful, even if the core audience does not like the song as much as the general public.
Even if you don't agree with me, you can't at least understand my point of view? 
I should've just  ...
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Mezik
If I Knew You Were Trouble debuts at one, I'm gonna have Taylor to come out with a public statement saying how wrong it is and how she knows that song doesn't deserve to be #1.
If she thinks its cool and is proud of it, I'm just going to be livid with her.
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its so unreasonable, of course she'll not! and thats not something to be mad at her about ..
if she does that, she'll get a backlash from country critics, pop critics, billboard and the GP! and it would be all because of something she dint do .. !!
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Member Since: 6/10/2008
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Originally posted by Bahjat
But Blown Away isn't Country either.
It isn't the greatest move they did but we'll have to deal with it.
I really hope Blown Away goes #1 though.  |
It is not for any of us to decide whether a song is country enough to get that #1. If Country radio (or whatever politics happen behind this genre) wants to put any song on their rotations, these songs should be recognised as the most popular country songs. It's difficult to determine whether the sales is country or not, hence not representable.
So I am disappointed. (Not because Taylor got that #1, don't get me wrong)
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
1) I know you're probably still upset, but there is no need to be rude. I hear what you and others are saying loud and clear--that genres charts should reflect what songs are most popular within that genre's main audience.
2) I'm saying that I disagree. The country chart , and all the genre charts, should reflect which songs are most successful, even if the core audience does not like the song as much as the general public.
Even if you don't agree with me, you can't at least understand my point of view? |
Your point of view is basically saying that a pure pop song with minor country influences should be allowed number one. Why have genre specific charts if they're all basically mini Hot 100s?
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Hit thread. 
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
Wait though. Is this new rule for the Pop chart as well?
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They didn't mess the top 40 radio chart. -_- such a relief, I would have been really mad if they did  lol
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by theREALslimSHADY
its so unreasonable, of course she'll not! and thats not something to be mad at her about ..
if she does that, she'll get a backlash from country critics, pop critics, billboard and the GP! and it would be all because of something she dint do .. !! |
It would be much more respectable, if she were to come out and say that she doesn't agree with the new charting rules.
I'm seriously having nightmares picturing I Knew You Were Trouble as a #1 COUNTRY single.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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It's not Taylor's fault it's billboards for making all these stupid changes and that goes for the R&B charts as well.
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Originally posted by Mezik
Your point of view is basically saying that a pure pop song with minor country influences should be allowed number one. Why have genre specific charts if they're all basically mini Hot 100s? |
They should be mini-Hot 100s. IMO, they should rank the most popular songs within that genre....not the most popular songs for the genre's main audience. 
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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I think Carrie got the bad end of this time.
Billboard screwed her over so much, Carrie deserves #1 right now. Not Taylor. Blown Away had to wait 17 weeks to get to #1, and now she's not even going to be able to have it.
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