And yes. Race will always be an issue. Even the "black" stars who have "made it" are light skinned because that is what is perceived as beautiful. I could go on but I'm on mobile. Basically music is a very Eurocentric industry, like the film industry and basically the world.
Very true. That's why Beyoncé and Rihanna use (have used) bleach. There is a lot of pressure in the industry to fit in. And when the majority is white, and you are dark skinned, you are going to feel left out. I don't judge Beyoncé and Rihanna for bleaching, there are a million other black people who would probably have done the same thing in their situation.
I think people are forgetting the period between 2001-2008/2009.. Urban trends/music dominated the mainstream.
I don't think race is an big issue anymore. It was worst in the 90's when rap/hip-hop artists and urban music got almost 0 play on Top 40 radio, they were basically BANNED. It had to be a HUGE crossover to smash over there, despite all of this, hip-hop/R&B music blew up in the 90's.
Top 40 radio is quite diverse, much than what people think here in ATRL. I'd say Rhythmic, Urban, Alternative, Adult Contemporary radio are way restricted.
Very true. That's why Beyoncé and Rihanna use (have used) bleach. There is a lot of pressure in the industry to fit in. And when the majority is white, and you are dark skinned, you are going to feel left out. I don't judge Beyoncé and Rihanna for bleaching, there are a million other black people who would probably have done the same thing in their situation.
I think people are forgetting the period between 2001-2008/2009.. Urban trends/music dominated the mainstream.
I don't think race is an big issue anymore. It was worst in the 90's when rap/hip-hop artists and urban music got almost 0 play on Top 40 radio, they were basically BANNED. It had to be a HUGE crossover to smash over there, despite all of this, hip-hop/R&B music blew up in the 90's.
Top 40 radio is quite diverse, much than what people think here in ATRL. I'd say Rhythmic, Urban, Alternative, Adult Contemporary radio are way restricted.
Rhythmic isn't that restricted musically, since it plays everything from dance songs to ballads, the only problem with that format is the way it discriminates against white people so much. Where Have You Been, Good Feeling, Wild Ones, We Found Love, etc. get to #1 on rhythmic, but only 1 white singer has got to #1 on rhythmic in the past 10 years... White people do dance songs just as good as those too.
And urban music was already dieing in the mainstream by 2005 (basically after Hollaback Girl smashed). But it is only really this year that it's truly going to disappear altogether, as 2012 is looking to be the first year since the 80's where no urban songs get to #1.
I think the urban community themselves are to blame though, as they're so extremely close-minded. There's white artists that are releasing urban-styled songs (well, certainly more urban than Super Bass and OMG). If urban radio supported those songs, and turned them into even bigger hits, then it would open the doors for urban songs by black artists to crossover to pop radio again.
Very true. That's why Beyoncé and Rihanna use (have used) bleach. There is a lot of pressure in the industry to fit in. And when the majority is white, and you are dark skinned, you are going to feel left out. I don't judge Beyoncé and Rihanna for bleaching, there are a million other black people who would probably have done the same thing in their situation.
You obviously do not know a thing about Black people or their skin
Asians have it the worst by far when it comes to western pop music.
This is true. It's probably got better in recent years, with Jay Sean and Far East Movement getting #1 hits, but still, that's extremely unrepresentative.
And this is why Rih always suffer first week. Black urban fans aint gonna rush out and buy her music because she makes "white music" but the white people aint gonna rush out and buy it either cause she's black.
This thread was a great idea but obviously, it degenerated into a tomb of self-pity.
Anyway, it goes both ways. The same way that white guy in Sweden will pick up the Eminem record and ignore Jasmine Sullivan's album , is the same way that black kid in NY will pick up the new Nas, and ignore Lady GaGa's lastest release.
Rhythmic isn't that restricted musically, since it plays everything from dance songs to ballads, the only problem with that format is the way it discriminates against white people so much. Where Have You Been, Good Feeling, Wild Ones, We Found Love, etc. get to #1 on rhythmic, but only 1 white singer has got to #1 on rhythmic in the past 10 years... White people do dance songs just as good as those too.
And urban music was already dieing in the mainstream by 2005 (basically after Hollaback Girl smashed). But it is only really this year that it's truly going to disappear altogether, as 2012 is looking to be the first year since the 80's where no urban songs get to #1.
I think the urban community themselves are to blame though, as they're so extremely close-minded. There's white artists that are releasing urban-styled songs (well, certainly more urban than Super Bass and OMG). If urban radio supported those songs, and turned them into even bigger hits, then it would open the doors for urban songs by black artists to crossover to pop radio again.
Yeah cause they cheap asses won't go out and buy albums. You can't win with free downloading and the bootleg man.
Have you heard Too Close? It's produced by Diplo (Look At Me Now, Run the World, Paper Planes, Climax).
We all know that if Usher sang Too Close, that urban radio would play it. It's more urban than OMG is, and that was a big urban hit.
In the UK, Alex Clare was actually nominated for a MOBO (Muisic of Black Origin) award, so at least people in the UK recognize what style of music he does.
Have you heard Too Close? It's produced by Diplo (Look At Me Now, Run the World, Paper Planes, Climax).
We all know that if Usher sang Too Close, that urban radio would play it. It's more urban than OMG is, and that was a big urban hit.
In the UK, Alex Clare was actually nominated for a MOBO (Muisic of Black Origin) award, so at least people in the UK recognize what style of music he does.
Urban trends/music dominated the mainstream.
I'd say Rhythmic, Urban, Alternative, Adult Contemporary radio are way restricted.
