What "racial mess"? This conversation is about skin color, not race.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
Well high notes r not everything and moreover as a singer Shreya and sunidhi r better than any of the singers u have listed if u will check their live performances u will find that they sounds Almost same as recording even in LIVE as per performer is considered Western singers slays
i mean indian music is totally different and they all r classical trained singer and indian classical music is very tough to learn just check out this performance this is very hard song to sing u can try by yourself and stop paying so much heed towards high notes
Like I said before, I've seen Shreya live and I said "one note" meaning she does the same type of song and vocal level all the time. it's great that that she sounds the same as the professional recording, but how is that notable when the recording isn't very challenging? Sunidhi is the better singer of the two. Also, reaching high notes is very important! Only good singers can do this and neither are better than Whitney Houston.
Of course Indian music is different from western music, but good singers are good singers no matter what they're singing.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
its not like only indians r obsessed with pale skin i mean check out Nicki or riri videos
Why do Indians always do this? Just because another person is guilty of the same thing doesn't make the person in question any less guilty. Deflection accomplishes nothing. People should accept problems and then try to solve them.
By the way, many black people in the west are preoccupied with their lighter people, but not to the degree Asians are. Rihanna is actually relatively light as she's heavily mixed like most black people here are and Nicki is part Indian so maybe that's why she loves wearing so much white powder on her face and her colored contact lenses.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
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i am not saying she is the best but clearly she is not less than any of the other western singer
She's better than most western singers, but not as good as Whitney, Christina and even Nicole.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
The town where I live in the UK is 78% asian, and I don't see anybody lightening their skin here lol. Maybe in the UK it's not such a big issue here.
Skin lightening doesn't actually work. If it did all Asians would be "fair and lovely."
Besides, it's illegal in the UK and most Asians there are westernized so their standards will be different. Still many western-born Asians will prefer fair skin and you'll notice the preference it when you spend time with them.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
well inverted was just over reacting he know NOTHING about india and asia things r changing here
Overreacting? I just gave real facts. Indians are always in denial and get defensive when talking about touchy issues like bigotry and poverty.
Here's Priyanka in a Pond's Skin Lightening commercial where her lover leaves her because she's too dark:
Guess what she does to her face in Part 4 in the commercial to get him back? So much for change.
Anyways, I'll be listening to this. Should be interesting even though I don't follow her.
Exactly.
Watch the Ponds "movie" ad (there are 5 parts). It's so awkward to watch especially considering the fact that she's actually dark herself and was shamelessly endorsing it back then. Self-hate much?
Nicole better singer than Shreya ? joke of the day
well she is awesome and better than most of your fave's and u will deal i don't care what do u think u don't even know indian music
and u should clear this bollywood music==indian music and PC==India
so stop generalizing the things u know NOTHING about us
i mean i am also an indian and i don't do such kind of stupid stuffs and i have seen so many americans doing the same i mean don't they use beauty products or make up?
HIGH NOTES HIGH NOTES HIGH NOTES clearly u have no knowledge about the MUSIC indian singers bring emotions in the song and Inverted i don't think u have listened a lot of hindi songs i am aware about both (english+hindi so i can judge it better)
u just read some stupid articles and believes it stop reacting like indians r the worst and don't deserve any respect
Watch the Ponds "movie" ad (there are 5 parts). It's so awkward to watch especially considering the fact that she's actually dark herself and was shamelessly endorsing it back then. Self-hate much?
Middle of Selena is just being overly defensive. I lived in India for two years (and am currently on break there right now) and what you've said is pretty much spot on. Of course not all Indians desperately want to lighten their skin tone, I think that's fairly obvious. But there is a high demand - I can turn on my television right now and prove it.
I wouldn't know whether Priyanka actually uses any of these products because the celebs here endorse everything from vests to flip-flops, but yeah.
watch that live videos again u will realize that she can also go for that high notes+can bring emotion+can hold her breath and moreover she is just 28 i don't think she needs your sign or your approval so take a seat sis
Actress Priyanka Chopra who's busy juggling her film promotions with the launch of her first single In My City is said to be thrilled with the excitement her fans are already showing.
Talking about her music, the actor had earlier said that she would want it to have Indian roots with a global appeal.
“I don't want my music to be region specific, but have a global feel so that anyone listening to it across the world can relate to it just as easily, much like Shakira’s music. It is very strongly connected to the roots but has a strong global flavour,” she'd said.
Sources close to the star maintain that the song featuring will.i.am will indeed be launched at the National Football League kickoff.
“The song’s video specially shot for the NFL will be the music bed for the intro to Thursday Night Kickoff of NFL on September 13. Priyanka and will are both expected to feature in this video,” says the source.
The actor whose commitments to Barfi! are keeping her from being in the US for the launch, however plans to celebrate it here.
“It’s not the launch, but around four hours ahead of the actual launch, she is planning to celebrate the song’s release. She has made a special request to NFL bosses to show the song in India a few hours earlier, not as a launch, but as a token ceremony, to showcase it here as an Indian artiste," the source adds.
Middle of Selena is just being overly defensive. I lived in India for two years (and am currently on break there right now) and what you've said is pretty much spot on. Of course not all Indians desperately want to lighten their skin tone, I think that's fairly obvious. But there is a high demand - I can turn on my television right now and prove it.
I wouldn't know whether Priyanka actually uses any of these products because the celebs here endorse everything from vests to flip-flops, but yeah.
i am not denying yeah most of the indians r obsessed with pale skin but then generalizing for everybody is wrong i mean i know their r so many flaws but then things r changing here people r accepting inter religion marriages ,gay relationships etc i agree tho that a lot work is still needed to make india a proper country but just criticizing it everytime is just immature
and i have been following inverted and i personally feel that he hate india and love to shade us
Nicole better singer than Shreya ? joke of the day
You're embarrassing yourself.
Nicole is an excellent singer and is one of the few who can pull off that ending. Shreya cannot do that.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
well she is awesome and better than most of your fave's and u will deal i don't care what do u think u don't even know indian music
I like Shreya (there's a reason I went to see her) and I know enough about Hindi music to comment. And if you don't care what I think, why are you responding so emotionally? Pressed much?
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
and u should clear this bollywood music==indian music and PC==India
Where did I ever say that Bollywood and Priyanka Chopra are not Indian? And for the record, most Hindi movie songs are heavily influenced by foreign music, especially nowadays. For an example, "Zara Zara Touch Me" is a copy of a Chinese song.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
so stop generalizing the things u know NOTHING about us
I'm not generalizing as I never said every single Indian is like this, but the things I said are true. Stop being so defensive.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
i mean i am also an indian and i don't do such kind of stupid stuffs and i have seen so many americans doing the same i mean don't they use beauty products or make up?
Of course you don't. Not all Indians are ignorant and we all know that so there's no reason to defensive. What I said were just facts and critical of ignorant people (from any country). And yes, Americans do use beauty products and makeup, but they don't try to alter to skin color significantly. Skin color treatments are dangerous and illegal in many western countries.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
HIGH NOTES HIGH NOTES HIGH NOTES clearly u have no knowledge about the MUSIC indian singers bring emotions in the song and Inverted i don't think u have listened a lot of hindi songs i am aware about both (english+hindi so i can judge it better)
u just read some stupid articles and believes it stop reacting like indians r the worst and don't deserve any respect
High notes are important and the fact that you're denying this is evidence of your lack of knowledge when it comes to music. If a singer isn't versatile, how can she be considered a talented singer? Emotion is important, but doesn't contribute to any technical value. And yes, I have listened to plenty of Hindi songs so stop trying to undermine me.
No, I learn from experience and knowledge. I have never said Indians are the worst or that they don't deserve respect, but everyone deserves TRUTH. Stop being defensive and emotional. It's childish behavior and completely pathetic.
Middle of Selena is just being overly defensive. I lived in India for two years (and am currently on break there right now) and what you've said is pretty much spot on. Of course not all Indians desperately want to lighten their skin tone, I think that's fairly obvious. But there is a high demand - I can turn on my television right now and prove it.
I wouldn't know whether Priyanka actually uses any of these products because the celebs here endorse everything from vests to flip-flops, but yeah.
Exactly. No one here is saying all Indians are like this, but it's a reality that exists and should not be denied, but unfortunately many Indians have the same attitude that Middle of Selena has. And I'm not talking out of my ass from watching Youtube videos. I've lived in Asia including India (Delhi and Jaipur), Singapore and Hong Kong.
I doubt she uses it, but the fact that she endorsed is what really bothers me. We were talking about Priyanka last week when you saw me avatar of her in the Shayne Ward thread and I said something to you about how if Indians don't support her, no one will. Likewise, if a dark woman isn't supportive of her type of color, why would anyone else? Not everyone is open-minded and goes out of their way to support "minorities" like I do.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
i am not denying yeah most of the indians r obsessed with pale skin but then generalizing for everybody is wrong i mean i know their r so many flaws but then things r changing here people r accepting inter religion marriages ,gay relationships etc i agree tho that a lot work is still needed to make india a proper country but just criticizing it everytime is just immature
and i have been following inverted and i personally feel that he hate india and love to shade us
If anyone is immature between us, it's you. Being overly defensive is a clear sign of immaturity especially when everything I've said is true. I hate India? Is that why I've made most of the posts in this thread and most of the ones supporting Priyanka on ATRL? I love shading Indians? Why? Because I posted pics of Mary Kom to educate people who don't realize that Indians can look like her? Just, just stop.
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Originally posted by Middle of Selena
well i didn't quote anybody
don't wanna break your heart wanna give your heart a break
so stay mad
Look at your posts in this thread and come tell me who's the mad one.